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To the pitch invaders......

tyson

Well-Known Member
only too or three people in that photo look rowdy. and nearly all of those people are behind the fence anyway.

the pic in the paper i saw had some comment like 'rowdy fans on the pitch after the match' or something... but its just a bunch of kids with smiles on their faces holding up their scarves. lol

the thing that annoys me is that its like 'FANTASTIC FC' 'Kosmina never lost hope' 'Sydney battled their way to a courageous 5-4 victory to put them back in the top 4'

Clearly the mariners playing a man down for 70 minutes and getting all of those injuries and holding off an in-form team was far more courageous than scoring scrappy goals and a penalty at the death.
 

brett

Well-Known Member
The 'invasion': It was to run towards our players to applaud them. It was a few idiots and enthusiastic youngsters who didn't know better and went with safety in numbers. Overall it was harmless, and was made worse by the security/policing being too weak and then quickly too strong from my vantage point at the back of 16 (and my worsening eye-sight).

But everyone on the pitch still needs to realise that they are an idiot. No arguments.

After the game: jubal1, as we know, every club has idiot supporters. Both the Marinators and the Cove have a high % of people who 'get it' and will help break up problems rather than start them. You need to make sure it stays that way in your group. Also, you need to recognise that Sydney fans are naturally arrogant and big gloaters when they win, and that people won't just swallow this as you shove it in their faces, especially when it was many things before Sydney FC's performance that caused the result.

Security and police at ALL venues need to recognise the value of squashing the bogan instigators from the home team early as a way of keeping the massive away crew a notch or three calmer.

Also, any of the work done by moving the away fans to other end is undone when they are allowed to march through the area outside CCLC when it's chockers with people. After a game as dramatic as that emotions were running high for everyone and unfortunately incidents are inevitable. They should be kept inside the ground until the crowd is cleared and then escorted all the way to the station.
 

FFC Mariner

Well-Known Member
A half sensible police force (ie not Gosford) would keep away supporters behind until Dane Drive is clear and either:-

1) Guide round the back of CCLC towards the station

2) Guide them up Dane Drive with reasonable escort

The main thing is to let the crowd clear.

A few security guards at the front of the upper tier in front of the away fans would be good. I understand there was a fair amount of stuff being chucked at the Cove from above and that is not on.

We have to put up with it at EAS and it only antagonises.

True, there was a core of SFC fans intent of causing trouble (parading around near bay 16 etc etc) but a complete lack of security at the back of the bay doesnt help much
 

midfielder

Well-Known Member
Greenpoleffc said:
A half sensible police force (ie not Gosford) would keep away supporters behind until Dane Drive is clear and either:-

1) Guide round the back of CCLC towards the station

2) Guide them up Dane Drive with reasonable escort

The main thing is to let the crowd clear.

A few security guards at the front of the upper tier in front of the away fans would be good. I understand there was a fair amount of stuff being chucked at the Cove from above and that is not on.

We have to put up with it at EAS and it only antagonises.

True, there was a core of SFC fans intent of causing trouble (parading around near bay 16 etc etc) but a complete lack of security at the back of the bay doesnt help much

In what other sport in Australia do they have to do that. Press would have a field day.
 

midfielder

Well-Known Member
We was luckily the media was asleep, or at least the sky is falling types all off on hols I guess. We will not get this break again.

Big thank you to Auburn Marinator and his key helpers who a number of people told me did a lot to keep things under control. So guys well done and a big thank you again.

I have noticed in Hal 3, a little bit of extra bite from some fans of most clubs. Given the size of Sydney & Melbourne supporter groups then its a numbers game that they will have more dickheads.  I saw this happen as well at the Northern Spirit matches as time went on Spirit Point (a supporter group not unlike the cove) splintered into random groups and descended from being an asset to in many ways for family type supporters to a liability.

No one can control were people sit and by simply sitting behind the goals and wearing Mariners colours the untrained will call them Marinators, or Cove in Sydney.

I have no idea how to stop dickhead behavior, except were known to advise authorities first. But my gut feeling is, a united approach by supporter groups is needed, and maybe a forum could be set up with just the key members of the supporters getting together to determine a common approach. Also the forum address should be sent to FFA  and the new body set up to look at crowd behavior.

As an aside from bay 25 IMO the security did fairly well to stop a big pitch invasion and there were no many of the them (BTW thats not the guys who were there fault). They let the kiddies kick and hit advertising signs to blow off there steam it looked for a while as support for the local team and nothing more until the man in black run on. 

My two cents worth is anybody that knows any of the guys on Saturday night should contact the club with names for bans to be applied.

Again thanks to Auburn for your calm head and your after midnight post.
 

rosko

Well-Known Member
The Sydney and Melbourne supporters will always have a problem with the large numbers providing an equally larger proportion of idiots... A couple of the guys I work with are Cove Dwellers and say that there are fights within the Cove nearly every home game... There will always be trouble makers, the problem is weeding them out... 
 

BAD BULLZ

Well-Known Member
Isnt the "rooney look a like" the guy who mooned security got tackeled then some other clown attacked the security guy which set the violent part off tell me got artrested?

