Should Monty Be Signed for Another Season?

[Big Al]

Let's move any McGing talk to squad thread

He doesn't deserve to be on the same page as Monty little own the save the club from being stupid with Monty thread

 

[true believer]

Ok who?
It won't be Sydney, either Melbourne club or roar. So that leaves wellington, perth or wanderers.
Id suggest both wanderers and perth wouldn't take him so wellington?

At melbourne brouxson does montys job.
Monty is better than their captain
At drive by park demos is a good player .but curtainly monty is equal.
Donty know who is dm for the bling but cheese guy could play dm for them and look good. At perth grifhs is a star but suffers from white line fevour.
Issas at the reds has more talent but not close to his mongrol.
Monty is the man

 

[Wombat]

Ok.

So 35 people voted and not a single one thought that Monty should not be resigned. Okon and Shaun.....dont f**k this up.

 

[greenlig]

Monty being drilled after the game tonight RE contract: http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/video/921179203899/Post-Match-Nick-Montgomery

 

[bikinigirl]

We've treated some of our players very poorly before - McGlinchey? Makes it hard to get on the club's side when a player wants to do the same and back out of their contract (or just leave). Club loyalty goes both ways.

. for me, the McGlinchey loan deal was a major turning point for the Club, my recollection:

• the Club accepted a nominal loan fee
• presumably removing Mikey's salary from the books
• hoping for a buyout and big tranfer fee
• when Flores was injured (and before Mikey had left) the loan wasn't revoked - despite us not having a suitable alternative/replacement
• when the loan didn't work out - there didn't seem to be much interest in having the player back (or their welfare)
• then came the attempted re-negotiation of the contract

. as i'm sure Timmah will point out ... it is not as simple as that ... but to me, there was intent shown. that is one thing for fans, but a completely different thing for players ... especially in a small, isolated and close-knit football community as Australia

. we have since seen an eagerness for players to move away, a reluctance for 'old boys' to return ... and i think a difficulty in signing recognised players that we didn't experience in the past

. loyalty is indeed a two-way street ... i think Monty has done more than can be expected on his part

 

[FFC Mariner]

The story is far more inept and amateur than that

 

[Timmah]

. for me, the McGlinchey loan deal was a major turning point for the Club, my recollection:

• the Club accepted a nominal loan fee
• presumably removing Mikey's salary from the books
• hoping for a buyout and big tranfer fee
• when Flores was injured (and before Mikey had left) the loan wasn't revoked - despite us not having a suitable alternative/replacement
• when the loan didn't work out - there didn't seem to be much interest in having the player back (or their welfare)
• then came the attempted re-negotiation of the contract

. as i'm sure Timmah will point out ... it is not as simple as that ... but to me, there was intent shown. that is one thing for fans, but a completely different thing for players ... especially in a small, isolated and close-knit football community as Australia

. we have since seen an eagerness for players to move away, a reluctance for 'old boys' to return ... and i think a difficulty in signing recognised players that we didn't experience in the past

. loyalty is indeed a two-way street ... i think Monty has done more than can be expected on his part

My understanding was as others have posted with regards to Wee Mac - the entity that comprises the club changed hands and his loan deal was completed in the previous club name/trading entity whatever you'd call it?

The above may well have formed part of the scenario (I don't know any better) but the key was around the changeover of contracts etc as far I understand.

 

[nebakke]

Yeah - the talk was that he leveraged what should have been an administrational exercise, when the club changed name, top claim that he no longer had a contact with an A-league team.
I've been through the agency entity change name thing with professional services companies in IT. This sounded remarkably similar. The organisation changes name and ABN due to ownership changes, for ABN and tax management purposes. Generally you essentially receive the same contract with a new letterhead and maybe an added clause to say that commitments for both parties carry over, so as to ensure super/leave entitlements are maintained together with end dates.
For mine, if that is what it was, mcGlinchey's move was a dirty one. Especially considering how it further tainted the club's rep.

