joe bailey
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The bid's backers are an overseas sports consortium who are coming to Australia to meet FFA officials next month.
You could be on the money. So what's that mean for the Mariners?
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Mulvey's gotta...go?
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The bid's backers are an overseas sports consortium who are coming to Australia to meet FFA officials next month.
You could be on the money. So what's that mean for the Mariners?
pjennings
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The Canberra bid at the time said it was unrelated to any other existing club - but this is a quote from a story at the time:-
"Canberra would have to cover its costs until the next broadcast deal in 2022 which would be around $13 million annually.
Canberra want to win a licence in their own right but something undeniably working in their favour is the looming demise of the Wellington Phoenix.
To extend their licence past next season Wellington have been set metrics around crowds and television numbers which they're almost no chance of hitting.
In a best case scenario Canberra would form a 13-team competition in the 2020-21 season but the reality is if they're successful they'll likely be replacing the Phoenix."
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer...to-join-a-league-in-2020-20181221-p50np1.html
To me that opens up a possibility of a 12 team comp from 2020-21 and a subsequent 2nd Brisbane and Dandenong area soon after.
Capn Gus Bloodbeard
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I don't buy it..the NIX are still more logical for Canberra
Ancient Mariner
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I do not see the Nux getting the chop being related to a new licence unless it is important to balance the comp. which no one is worrying about next year.
The Nux may get the chop, but if they do their licence becomes null and void.
A new club replacing the Nux pays the HAL the fee ($10m-$20) to join.
I cannot see licences becoming transferable.
The Nux may get the chop, but if they do their licence becomes null and void.
A new club replacing the Nux pays the HAL the fee ($10m-$20) to join.
I cannot see licences becoming transferable.
I don’t think many of the conspiracy theories are that far fetched but the only thing that gives me any peace of mind is what a Pandora’s box it would be to allow Charlesworth to sell just the license or sell and relocate. If they let him cash out to Canberra on his terms what happens when the next cashed up Southern Expansion or other consortium hits up the nix or jets or say roar if a second south qld team comes in?
The whole thing becomes a mess very quickly and possibly an expensive legal mess if one club is allowed to do it and another isn’t when the owner gets bored or their worth takes a hit.
The whole thing becomes a mess very quickly and possibly an expensive legal mess if one club is allowed to do it and another isn’t when the owner gets bored or their worth takes a hit.
joe bailey
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sorry so you mean Mariners licence will be sold to canberra? and there will be no more CCM?
greenlig
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I think that's the inference, yeah. Entertaining that thought is tough
pjennings
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But what happens after that.
Sacking the coach may help people feel good for a few weeks but as @FFC Mariner points out on another thread it just leads to another rinse and repeat. Our problems are much deeper than the coach
We have bigger problems and a growing HAL and an independent HAL means they have to be addressed soon as a matter of urgency. A coach change is small fry. I do see licenses as being transferable under an independent HAL
Charlesworth has decisions to make around an independent HAL
If Charlesworth wants to sell the license with an independent HAL and with the bidding process having increased he will have a chance to recoup some of his losses.
If he wants to stay an independent HAL should, by all accounts, offer a better investor environment. He may be able to attract other investors,like Singo/Denny/Tagliaferro/Djamirze/ Von Schmauder
Finally he may want to keep control. This makes no sense if he keeps devaluing his own brand.
Investment time is now - whether it is by Charlesworth or others can be debated. Without it the Mariners will be a distant memory that we will bore our grand kids about when we regale the tales of past glories.
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joe bailey
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Makes a bit of sense yiu know. All these ex ais/Canberra coaches who've come into mariners now, mind you, they haven't coached for 5 years I believe! Bringing with then their archaic, prehistoric ways!! I'm devo.I think that's the inference, yeah. Entertaining that thought is tough
Forum Phoenix
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Not to mention the incredible disruption and uproar that would follow.
I’m not happy with my club at all right now, but I’ll fight tooth and nail for it if they tried to sell us off.
Also it’s not good for the league to lose us an cannibalise it’s own. Much better to expand and grow. Which is why the Product has grown so stale and is a much bigger concern than CCM’s terrible on field performances.
I dont see us going anywhere. But we desperately need to improve on the park before we lose the rest of our core membership,
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shipwreck
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Does it annoy anyone else that Mulvey doesn't even know how to pronounce Hiariej's name?
I mean seriously, that's got to be interpreted as a slap in the face to the man, as well as subtle digs like "he is in the right frame of mind... Now"
Rowdy
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Haha, texted this response to a mate of mine who sent me the link to that interview:
Ass-hat still cant pronounce his fcuking name properly !!
- This would be my first question to him:
" Mike.... to anyone on the outside looking in at the Mariner's, the fact that you as the Coach - repeatedly mis-pronounce your best players name correctly, perhaps says a lot more about the fact that your not playing him .... despite him telling people on the streets of Gosford that he's fit & ready to play.
- what's your excuse for failing to pronounce his name properly ?? "
- & for failing to play him ??
Ancient Mariner
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Oh bugger, I thought Tommy Herage was a new player we signed in the window.
Rowdy
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The Bio of that NBN journo that interviewed him states she has '15 years of journalism experience'.
She sounded like a Year10 kid on work experience, mish-mashing her questions, enabling Mulvey to weave around the important issues she half-arsedly posed to him.
She asked a few of the Boys from Bay16 for an interview but they declined. So much for the hard-hitting interview she promised them.
She sounded like a Year10 kid on work experience, mish-mashing her questions, enabling Mulvey to weave around the important issues she half-arsedly posed to him.
She asked a few of the Boys from Bay16 for an interview but they declined. So much for the hard-hitting interview she promised them.
It was utterly uninspiring without her going any harder on him. I suggest if it was hard hitting at all he would have walked.
Yeah that didn’t go unnoticed. If he told Mcbreen he’s fit and ready to go then someone is telling us some stories.
Mentioning Oar and Hiariej off the bench isn’t the line up most of us we’re hoping for with him coming back in.
Cricko_086
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Did we sign a new player. Tom hirage? That’s quite bad!
Blackadder
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The Russians are finally coming?
Jan is the line in the sand for MM. He really has that to turn things round i think, if not then can't see him surviving. Much will depend on who comes in and goes in Jan. A couple of wins and it all changes again. What worries me most is morale, virtually half the squad has been dropped completely at least once and some not picked at all. I'm still not sure if Gameiro is genuinely injured or there is something else going on. I really expected him to be back by now.
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