The Stajcic Era, a Partnership of desperates or a Marriage Made in Heaven?

Discussion in 'Central Coast Mariners FC' started by Ancient Mariner, Mar 12, 2019.


  1. Waspish

    Waspish Active Member

    Great post and I agree completely except for selecting Melling and Simon as a way forward *grin*
    I genuinely don't know how we pull this particular season from the toilet though.
     
  2. Ancient Mariner

    Ancient Mariner Well-Known Member

    Not trying to argue. Just trying to point out that sacking Staj is definitely not the way forward.

    We need a rusted on Coastie billionaire who is crazy about football who will buy all or part of the Club and invest a few millions for a few years to get us back on our feet.

    "Money does not buy happiness"...........................................No, but it sure helps you avoid a lot of misery. :headbutt:
     
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  3. Waspish

    Waspish Active Member

    I'm 100% with you
     
  4. turbo

    turbo Well-Known Member

    Staj can't be the scapegoat on this one. The public arent stupid and wont swallow that every time. If a scalp needs to be claimed we need to look at the common denominators and those behind the scenes that have been present for years of rubbish.
     
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  5. pjennings

    pjennings Well-Known Member

    Agree 100%. I remember when we used to laugh at the smurfs for continually changing the manager.

    It really does come back to investment in the club (and how that is funded). What is happening now has not worked for more than 5 years. The model we are using that in reality was broken from the beginning is now just a huge pile of steaming :poo::poo::poo::poo:.

    The model has to change. Investment has to come. We have a good second side side signed for next year. Now we need to invest in the the main team - starting with re-signing Birraz for 3 years.
     
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  6. turbo

    turbo Well-Known Member

    Austerity measures after the take over were tolerable as a short term thing but between poor spending and under funding we've consistently failed to put together a squad the fans can get behind hoping for even a mid table finish. There's a direct cost associated with falling crowds and memberships as even the most rusted on supporters are being driven away. It can't be a chicken and egg scenario, results are needed to try to win back the rightfully jaded supporters. To do that the club and MC need to make the first move.
     
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  7. LFCMariners

    LFCMariners Well-Known Member

    If only Singo wasn't such a rusted on league man. He'd spend what it took to make CCM successful and have the passion for the area to do it, even if football wasn't his first sport.
     
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  8. Ads

    Ads Active Member

    Even if Staj has the $$$.
    There is 400k between the bottom of the cap & top. And spent a bit on marquee $$$.

    The question is as an experienced player would you choose to come here even if the offer was 25/50/100k higher knowing you might damage your future value?

    (Along with a probability you going to loose a lot)
     
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  9. turbo

    turbo Well-Known Member

    Bold of you to assume we are spending the cap floor and aren't doing something creative with DDS wage counting the full amount against the cap but only paying a portion out of our pocket or just blatantly not spending the cap. That's not even touching on overpaying Simon and Mcglinchey or some other wage thieves.

    At 23 squad members that's 125,217 on average per player. I count 10-11 players who are likely to be anywhere near that number or above. Lets be generous and assume the other players are on 80k (12 players, 960k total), that brings your average up to 174k for top 11. Now we know some will be on much less and scholarships so that number is going to be higher in reality. How many of our players would earn 175k or more at another A league team?
     
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  10. pjennings

    pjennings Well-Known Member

    I'l assume 22 players. Second XI should average maybe 85,000. First XI average 250,000 for 9 players plus 2 marquees.

    That is what is required - total spend will need to be close to or above $4M. TBH - if you invest in a decent squad your game day losses may even become game day profits.
     
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  11. Ancient Mariner

    Ancient Mariner Well-Known Member

    It is not only spending on the cap. There is plenty to be needed in support as well.
    FFS this season we finally got a video analyst.
     
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  12. bikinigirl

    bikinigirl Well-Known Member

    . this is one of the things that really scares me ... from what i understand we have at least a season once the Roma/Roda contribution is gone - forget the cap ... where is the cash going to come from?
     
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  13. bikinigirl

    bikinigirl Well-Known Member

    ... well, to be fair, it has taken a long time to find someone that will do it for peanuts*

    * by peanuts i mean the broken bits that you may find in the bottom of the bag if you can sift through the salt and other detritus. Note: by no means am I ungrateful for the work the analyst has done
     
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  14. pjennings

    pjennings Well-Known Member

    Well to be really fair the best video analyst the HAL has seen was JC who did it on a part-time basis on top of his job as keeper coach.
     
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  15. RECKY

    RECKY I'm an idiot savant without the pesky savant bit

    Really! ...did they give him a laptop so he could watch you tube highlights of the game
     
  16. FFC Mariner

    FFC Mariner Well-Known Member

    There are reports that ane
    Settle
    He'd have to use his own lap top or use one at the library
     
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  17. Ozhammer

    Ozhammer Well-Known Member

    I have held off saying too much about things I have heard this season, as I haven’t been able to validate some of it BUT my main source tells me things are not rosy behind the scenes.

    I am led to believe that there is tension between both the coaching staff and the playing group, which is unlikely to resolve itself anytime soon, so we can expect some more departures at season’s end. How much of it is down to the coaching ethos or the team’s lowly league position is difficult to say but there are certainly issues at play.

    This team was only ever going to have any chance of success if every part of the football department stuck together but I understand that is not the case unfortunately.

    Given this is Staj’s first senior men’s coaching gig, I would expect him to be learning as he went to a degree, so perhaps that is part of the problem but if he was doing a great job, why would someone like Galifuoco leave, when he openly stated that he specifically joined us to work with Staj?

    Oar has supposedly also not been happy with the situation for some time, so had no intention of staying way before MacArthur picked him up, not that he has really impressed during his time here tbh.

    As I say, I have been reluctant to cast aspersions as I have been seen to death ride the last four coaches and so it feels like a real case of déjà vu from where I sit. As others have rightly said, just changing coaches every season won’t alter the club’s trajectory, as the issues go far deeper than that. Instead of MC having to write a cheque to cover our losses at the end of another disastrous season, perhaps he might consider writing that cheque at the start of next season and give the team a chance to be meaningfully competitive?

    As for future coaching candidates, I would suggest that there are two former players who could do a good job, whilst understanding the true meaning of the Mariners original culture. :popcorn:
     
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  18. FFC Mariner

    FFC Mariner Well-Known Member

    Id be really wary of allowing failing senior staff to begin yet another whispering campaign to deflect from their abject failure.
    Like they usually do.
    Think the rot is a bit higher up the tree than the coach.
     
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  19. Insertnamehere

    Insertnamehere Well-Known Member

    I'd be really really doubtful whispering would be coming from the coaching team given what Staj went through with the FFA.
     
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  20. onto it

    onto it Active Member

    This is where the real difference comes in. The cap is nothing compared to how a group of coaches can develop players and bond them into a team. It's the difference between the bigger boys and us.
    A super-coach like Arnie can work around those issues, but those people don't come along every day.
     

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