I know that my choice of words was totally inappropriate and has only taken me a nites sleep to realize that, I should and will offer an apology to this particular woman. I agree SSensei that, to use your words I should have just ignored her" or better still "yeah I know, sorry, but it's what we do and we love it".
Not to excuse or condone my actions, but only for some understanding, which is what others are asking of me; it was said as a blow-off and contrary to what youve asserted SSensei I didnt aggressively dismiss her. Yeah I was angry but no more angrier than her, Auburn was standing directly behind me and can attest to this. Fyfe had just scored - I was bummed out like everyone else, I didnt start the song just happened to join in with the other dozen or so that did as well, some of whom also told her to shut-up. Like I said not to condone or excuse, just understand where I was coming from.
What I utterly dont understand is a couple of things a few have posted on here.
midfielder said:
Everything has boundaries those lines we do not cross over...., Your example encourages stretching and pushing boundaries...in closing your behaviour to me seems to encourage pushing boundaries..
What are the boundaries? Too many draw lines in the sand, one minute they have dry feet and in the next theyre ankle deep.
Here we are at the waters edge:
dibo said:
also, it doesn't take a leap of logic to realise that there's a difference here between telling a troll on the forum to f**k off and telling another marinator to f**k off because she didn't like what people were singing.
As I said, abusing/swearing directed @ someone on here, is the same as doing to their face in public. Why? Well just because its the internet, cyberspace, your not using your real name, 'theyre trolls' makes no difference IN THE EYES OF THE LAW. Not my opinions or views here Dibo, but LAW! Not just in this country either but in most throughout the world.
It is been attested many times over in courts around the world that THIS IS in the public domain. Yeah theyre trolls, but dont let the misnomer fool you into thinking that they arent people, they are, theyre just ones that either go for other HAL teams & hate us, or our players, our coach and our club.
Just because they arent one of us doesnt mean they cant come on here and say what they want, the forum is open to all the public. BUT they do come on here & should follow the rules, which you think apparently dont apply to us.
Here ARE the rules Dibo from the very first paragraph of the user agreements on the registration form, oh and also confirms this is a public place;
You agree, through your use of this website, that you will not post any material which is false,
defamatory, inaccurate,
abusive,
vulgar,
hateful, harassing,
obscene,
profane, sexually oriented,
threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, or
otherwise in violation of ANY law. This is not only humorous, but legal actions can be taken against you. You also agree not to post any copyrighted material unless the copyright is owned by you or you have consent from the owner of the copyrighted material.
Oh and theres this: Hide email address from public
So what's everyones opinions on the definitions of these words clearly outlined?
Mine is it's E=MC2, the Theory of Relativity, that is 'your opinion is relative to the relationship of the word'.
Some don't relate to the use of a simple term like 'shit'
I don't relate to being told what to do by someone I don't know or has the the authority to do so
(Yes I was smacked as a child
, but most kid's today aren't and are even more anti-auth, imo, so draw the analysis :-\)
midfielder said:
..to imply that a restricted forum that users choose to use is similar to a public place is .........well..........idiotic.
Logic?..Idiotic?. To add theres not even a box to tick stating that youre over 18, so in effect this forum is open to tech savvy 8 y.o and younger, as well as Guests that can read everything without necessarily registering & becoming a member/user.
Whats LAW in public also applies on the internet, making itwell public, who wouldve thunk. So Dibo & MF, NO! Im not drawing a long bow here and the logic is far from idiotic to say the least. Hell Dibo! Youve been given moderator status and accepted this role, but I dont see you deleting posts like those of Eggys. Adz as well, I regard him and his mate Bristol as good mates, and only quoted him as well as to point out the disparity here. People are telling ME to take hard look at myself, what about the rest of the forum? If you dont then youre basically telling me I can come on here, call whoever I like a fcukn cnut, etc, but as long as I dont express the same in the Bay Im alright :/
Ive done a bit of basic programming and from that I learnt that a CPU will do whatever you want it to do, if you program it accordingly that is
. Sure this forum wont let you type f**k, c**t etc but you can still post fcuk, cnut, f-off F/U,FFS and so on & so on. Even when you read f**k we all know what word the user inserted, despite the filter of the forum editing and inserting the **.
The filter could be set-up to not allow any forms of this type of language (I myself & friends on here are guilty of this use). If people know' that these words or any shortened version of them (if they come up with a new form of the naughty words , add it to the list) cant be used they would be forced to use more articulate thought when posting, instead of resorting to the easy option of the slag. This is a start BUT will it happen? Probably NOT.
But this is not the issue Im trying to highlight here, the issue is peoples ACCEPTANCE of one standard in an area of one's life but not applying it equally or fairly to another area that is has a direct relationship -forum/BT & Us vs THEM on forum. Seems that IT IS OK for some to not abide by the terms of the user agreement but not for others, and Im not just singling us vs the trolls either. The Sack Kwassie saga was an example of mariner fans slagging off at one another, some using offensive tones and obscene language as well.
If, as some have stated in this thread, that we should strive for the Bay area and all areas to be of a positive nature and all encompassing then I regard the BT Stadium to be THE FRONT YARD so to speak, where were trying to win awards with our manicured gardens and lawn for being the best supporters group in the HAL.
If this is so, then this website and the forum is the THE HOUSE that sits behind that garden, occupied by all on here.
I think were overdue for some house cleaning.
;D ;D bam 