:naughty:Dont blame "myspace theres nuthing wrong with it :naughty:
 
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curious

Guest
midfielder said:
Greenpoleffc said:
A half sensible police force (ie not Gosford) would keep away supporters behind until Dane Drive is clear and either:-

1) Guide round the back of CCLC towards the station

2) Guide them up Dane Drive with reasonable escort

The main thing is to let the crowd clear.

A few security guards at the front of the upper tier in front of the away fans would be good. I understand there was a fair amount of stuff being chucked at the Cove from above and that is not on.

We have to put up with it at EAS and it only antagonises.

True, there was a core of SFC fans intent of causing trouble (parading around near bay 16 etc etc) but a complete lack of security at the back of the bay doesnt help much

In what other sport in Australia do they have to do that. Press would have a field day.
No other sport, however, no other sport has large organised supporter groups. No other sport has large supporter groups that organise piss ups before the game. No other sport has an organised march to the stadium by large supporter groups, many of them effected by grog after the pre game pissup.
No other sport has large organised supporter groups, effected by grog, leaving or marching from the ground together, intent on copying green street hools ( mummy hired the movie for the teeny boppers) & won't be happy till they bring the worst of european football to Australia.

yes midfielder, no other sport has to do that, but if you want European  style support in an Australian culture, that's the way it's headed, like it or not.  Supporters will be policed marching to the ground, policed in the ground & policed leaving the ground.

The games will be watched from behind high fencing, the supporters barricaded away from each other & police will be everywhere.
But that's fine eh. We get to pretend we are European football fans.

Me?  I'll be a boring shit & sit in the stands & enjoy the game with like minded company. Just like I do at other sports.
 

radar

Well-Known Member
A big problem is that people get swept up in the whole "cameraderie" thing of football supporters groups. Simple-minded kids who will ride the wave because they don't know (or don't care) if it's the right thing to do or not.

If their only impression of football fandom is what they see or hear about from Europe (and mainly negative if it makes the press), then that's the kind of attitude they're going to bring with them to the games. Add that to IRSA (IRRESPONSIBLE service of alcohol) and that's when the trouble starts.
 

Sharpy

New Member
I cant believe you lot are throwing all the blame on sydney fans.Most of you didnt actually see anything, your just going off what someone else has said.

Melbourne comments.I dont even know what your smoking to think that we are the instigators when it came to the 10th of november.Fact is you wernt there, it is plain to see you dont know what your on about because BEING there, not just guessing what happened, i can tell right away your having a guess at events.

Saturday was a brilliant game, brilliant.Its a shame that most of you feel robbed.If the shoe was on the other foot, i would feel the same.I would rather see you lot throwing around Breeze-Lowy match fixing comments(*o please*), than saying that you didnt care.Fact is your passionate and i love that.You dont like to see your team loose and thats not a bad thing.

Events post game, it does help if you were there.If you wernt there, please dont comment, its just imbarressing reading your analysis.After the game we did hold back for as long as we could before security pushed us out the gates.We wanted to celebrate with the players!We didnt want to leave!There are many comments about us looking for trouble, these are just silly.Look at your own backyard.For example the bloke with the bandana(i think it was) on his head.I seen him pushing away mariners fans coming up to us yelling comments.It was actions like this that could have diverted events going sour.We just won a game we didnt expect to win, in dramatic fashion, we want to celebrate!The way the train times were running we needed to leave right away to make the train, we needed to walk to the station.Simple.We couldnt hang around for an extra 20 minutes.Us going wild+your lot feeling gutted=confrontation.

In conclusion i think some comments on here are not correct.Games between us before have not been wild, and i cant see it going down that path.I think everyone needs to have a breath and step back.Both sides were at fault because of emotions.You cant plan for a game like saturdays.
 

FFC Mariner

Well-Known Member
Sorry Sharpy, a significant number of SFC fans went there to behave like absolute tools and be as violent and antagonistic as they could.

Do you guys ever wonder why people react to you lot the way they do??
 

benw

Active Member
Greenpoleffc said:
Sorry Sharpy, a significant number of SFC fans went there to behave like absolute tools and be as violent and antagonistic as they could.

Do you guys ever wonder why people react to you lot the way they do??

Oh dear!

While all the CCM fans were standing around, helping old ladies cross Dane Drive, the evil bloodsucking Cove came running up the street, with Molotov cocktails in one hand, knives in the other, knocking down said old ladies and throwing punches at women and children in Mariners gear.

I was in the middle of it all - alongside Auburn Mariner - keeping things under control. Your fans are at least as guilty of antagonism as any Sydney fans. FFS, even after we calmed it down there were 4 spotty teenage Mariners fans tailing the Cove and trying to draw me into a fight (while that would have been a lot of fun, I had to decline considering the CCTV cameras and police everywhere). Then there was the CCM fan in black polo (a different one to the Rooney-look-alike pitch invader) taken away by the police for throwing a few punches. A couple of CCM fans who ran into our group swinging punches. The guys banging on the Cove drum trying to start a fight.

