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The Stajcic Era, a Partnership of desperates or a Marriage Made in Heaven?

Insertnamehere

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This is where the real difference comes in. The cap is nothing compared to how a group of coaches can develop players and bond them into a team. It's the difference between the bigger boys and us.
A super-coach like Arnie can work around those issues, but those people don't come along every day.
Surely Monty and other yoof coaches have a hand in senior training?
 

Big Al

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I have held off saying too much about things I have heard this season, as I haven’t been able to validate some of it BUT my main source tells me things are not rosy behind the scenes.

I am led to believe that there is tension between both the coaching staff and the playing group, which is unlikely to resolve itself anytime soon, so we can expect some more departures at season’s end. How much of it is down to the coaching ethos or the team’s lowly league position is difficult to say but there are certainly issues at play.

This team was only ever going to have any chance of success if every part of the football department stuck together but I understand that is not the case unfortunately.

Given this is Staj’s first senior men’s coaching gig, I would expect him to be learning as he went to a degree, so perhaps that is part of the problem but if he was doing a great job, why would someone like Galifuoco leave, when he openly stated that he specifically joined us to work with Staj?

Oar has supposedly also not been happy with the situation for some time, so had no intention of staying way before MacArthur picked him up, not that he has really impressed during his time here tbh.

As I say, I have been reluctant to cast aspersions as I have been seen to death ride the last four coaches and so it feels like a real case of déjà vu from where I sit. As others have rightly said, just changing coaches every season won’t alter the club’s trajectory, as the issues go far deeper than that. Instead of MC having to write a cheque to cover our losses at the end of another disastrous season, perhaps he might consider writing that cheque at the start of next season and give the team a chance to be meaningfully competitive?

As for future coaching candidates, I would suggest that there are two former players who could do a good job, whilst understanding the true meaning of the Mariners original culture. :popcorn:
Staj is a renowned hard arse.

The players you mentioned, we expected better from. Is it just a coach who knows some of his players aren’t good enough.

We’ve had this before and barely any of those players are still playing in the league.

Oar was a Mulvey signing but also a massive flop. I was surprised when he left Brisbane the second time for greece. I watched him at CCS when he was playing for Roar and thought wow this guy was supposed to be the next big thing and he’s terrible

No doubt Staj is making errors but is also stuck with some ordinary players.

I think Staj is smart enough to correct his recruiting mistakes and he is also trying to do it on a budget.

Also loosing sucks and brings out the crying in every one.

What’s worrying now is the dumb mistakes are creeping back in.

Staj can coach them perfectly but if a LB can’t pass a ball hard enough every thing falls apart. These errors cause massive frustration. Then everyone gets angry and heads drop and suddenly know one starts covering runs. On top of this the attack aren’t clicking so as soon as you give up stupid goal every one goes we are f**ked again.

We are last the coach should be pissed at the players abd the players should be pissed at the coach. Anyone happy in our club right now doesn’t belong
 

FFC Mariner

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Except for Jair, the people letting the club down are not his signings. Oar, Simon, Judas, Melling and Clisby etc were nothing to do with him. I'd suggest there is about $800k of our miserly cap tied up in them.
 

bikinigirl

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Instead of MC having to write a cheque to cover our losses at the end of another disastrous season, perhaps he might consider writing that cheque at the start of next season and give the team a chance to be meaningfully competitive

. what an innovative, yet logical approach ... you sir, clearly have no future in sports administration
 

Wombat

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I have held off saying too much about things I have heard this season, as I haven’t been able to validate some of it BUT my main source tells me things are not rosy behind the scenes.

I am led to believe that there is tension between both the coaching staff and the playing group, which is unlikely to resolve itself anytime soon, so we can expect some more departures at season’s end. How much of it is down to the coaching ethos or the team’s lowly league position is difficult to say but there are certainly issues at play.

This team was only ever going to have any chance of success if every part of the football department stuck together but I understand that is not the case unfortunately.

Given this is Staj’s first senior men’s coaching gig, I would expect him to be learning as he went to a degree, so perhaps that is part of the problem but if he was doing a great job, why would someone like Galifuoco leave, when he openly stated that he specifically joined us to work with Staj?

Oar has supposedly also not been happy with the situation for some time, so had no intention of staying way before MacArthur picked him up, not that he has really impressed during his time here tbh.

As I say, I have been reluctant to cast aspersions as I have been seen to death ride the last four coaches and so it feels like a real case of déjà vu from where I sit. As others have rightly said, just changing coaches every season won’t alter the club’s trajectory, as the issues go far deeper than that. Instead of MC having to write a cheque to cover our losses at the end of another disastrous season, perhaps he might consider writing that cheque at the start of next season and give the team a chance to be meaningfully competitive?

As for future coaching candidates, I would suggest that there are two former players who could do a good job, whilst understanding the true meaning of the Mariners original culture. :popcorn:


It’s cute but not practical. I can’t think of one former player that has the coaching experience to be successful. Maybe Damien Mori but with a squad that started without a proper experienced CB and Centre forward.....it’s the usual Charlesworth farce.
 

FFC Mariner

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It’s cute but not practical. I can’t think of one former player that has the coaching experience to be successful. Maybe Damien Mori but with a squad that started without a proper experienced CB and Centre forward.....it’s the usual Charlesworth farce.
Neither did Corica or Talay. Or Rudan for that matter
 

Ozhammer

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Monty now has his UEFA Pro Licence and if you get the chance, have a chat with some of the youth boys about how he goes about things.

