R11 away v Sydney (Kogarah)

[shipwreck]

Wow you just pulled out the "Greg Owen " card. That just brought a smile to my face to see all that skill wasted on a player like him.

I don't know why but I always had a soft spot for Grego

 

[soccer mad]

Sydney are not necessarily playing the best Football but we still get pumped

 

[Insertnamehere]

Yeah @JoyfulPenguin already HAD .... like 45 mins before you.

Cool

 

[localpom]

If ever we needed a win it's tonight. Until we lose than it will be next week. Of course they will be on the bench but we need the 2 Tommy's to start.
I would bring BK back as it's slightly better than the alternative. Won't happen but i would like to see this.
.........................BK.......................................
...Millar.......Aspro.......Cisse...........Rowles...
...............Tommy H....Aiden.........................
..........................Tommy O...........................
....Murray.........Matty.................Connor........

 

[Charlie1]

Putting $10 on mariners to win paying $14

 

[pjennings]

If ever we needed a win it's tonight. Until we lose than it will be next week. Of course they will be on the bench but we need the 2 Tommy's to start.
I would bring BK back as it's slightly better than the alternative. Won't happen but i would like to see this.
.........................BK.......................................
...Millar.......Aspro.......Cisse...........Rowles...
...............Tommy H....Aiden.........................
..........................Tommy O...........................
....Murray.........Matty.................Connor........

As you said - the two Tommy's will be on the bench and I'd rather Murray in the middle

 

[localpom]

As you said - the two Tommy's will be on the bench and I'd rather Murray in the middle

TBH so would i and i would love to see Murray get a run. Can't see Matty not starting though.

 

[pjennings]

TBH so would i and i would love to see Murray get a run. Can't see Matty not starting though.

Let Matty play wide - he did under GA.

 

[localpom]

Let Matty play wide - he did under GA.

Sounds good to me. Maybe not to the coach though.

 

[adz]

Putting $10 on mariners to win paying $14

Just took the same at sportsbet.

 

[Insertnamehere]

If ever we needed a win it's tonight. Until we lose than it will be next week. Of course they will be on the bench but we need the 2 Tommy's to start.
I would bring BK back as it's slightly better than the alternative. Won't happen but i would like to see this.
.........................BK.......................................
...Millar.......Aspro.......Cisse...........Rowles...
...............Tommy H....Aiden.........................
..........................Tommy O...........................
....Murray.........Matty.................Connor........

Be the best team we've fielded since round 1

 

[true believer]

As you said - the two Tommy's will be on the bench and I'd rather Murray in the middle

murray got in the right spot a few times last week . i think he's a better option than matty simon

 

[turbo]

murray got in the right spot a few times last week . i think he's a better option matty simon

Definitely better. Thing that stood out to me the most was in the air despite being shorter he gets up and then looks to get some power and direction on the ball rather than nodding it in.

 

[Forum Phoenix]

Dropping Clisby altogether concerns me for a number of reasons :

- if it's to accommodate Rowles shifting left in a back x3, I'm totally fine with it.

However if it's a back x4 with Rowles at LB ... he just doesn't have the skills or confidence to bomb forward and contribute in the front 1/3.

When playing at LB last season Rowles rarely NEVER got past the halfway.

& this creates a problem in balance, as it was ALWAYS our RB doing the 'go-forward' runs to the by-line, becoming predictable to the oppisition who then look to exploit that hole left by the RB (Storm) in transition.

Defensively the opposition dont then have to worry about Rowles trying to get forward ... he doesn't like to.

"Easy .... wheras RB.. we'll focus on shutting Millar down instead "
-they'll double-team him any anyone trying to link with Milly on that RHS.

You’re right. This is all true, it’s the area of his game Rowles really has to develop if he’s going to play LB instead of CB. But Clisby, looks like he isn’t even trying and has become a liability.

So I’ll take defence over offense for now. Sadly,

 

[Forum Phoenix]

Hey mate just to fill you that was an Okon tactic that was pushed all the way down the Academy. The curriculum wasn't rigid enough for him - he actually took it a step further and made all the left backs stay back no matter what was in front of them or how attack minded they were and the right back was able to bomb forward at will. As you mentioned above it took A-League managers 2 games to figure it out and we became very easy to coach against.

WTF?

 

[Forum Phoenix]

He is a LB in a back 4 he doesnt need to bomb on.

Lets just get back to basics. Play up the line, cut it back inside, switch it or play it back.
Our defence our dummies ....lets keep it simple.
A back 3 with our quality and experience is suicide.

Yeah this is exactly how I see it too.

 

[Forum Phoenix]

Where’s preseason Clisby

He could take killer corners aswell.

 

[Ozhammer]

You’re right. This is all true, it’s the area of his game Rowkes really has to develop if he’s going to play LB instead of CB. But Clisby, looks like he isn’t even trying and has become a liability.

So I’ll take defence over offense for now. Sadly,

Whilst I get why folks shy away from it, playing 3 at the back means Rowles wouldn’t have to worry about getting up and down, so he can just concentrate on his defensive duties and the wing back in front of him can carry the attacking threat.

For the doubters, just look at the Perth game on NYE, we were better defensively after MM went to a back 3 than we were with a back 4 (we had already conceded 3 goals with a 4 man defence) and only conceded one more goal because Rowles decided to desert his post in the dying stages. We can make it work if we stick at it believe me.

 

[Forum Phoenix]

Whilst I get why folks shy away from it, playing 3 at the back means Rowles wouldn’t have to worry about getting up and down, ao he can just concentrate on his defensive duties and the wing back in front of him can carry the attacking threat.

For the doubters, just look at the Perth game on NYE, we were better defensively after MM went to a back 3 than we were with a back 4 (we had already conceded 3 goals with a 4 man defence) and only conceded one more goal because Rowles decided to desert his post in the dying stages. We can make it work if we stick at it believe me.

To be honest we don’t have a Left wing back in our squad imo. So while Rowdy is right about Rowles, Clisby offers not a great deal more and expect this is why we even ludicrously tried Golec.

So I don’t think back 3 suits our cattle. Not that I’m very optimistic no matter how we try tinker right now. We’re absent quality - two Toms are a start at least if we get them fit over the next 3 games.

As to back 3 helping our defence...
I honestly thought it was just Popovic deliberately preserving his players and sitting back that truly made any difference to our defensive frailties. Once we got one back and they decided to attack again the back three were exposed also. Without the 4th defender they were all too scared to break the line and play the ball and put pressure on the attacking run. So they just dribbled all the way to our box.

I think we’ve been given a handful of straws to work with OH. So no surprise we’re on here trying to clutch at them I guess

 

[Wombat]

You’re right. This is all true, it’s the area of his game Rowles really has to develop if he’s going to play LB instead of CB. But Clisby, looks like he isn’t even trying and has become a liability.

So I’ll take defence over offense for now. Sadly,

I think that is a tad harsh.
He looks confused by what is being asked off him and his confidence is down.

Muley has the defence lost in no mans land and they are not sure when to pick up and when to defend the zone.