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Turbulence (then calm sailing, then turbulence) thread.
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A couple of questions for me out of that...
The Melbourne thing seems a bit far fetched? Surely if a deal can't be made to sell to an existing director, why are they more willing to sell to someone from Melbourne who will move the club?
If the players do strike, it will not only be a massive "up yours" to the CCM management, but the fans who have paid their memberships for 8 seasons, travelled thousands of km's and invested a lot of their own time supporting the team.
If it does get to the stage of players striking, we need names and details of how and why it got to that point.
It seems to me like there are investors lined up to ensure the future of the club (which includes paying the most important assets, THE PLAYERS) but someone is standing in the way.
Who, and why?
The Melbourne thing seems a bit far fetched? Surely if a deal can't be made to sell to an existing director, why are they more willing to sell to someone from Melbourne who will move the club?
If the players do strike, it will not only be a massive "up yours" to the CCM management, but the fans who have paid their memberships for 8 seasons, travelled thousands of km's and invested a lot of their own time supporting the team.
If it does get to the stage of players striking, we need names and details of how and why it got to that point.
It seems to me like there are investors lined up to ensure the future of the club (which includes paying the most important assets, THE PLAYERS) but someone is standing in the way.
Who, and why?
bikinigirl
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. i don't know if anyone would be 'more willing' to sell to melbourne ... but having details to all the options is the only way to 'negotiate'
. for something that seemed so simple with a simple (and apparently available) solution a couple of days ago ... it has certainly blown out of all proportion rather quickly - to become a much bigger issue
. considering this isn't the first time we have been through this ... the only thing we need now is arnie to declare he doesn't understand why the team are not better supported
Your point is?
Gratis
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the Geelong move won't happen, confident of that. the strike talk, like the open media attention is, I think, simply a way of forcing a resolution by putting pressure on (i suspect) Gorman to act rather than it going on for an eternity in the background as it has in the past. i'm also doubting it'll come to a strike, and hoping even more
FFC Mariner
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I agree with Adz, while I support the players right to strike over unpaid wages, the real blame is not on them.
Its on the person whos greed and avarice to screw money out of this has brought us to this point.
And the FFA for allowing such conflicts to exist in the 1st place. Lets not forget, he is an employee of theirs!
Its on the person whos greed and avarice to screw money out of this has brought us to this point.
And the FFA for allowing such conflicts to exist in the 1st place. Lets not forget, he is an employee of theirs!
nebakke
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I think that's a bit harsh on the players... Essentially that argument says that they should be willing to work for free, because we've paid out membership fees to the club... The club which in turn hasn't paid the players. The articles today suggest that several of the players are getting into trouble financially because of the non-payment... Can't really blame them for getting to a point where their families and themselves become the primary focal point I think.
Would you keep working if your employer stopped paying you?
However, I couldn't agree more with the second part of your post. If it gets that bad (God forbid) some transparency is needed, we'll need to understand why/how it was allowed to get that out of hand.
The fact that they haven't all packed up and left during the last couple of seasons, in particular, in-and-of-itself is a huge statement about the culture and personal relationships in the club... I doubt it that a lot of clubs in this situation would have any of their players left after what they've seen financially in the last couple of years.
If it reaches the point of a strike though, it's starting to feel like a really risky situation though... On the upside, I too think it's more of a pressure technique than anything else, otherwise, surely they would have announce the strike to be sooner...
Not at all, if the players are forced into that position then they should do what they need to do. I'm just saying that more people are affected by strike action than CCM Management.
midfielder
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Given PT has publicly said he will sell and stand aside... Charlesworth wants to buy ... the list shortens ... maybe its our man in Sheffield ... maybe someone closer to home ....
The Russian offer cannot be proved, nor can other deals referred to, unless we sight the offers however FFA have indicated in the pass and now they are happy with the process.... the Charleworth offer is there.... hopefully something will break sooner or latter...
Ancient Mariner
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style_cafe
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I love these reports from un-named sources.The players? What a bloody low act by The AUSTRALIAN.
Margaret Thatcher said "If you can`t say names then it didn`t really happen".
If the Australian is not willing to name which players have said what then they can F**k off & leave our Mariner`s alone.
Margaret Thatcher said "If you can`t say names then it didn`t really happen".
If the Australian is not willing to name which players have said what then they can F**k off & leave our Mariner`s alone.
Capn Gus Bloodbeard
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Really good opinion piece
http://www.fromthestandsal.com/2013/03/20/the-mariners-must-survive/
I love this guy's attitude, and it's one we should all share. Basically, it doesn't matter if we support CCM, Jets, SFC, Victory, whoever - at the end of the day, we're all supporting Aussie football. Seems like he'd be the sort of guy that would think that if you can't have a beer with opposition supporters before/after the match, then something's wrong...
http://www.fromthestandsal.com/2013/03/20/the-mariners-must-survive/
I love this guy's attitude, and it's one we should all share. Basically, it doesn't matter if we support CCM, Jets, SFC, Victory, whoever - at the end of the day, we're all supporting Aussie football. Seems like he'd be the sort of guy that would think that if you can't have a beer with opposition supporters before/after the match, then something's wrong...
http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/news/1144882/Melboure-group-to-take-over-Mariners
South Melbourne Mariners?
South Melbourne Mariners?
iEatHands
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