R3: CCM v Brisbane @ Gosford

[nebakke]

I said it last year and the same stands now.... People cannot hear the band playing at the start, we NEED to have the song recorded and blasted out over the tannoy so the band can play along and people can hear it WITH THE WORDS!!!!!!!! Otherwise, this will never take off

I really like the band - having them attempt to play along to music on the PA system is a horrendous idea... The best of musicians struggle to deal with the doppler effect in a stadium as it is - gets even worse when you can't actually hear the PA system and have an inexperienced rhythm section. Every single time, they have been out of time within the first 10 seconds, and it's not just by a little bit... By the end of it, it's always a cacophony of sound, rather than a specific tune...
Be better to just go with the sound being played over the PA system, for the walkout and the band doing the other stuff, that they do best.

 

[Timmah]

There's already enough fanfare around the walk-out without having the band there tbh. The band is a great concept but executed poorly and tbh I get the feeling it's actually having a negative impact on the active support. Maybe there's scope for the band to be elsewhere in the stadium?

 

[dibo]

There's already enough fanfare around the walk-out without having the band there tbh. The band is a great concept but executed poorly and tbh I get the feeling it's actually having a negative impact on the active support. Maybe there's scope for the band to be elsewhere in the stadium?

The whole thing (singing and band) has needed a re-think for a while.

The standard view seems to be that the band helps to create atmosphere where the singing is too thin.

I'm out of the active support now, but whilst I was there I think the band turned from being a helpful accompaniment that guides the singing to a tune and muscles it up to being a dominant presence that muscles out the singing. There were long periods which were dominated by the band providing backing to a trumpet solo, for example.

And some of the really basic things where the bay doesn't sing in tune (I'm particularly thinking of "shala lalalalala" but there are others) didn't get fixed either - I'd have thought a band could guide the singing to a tune but instead the band follows the same flat drone that the singing has been in.

It makes the song sound boring as shit, and because it's boring it peters out, and then you get a trumpet solo, where all the singers stand around with their thumbs in their arses whilst a band plays for a trumpet player to go virtuoso.

Because of that the entire energy level drops, the singers go back to their beers and only come back into it to sing when the band isn't in the way.

So whilst the standard view was true, I don't think it is anymore.

For large periods on Saturday it seemed that the band was driving the singing rather than the other way around and often you simply couldn't hear the singing at all.

I'm not sure what the solution is, and as I've stepped out of it I'm not going to criticise anyone's efforts - it's a bit rude to tell people in the bay to try harder from the stands - but I hope my two cents is taken constructively.

 

[shipwreck]

Personally I hate the band, I think it's old and the novelty wore off a long time ago. On TV it sounds repetitive and sad and only leads to remind viewers of the lack of atmosphere at the stadium..

If it's true that it is also killing the active support, then I say cull the band. Sorry to be blunt but that's my honest opinion.

 

[FFC Mariner]

I was told that the band are starting to cop abuse in the bay - probably couldnt be heard over the trumpet?

As I said earlier, we have left that area because who wants 90 minutes of a brass band? Not us.

If the walk out song is that horrible drum and bass 90's cover, rethink now before its too late.

Dibo is right, nature abhors a vacuum and without active support, the band have stepped in

 

[yorkshireman]

tannoy = PA system

 

[dibo]

Dibo is right, nature abhors a vacuum and without active support, the band have stepped in

That wasn't quite what I was arguing - I was arguing that the band have damaged the active support rather than bolstered it.

 

[Leigh]

Want to have a wager on City v Victory?

Honestly I'm not that confident. I just think Rojas is better than any one else in the league. Berisha and Rojas are better than Cahill and Fornaroli imo. I think both pairings are great, and I want to see Cahill do well, but Rojas is on another level.

I've said this before, on Facebook and got flamed for it. But Rojas is more like Messi, and Cahill is like Suarez in their playing style. I think Rojas really has the X-factor.

 

[Forum Phoenix]

1 hour Thai massage?

You lose wombat massages you. High stakes indeed.

FFC's point is well taken. No way I'd be happy sitting amongst a brass band for 90. I'm not sure the band should be cut outright - but definitely seems to be some genuine issues to address. Be sad to see it degenerate and become ugly. Not sure what communication between band and PP etc is like?

But will say if that walk out ritual of shorts sneakers and whatever that cacophonous music was continues, i'll be more than unimpressed.
These things really do make a difference to our brand imho.

Full band military style dress regalia in club colours will suffice - or it has to go. Club wants to use the band - they need to throw a few dollars at it so it is done properly. Otherwise will continue to look like amateur hour. Not good for club or sponsors.

 

[Forum Phoenix]

Honestly I'm not that confident. I just think Rojas is better than any one else in the league. Berisha and Rojas are better than Cahill and Fornaroli imo. I think both pairings are great, and I want to see Cahill do well, but Rojas is on another level.