This shit is pretty standard from your fellow "angels"

Last season we had a young Covite king-hit by a toothless freak in a Mariners shirt. Also a father and son combo came into the Cove and started a fight (classy). There's plenty more that I could bring up - all instigated by your fans. Have a long hard look in your own backyard before you go hanging shit on other supporters.

Do you ever wonder why we react to your lot the way we do?
 

Troy

Member
serious14 said:
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"Whadda mean we can't root our sisters"
 

Ex-Marinator

New Member
benw said:
Greenpoleffc said:
Sorry Sharpy, a significant number of SFC fans went there to behave like absolute tools and be as violent and antagonistic as they could.

Do you guys ever wonder why people react to you lot the way they do??

Oh dear!

While all the CCM fans were standing around, helping old ladies cross Dane Drive, the evil bloodsucking Cove came running up the street, with Molotov cocktails in one hand, knives in the other, knocking down said old ladies and throwing punches at women and children in Mariners gear.

I was in the middle of it all - alongside Auburn Mariner - keeping things under control. Your fans are at least as guilty of antagonism as any Sydney fans. FFS, even after we calmed it down there were 4 spotty teenage Mariners fans tailing the Cove and trying to draw me into a fight (while that would have been a lot of fun, I had to decline considering the CCTV cameras and police everywhere). Then there was the CCM fan in black polo (a different one to the Rooney-look-alike pitch invader) taken away by the police for throwing a few punches. A couple of CCM fans who ran into our group swinging punches. The guys banging on the Cove drum trying to start a fight.

This shit is pretty standard from your fellow "angels"

Last season we had a young Covite king-hit by a toothless freak in a Mariners shirt. Also a father and son combo came into the Cove and started a fight (classy). There's plenty more that I could bring up - all instigated by your fans. Have a long hard look in your own backyard before you go hanging shit on other supporters.

Do you ever wonder why we react to your lot the way we do?
Now now, all of the Marinators are angels! :(

Don't know what you're going on about. The team I used to support was a family club and never used to have people kicked out even before the game (as what happened in the Round 15 game last year).

I'm absolutely disgusted with the actions of Mariners supporters on Saturday night. Something Sydney fans would not do, nor would even think about doing, and thus is another reason why I am glad I am now calling Sydney FC my team.
 

Andy

Well-Known Member
Ex-Marinator said:
benw said:
Greenpoleffc said:
Sorry Sharpy, a significant number of SFC fans went there to behave like absolute tools and be as violent and antagonistic as they could.

Do you guys ever wonder why people react to you lot the way they do??

Oh dear!

While all the CCM fans were standing around, helping old ladies cross Dane Drive, the evil bloodsucking Cove came running up the street, with Molotov cocktails in one hand, knives in the other, knocking down said old ladies and throwing punches at women and children in Mariners gear.

I was in the middle of it all - alongside Auburn Mariner - keeping things under control. Your fans are at least as guilty of antagonism as any Sydney fans. FFS, even after we calmed it down there were 4 spotty teenage Mariners fans tailing the Cove and trying to draw me into a fight (while that would have been a lot of fun, I had to decline considering the CCTV cameras and police everywhere). Then there was the CCM fan in black polo (a different one to the Rooney-look-alike pitch invader) taken away by the police for throwing a few punches. A couple of CCM fans who ran into our group swinging punches. The guys banging on the Cove drum trying to start a fight.

This shit is pretty standard from your fellow "angels"

Last season we had a young Covite king-hit by a toothless freak in a Mariners shirt. Also a father and son combo came into the Cove and started a fight (classy). There's plenty more that I could bring up - all instigated by your fans. Have a long hard look in your own backyard before you go hanging shit on other supporters.

Do you ever wonder why we react to your lot the way we do?
Now now, all of the Marinators are angels! :(

Don't know what you're going on about. The team I used to support was a family club and never used to have people kicked out even before the game (as what happened in the Round 15 game last year).

I'm absolutely disgusted with the actions of Mariners supporters on Saturday night. Something Sydney fans would not do, nor would even think about doing, and thus is another reason why I am glad I am now calling Sydney FC my team.

Are these the same Sydney fans that threw bottles at officials earlier this season?

If that's all it takes for you to stop supporting this club then you can f*ck off you fickle c*nt. The club are better off without people like you and you should fit in well with the rest of the Fc fans.
 
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curious

Guest
Your chains are being pulled fellas, & your falling for it hook line & sinker.

A sfc fan registers as "Ex-Marinator" to laugh his panties off at all the bites he gets from the shit stirring & is playing everyone for fools. 
 

Horza

Active Member
Whaddaya talking about? I'm sure Ex-Marinator is totally legit and no more a trolling sockpuppet than SydGirl.

note all: If you're going to pretend to be an ex-fan, it's usually better to build up a profile first. Barring that, go all out topgun-jimmy styles rather than this 'Dear Sirs, I am a longtime Moosetown FC fan but I have to admit that I was offended beyond words at their uncouth mannerisms and cocky stride as they walked onto the pitch last night...' guff
 

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