The Stajcic Era, a Partnership of desperates or a Marriage Made in Heaven?

Discussion in 'Central Coast Mariners FC' started by Ancient Mariner, Mar 12, 2019.

  1. Insertnamehere

    Insertnamehere Well-Known Member

    Surely Monty and other yoof coaches have a hand in senior training?
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  2. jacobclear

    jacobclear Active Member

    Monty might be able to teach Silvera and Milan the term "determination".

    Apparently it's a foreign concept to them
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  3. Insertnamehere

    Insertnamehere Well-Known Member

    Ouch. We gonna need some burnaid
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  4. Big Al

    Big Al Well-Known Member

    Staj is a renowned hard arse.

    The players you mentioned, we expected better from. Is it just a coach who knows some of his players aren’t good enough.

    We’ve had this before and barely any of those players are still playing in the league.

    Oar was a Mulvey signing but also a massive flop. I was surprised when he left Brisbane the second time for greece. I watched him at CCS when he was playing for Roar and thought wow this guy was supposed to be the next big thing and he’s terrible

    No doubt Staj is making errors but is also stuck with some ordinary players.

    I think Staj is smart enough to correct his recruiting mistakes and he is also trying to do it on a budget.

    Also loosing sucks and brings out the crying in every one.

    What’s worrying now is the dumb mistakes are creeping back in.

    Staj can coach them perfectly but if a LB can’t pass a ball hard enough every thing falls apart. These errors cause massive frustration. Then everyone gets angry and heads drop and suddenly know one starts covering runs. On top of this the attack aren’t clicking so as soon as you give up stupid goal every one goes we are f**ked again.

    We are last the coach should be pissed at the players abd the players should be pissed at the coach. Anyone happy in our club right now doesn’t belong
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  5. FFC Mariner

    FFC Mariner Well-Known Member

    Except for Jair, the people letting the club down are not his signings. Oar, Simon, Judas, Melling and Clisby etc were nothing to do with him. I'd suggest there is about $800k of our miserly cap tied up in them.
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  6. bikinigirl

    bikinigirl Well-Known Member

    . what an innovative, yet logical approach ... you sir, clearly have no future in sports administration
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  7. Wombat

    Wombat Well-Known Member

    It’s cute but not practical. I can’t think of one former player that has the coaching experience to be successful. Maybe Damien Mori but with a squad that started without a proper experienced CB and Centre’s the usual Charlesworth farce.
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  8. FFC Mariner

    FFC Mariner Well-Known Member

    Neither did Corica or Talay. Or Rudan for that matter
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  9. Ozhammer

    Ozhammer Well-Known Member

    Monty now has his UEFA Pro Licence and if you get the chance, have a chat with some of the youth boys about how he goes about things.

    Whilst Mori would also potentially be worth considering, Hutch should also be part of that discussion. Speaking to someone involved with WU, he was advisedly held in high regard by the playing group there, plus Seattle saw fit to offer him their assistant coach role.
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  10. Ads

    Ads Active Member

    Everyone gets sick of loosing, including the players.
    Staj didn’t have any easy task but I did think despite the average results and position he would have maintained the positivity and reminded each player what they are out there for.
    Even if each player has a different reason or goal there should be motivation to succeed if delivered correctly to each individual.
    I thought we would have more draws if you simply knuckle down and play simple but as mentioned I feel the players become frustrated if they don’t agree with the structure, style or simply who’s playing that day.

    And like any workplace don’t forget the players would talk to each other and she re ideas and negative thoughts back and forth.
    And like with Reddy, Caceras and a few over past 4 seasons when you speak up and go against coach’s ideas it is the first step out the door.

    The professionalism within the club has slightly improved with this year, plugging some mistakes from last.
    But I still feel a distinct lack of communication between players and club.

    I think it was mentioned they touch base with players every couple of weeks or month to check how they are going, etc.

    Based on our retention and history the first thing I would be doing next season is hiring someone to keep open conversation with the players every single day!
    especially make time after every game to hear their thoughts and feelings so they feel like they are contributing and have a voice.

    The coach doesn’t have time to baby adults but if all the rumers, negativity, chit chat is vented properly we may have a chance for a motivation specialist to keep the players engaged during the season and identify what motivates that person.
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  11. Wombat

    Wombat Well-Known Member

    Let me clarify. I meant former Mariners players.
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  12. FFC Mariner

    FFC Mariner Well-Known Member

    Monty has done a decent job sorting out the youth. Might need another season in NPL before taking over
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  13. Dodz

    Dodz New Member

    Staj has to go
    We are embarrassing the score line flatered us!
    Doesn't look like we have a game plan
    We are never going to win If "there is tension between both the coaching staff and the playing group"
    time for someone to step in and coach the team
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  14. Dodz

    Dodz New Member

    Give the job to Monty now until the end of the Season
    He is doing a really good job with youth team
    He can't do any worse than Staj
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  15. priorpeter

    priorpeter Well-Known Member

    Ok Paolo, chill.
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  16. Wombat

    Wombat Well-Known Member


    Is that Ken Dodz?
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  17. style_cafe

    style_cafe Well-Known Member

    You shouldn`t be writing on here Mrs Montgomery...:popcorn:
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  18. Wombat

    Wombat Well-Known Member

    Not really. Monty helps out a bit.

    Staj is very hands on.

    Him and Arrante are pretty good coaches.
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  19. Insertnamehere

    Insertnamehere Well-Known Member

    To my mind you've got 2 guys trying mould 25 guys. In terms of management span of control you lose control after 8. So in theory we should have 3-4 guys reporting to Staj. That's where I think Monty and the yoof guys should help.
    Implementing Stajs training plans. Assisting guys 1 on 1. Providing extra curriculas.
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  20. Wombat

    Wombat Well-Known Member

    They had a couple of new players trying out. A very young kid at RB and a CM. He looked like a young Jedi with the full beard. Both were not lacking in confidence.
    No Yoof as they were playing Manly last night.
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