Whilst Mori would also potentially be worth considering, Hutch should also be part of that discussion. Speaking to someone involved with WU, he was advisedly held in high regard by the playing group there, plus Seattle saw fit to offer him their assistant coach role.
 
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Ads

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Everyone gets sick of loosing, including the players.
Staj didn’t have any easy task but I did think despite the average results and position he would have maintained the positivity and reminded each player what they are out there for.
Even if each player has a different reason or goal there should be motivation to succeed if delivered correctly to each individual.
I thought we would have more draws if you simply knuckle down and play simple but as mentioned I feel the players become frustrated if they don’t agree with the structure, style or simply who’s playing that day.

And like any workplace don’t forget the players would talk to each other and she re ideas and negative thoughts back and forth.
And like with Reddy, Caceras and a few over past 4 seasons when you speak up and go against coach’s ideas it is the first step out the door.

The professionalism within the club has slightly improved with this year, plugging some mistakes from last.
But I still feel a distinct lack of communication between players and club.

I think it was mentioned they touch base with players every couple of weeks or month to check how they are going, etc.

Based on our retention and history the first thing I would be doing next season is hiring someone to keep open conversation with the players every single day!
especially make time after every game to hear their thoughts and feelings so they feel like they are contributing and have a voice.

The coach doesn’t have time to baby adults but if all the rumers, negativity, chit chat is vented properly we may have a chance for a motivation specialist to keep the players engaged during the season and identify what motivates that person.
 

Dodz

Member
I have held off saying too much about things I have heard this season, as I haven’t been able to validate some of it BUT my main source tells me things are not rosy behind the scenes.

I am led to believe that there is tension between both the coaching staff and the playing group, which is unlikely to resolve itself anytime soon, so we can expect some more departures at season’s end. How much of it is down to the coaching ethos or the team’s lowly league position is difficult to say but there are certainly issues at play.

This team was only ever going to have any chance of success if every part of the football department stuck together but I understand that is not the case unfortunately.

Given this is Staj’s first senior men’s coaching gig, I would expect him to be learning as he went to a degree, so perhaps that is part of the problem but if he was doing a great job, why would someone like Galifuoco leave, when he openly stated that he specifically joined us to work with Staj?

Oar has supposedly also not been happy with the situation for some time, so had no intention of staying way before MacArthur picked him up, not that he has really impressed during his time here tbh.

As I say, I have been reluctant to cast aspersions as I have been seen to death ride the last four coaches and so it feels like a real case of déjà vu from where I sit. As others have rightly said, just changing coaches every season won’t alter the club’s trajectory, as the issues go far deeper than that. Instead of MC having to write a cheque to cover our losses at the end of another disastrous season, perhaps he might consider writing that cheque at the start of next season and give the team a chance to be meaningfully competitive?

As for future coaching candidates, I would suggest that there are two former players who could do a good job, whilst understanding the true meaning of the Mariners original
I have held off saying too much about things I have heard this season, as I haven’t been able to validate some of it BUT my main source tells me things are not rosy behind the scenes.

I am led to believe that there is tension between both the coaching staff and the playing group, which is unlikely to resolve itself anytime soon, so we can expect some more departures at season’s end. How much of it is down to the coaching ethos or the team’s lowly league position is difficult to say but there are certainly issues at play.

This team was only ever going to have any chance of success if every part of the football department stuck together but I understand that is not the case unfortunately.

Given this is Staj’s first senior men’s coaching gig, I would expect him to be learning as he went to a degree, so perhaps that is part of the problem but if he was doing a great job, why would someone like Galifuoco leave, when he openly stated that he specifically joined us to work with Staj?

Oar has supposedly also not been happy with the situation for some time, so had no intention of staying way before MacArthur picked him up, not that he has really impressed during his time here tbh.

As I say, I have been reluctant to cast aspersions as I have been seen to death ride the last four coaches and so it feels like a real case of déjà vu from where I sit. As others have rightly said, just changing coaches every season won’t alter the club’s trajectory, as the issues go far deeper than that. Instead of MC having to write a cheque to cover our losses at the end of another disastrous season, perhaps he might consider writing that cheque at the start of next season and give the team a chance to be meaningfully competitive?

As for future coaching candidates, I would suggest that there are two former players who could do a good job, whilst understanding the true meaning of the Mariners original culture. :popcorn:
Staj has to go
We are embarrassing the score line flatered us!
Doesn't look like we have a game plan
We are never going to win If "there is tension between both the coaching staff and the playing group"
time for someone to step in and coach the team
 

priorpeter

Well-Known Member
Staj has to go
We are embarrassing the score line flatered us!
Doesn't look like we have a game plan
We are never going to win If "there is tension between both the coaching staff and the playing group"
time for someone to step in and coach the team

Ok Paolo, chill.
 

Insertnamehere

Well-Known Member
Not really. Monty helps out a bit.

Staj is very hands on.

Him and Arrante are pretty good coaches.
To my mind you've got 2 guys trying mould 25 guys. In terms of management span of control you lose control after 8. So in theory we should have 3-4 guys reporting to Staj. That's where I think Monty and the yoof guys should help.
Implementing Stajs training plans. Assisting guys 1 on 1. Providing extra curriculas.
 

Wombat

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They had a couple of new players trying out. A very young kid at RB and a CM. He looked like a young Jedi with the full beard. Both were not lacking in confidence.
No Yoof as they were playing Manly last night.
 

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