I've said this before, on Facebook and got flamed for it. But Rojas is more like Messi, and Cahill is like Suarez in their playing style. I think Rojas really has the X-factor.

You got flamed for comparing Messi with Rojas?

Weird.

 

[nebakke]

That wasn't quite what I was arguing - I was arguing that the band have damaged the active support rather than bolstered it.

To be honest, I don't think one flows from the other necessarily.

Bay 16 is not exactly growing these days... At the start of last season they seemed bigger than I have seen in quite a while, no doubt in part thanks to the introduction of the cheapish YA Memberships... But losing game after game, meant that people stopped showing, on a whole and with seemingly a fair few new-ish members in the bay, they're also often some of the first to leave, so YA dwindled further, to the point that it's at now. Now, from where I was sitting, I was pleasantly pleased to see that there seemed to be more there on the weekend than there were at the end of last season, but with no bullhorn there was also no guidance this weekend, and with that missing, I expect it becomes even more of an uphill battle, to engage the crowd... The band then plays to fill the void, and I don't see how that's an issue, OR their fault... People had stopped singing well before the band showed up and I always took the solo-noodling to exist largely because it gets both boring and frustrating to play the same tune for longer periods of time, but it's either that or silence.

I don't know what the fix is, but I expect it involves winning some games and bringing the excitement back on the pitch.

 

[BrisRecky]

Starting to think that Walmsleys rumored lack of training intensity is hurting us in the last 20.

We were walking and Brisbane easily closed the game out

got to agree, didnt see blokes going fkn near windless or cramping up when Clarkey was running the fitness

 

[Wombat]

Honestly I'm not that confident. I just think Rojas is better than any one else in the league. Berisha and Rojas are better than Cahill and Fornaroli imo. I think both pairings are great, and I want to see Cahill do well, but Rojas is on another level.

I've said this before, on Facebook and got flamed for it. But Rojas is more like Messi, and Cahill is like Suarez in their playing style. I think Rojas really has the X-factor.

I like Rojas a lot. He is in my fantasy dream team.

 

[Gratis]

I like Rojas a lot. He is in my fantasy dream team.

That's a bit racey *grin*

 

[midfielder]

A competitive team would help a lot ... trouble is last year we had a goodish state team... which we have improved but honestly when I look at the other teams me thinks we will struggle ...

We are kinda in a winning business ... we simply don't have enough quality in the team and the balance is all over the place we have 4 Defensive and no Creative 10...

I fell like we should almost play a 442 with Fab playing a false 9 behind Roy with Pain and Trent wide with Trave and Rose [yes Rose] as centre mids ..

 

[style_cafe]

It's a little bland, but disgusting? If drink it over the standard domestic draughts any day.

Dibo you need to re-program your taste buds mate, Wombat was being very kind calling it disgusting!...

 

[style_cafe]

Is there anything you two don't disagree on?
I think some savvy TV producer should pay you both good coin to live together for 6 months and film it. Though it may well become a snuff film.

Oh and if we're talking match day experience, all half time and then i lasted 8 minutes into the second half before I abandoned the coffee line. Saw a lot of people walk away. If CCM does get stadium rights, one to improve and make a few extra dollars from.

I queued for 20mins to half a cup of froth (I ordered a flat white). & there was only a dozen people in front of me.
I ended up missing the first 5 mins of the second half.

 

[style_cafe]

To be honest, I don't think one flows from the other necessarily.

Bay 16 is not exactly growing these days... At the start of last season they seemed bigger than I have seen in quite a while, no doubt in part thanks to the introduction of the cheapish YA Memberships... But losing game after game, meant that people stopped showing, on a whole and with seemingly a fair few new-ish members in the bay, they're also often some of the first to leave, so YA dwindled further, to the point that it's at now. Now, from where I was sitting, I was pleasantly pleased to see that there seemed to be more there on the weekend than there were at the end of last season, but with no bullhorn there was also no guidance this weekend, and with that missing, I expect it becomes even more of an uphill battle, to engage the crowd... The band then plays to fill the void, and I don't see how that's an issue, OR their fault... People had stopped singing well before the band showed up and I always took the solo-noodling to exist largely because it gets both boring and frustrating to play the same tune for longer periods of time, but it's either that or silence.

I don't know what the fix is, but I expect it involves winning some games and bringing the excitement back on the pitch.

I think the problem on the weekend was that PP wasn`t there & no-one stepped into his role.
Sort of makes one appreciate the hard work he puts in to keeping it all going....

 

[Forum Phoenix]

That's a bit racey *grin*

Perhaps a massage is in order?

 

[nebakke]

I think the problem on the weekend was that PP wasn`t there & no-one stepped into his role.
Sort of makes one appreciate the hard work he puts in to keeping it all going....

DEFINITELY! !!

I guess that's what happens when your capo is a part timer like @priorpeter eh?