 

[adz]

Yeah - the talk was that he leveraged what should have been an administrational exercise, when the club changed name, top claim that he no longer had a contact with an A-league team.
I've been through the agency entity change name thing with professional services companies in IT. This sounded remarkably similar. The organisation changes name and ABN due to ownership changes, for ABN and tax management purposes. Generally you essentially receive the same contract with a new letterhead and maybe an added clause to say that commitments for both parties carry over, so as to ensure super/leave entitlements are maintained together with end dates.
For mine, if that is what it was, mcGlinchey's move was a dirty one. Especially considering how it further tainted the club's rep.

Apparently the club used the same scenario to their advantage too, by getting rid of players they didn't want. You can't have it both ways - either everyone is securely under contract, or everyone is free to walk - or be shown the door.

Edit: The bit that annoys me most is the reasons WeeMac wanted out.

 

[Forum Phoenix]

Apparently the club used the same scenario to their advantage too, by getting rid of players they didn't want. You can't have it both ways - either everyone is securely under contract, or everyone is free to walk - or be shown the door.

Edit: The bit that annoys me most is the reasons WeeMac wanted out.

That he likes kiwis?

It's pretty hard to take isn't it.

 

[Wombat]

If we sign Warren and let Monty go i will not be able to show my usual restraint. That Pitchfork in the corner needs sharpening...excuse me for a moment.

 

[offtheball]

. for me, the McGlinchey loan deal was a major turning point for the Club, my recollection:

• the Club accepted a nominal loan fee
• presumably removing Mikey's salary from the books
• hoping for a buyout and big tranfer fee
• when Flores was injured (and before Mikey had left) the loan wasn't revoked - despite us not having a suitable alternative/replacement
• when the loan didn't work out - there didn't seem to be much interest in having the player back (or their welfare)
• then came the attempted re-negotiation of the contract

. as i'm sure Timmah will point out ... it is not as simple as that ... but to me, there was intent shown. that is one thing for fans, but a completely different thing for players ... especially in a small, isolated and close-knit football community as Australia

. we have since seen an eagerness for players to move away, a reluctance for 'old boys' to return ... and i think a difficulty in signing recognised players that we didn't experience in the past

. loyalty is indeed a two-way street ... i think Monty has done more than can be expected on his part

Fat thumbs on a small device had me hit the disagree button which should have been couldn't agree more.

 

[Wombat]

Apparently the Marc Warren thing was a joke by Yoda.....thank God.

 

[Capn Gus Bloodbeard]

If we sign Warren and let Monty go i will not be able to show my usual restraint. That Pitchfork in the corner needs sharpening...excuse me for a moment.

It's funny because I see you standing there in spandex, underpants on the outside and a cape with a big W on your chest...but now holding a pitchfork as your weapon of choice. Wombat of Wighteouthneth and hith Pitchfork of Prejudithe perhapth?

Why am I suddenly hearing the voice of Samuel L Jackson in Kingsman?

 

[nebakke]

It's funny because I see you standing there in spandex, underpants on the outside and a cape with a big W on your chest...but now holding a pitchfork as your weapon of choice. Wombat of Wighteouthneth and hith Pitchfork of Prejudithe perhapth?

Why am I suddenly hearing the voice of Samuel L Jackson in Kingsman?

This is quickly headed for "new mascot" territory! :-D

 

[Wombat]

The Mascot is surrounded by 4 small fit Thai girls who then Muay Thai our opposition mascots to the ground with elbows and knees. Now thats entertainment!

 

[finally retired]

Surrounded by 4 small fit Thai girls who then Muay Thai our opposition mascots to the ground with elbows and knees. Now thats entertainment!

now THAT might increase our crowds

 

[Capn Gus Bloodbeard]

Shit, when's the next flight up from Melbourne??

It's cold and wet down here anyway

 

[Wombat]

You see Shaun. Your Marketing just has to be a bit more subtle.

 

[Wombat]

now THAT might increase our crowds

At EAST GOSFORD AND WYONG THAI MASSAGE stadium.

There will still be Cucumbers sandwiches in the stands (dont want to shock the Gentry) as usual but the beer will be Singha.
The bays will be served Chicken Pad Thai or Chili Basil pork with complementary Chang beer.
The unused tents up the cannon end will be used for half timeThai massage. Discount for members Shaun
Security will be smiling Thai blokes with money slot scars trained to have zero tolerance for Newcastle Bogans.