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Sydney FC in trouble?

Paolo

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At the press conference today it was said that he will not be sacked and he will be around next season
 

Redline

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keensy said:
At the press conference today it was said that he will not be sacked and he will be around next season

When was the last time there was a negative article about us, players etc?
 

BAD BULLZ

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Do we count the back lash from the "meelee" aginst the jets :headbutt: :headbutt:
if not then
Probably the mad monday with vidmar n vukovic dressing "inappropriatly" ::)
And before that i think we copped the disipline issue artical at some stage. due to a few reds.
 

FFC Mariner

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Actually it looks like we have dropped off the media's radar at the moment.

Its all Adelaide, Tards and Bling.

Lets keep it this way until its too late and they have to fall back on their "plucky battlers" or "not much quality this season" stand bys for whenever we do well
 

serious14

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Righto, Kossie's gone, I give it a week - he just got the 'backing of the board'.  We all know what that means......

http://www.smh.com.au/news/sport/football/a-league/fc-owners-give-kossie-the-vote-of-confidence/2009/01/05/1231003937846.html

BOTH the existing and incoming owners of Sydney FC have thrown their weight behind coach John Kosmina for now, saying they intend to see out his contract, which expires at the end of next season.

Chairman Andrew Kemeny, who will step down from his post when the new owners complete their takeover in March, said there was "no question" Kosmina would stay on as coach and ruled out sacking the former Adelaide United boss before season's end.


GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONE!!!!!!!!!!
 

FFC Mariner

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Kemeny is out on his arse when the new owners take over so he isnt going to punt his Hakoah mate before then is he?

Personally, I dont think he should get the flick. Who are they going to replace him with? Arnoldout?

Oh if only................
 

dru

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FFC Mariner said:
Kemeny is out on his arse when the new owners take over so he isnt going to punt his Hakoah mate before then is he?

Personally, I dont think he should get the flick. Who are they going to replace him with? Arnoldout?

Oh if only................

I like the way you think, do you have a newsletter?
 

clarence

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FFC Mariner said:
Kemeny is out on his arse when the new owners take over so he isnt going to punt his Hakoah mate before then is he?

Personally, I dont think he should get the flick. Who are they going to replace him with? Arnoldout?

Oh if only................

+1 except for the bit about Arnoldout.

I reckon the new owner will persevere with Kosmina in pre season for the 09/10 season. But if there's not enough improvement in their pre season workouts would suspect they'd bring in someone from outside of the Australian scene, and perhaps from Russia.

Ideally, of course, you'd want to either have a rock solid manager in place for the whole season or bring in a new one for the start of the new season. But we are dealing with Sydney FC here, and I guess there will be some board members from the old regime still there when the new owners come in in March.

Sydney have never regarded the pre season that highly and would be quite prepared to experiment with Kosmina with it.

The remaining members of the board would probably convince the Russian it was too late and too expensive to replace him anyways.

But if this new Russian owner is anything like a lot of other Russian business people, he'll be bloody ruthless when he has to make changes.

I suspect he'll tolerate advice from existing board members to a point, but if he gets the feeling they are feathering their own nest by keeping mates on the payroll, he'll probably make them all disappear pretty quickly.
 

Jorome Alexander Bennett

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Bringing in a manager after preseason would be a huge error. Extremely tough on the new guy and would just prolong the three ring circus.

Kosmina has to go. He is not a good manager. He can not inspire his troops, out think his opponents, defy adversity. He won the premiership with Adelaide on a good run, which he deserves credit for. But if there is a bump on he road, we see the worst of the man.

They must get rid of him and bring in just about anyone, but support them, actual support from the board, for at least 2 seasons. Obviously, they could only do this if the man they brought in for the job was deserving of their support.

We can see with Kosmina, as soon as things went south, people were on his back. This is due to him being extremely unlikable. If they brought back Branko and he had 3 losses on the trot people like Fink would claim armageddon because of a combination of past record and a general thirst for sydney bashing.

So in a way they must bring in someone with experience. There may be great coaches in Australia, or even great football managers, but they need someone with track record and demeanor that can instill trust in the players, the board and the supporters. So that if there is 3 losses in a row, people don't bay for blood. The manager would then have time to build a team. All the Australian options are too green or failed in the past.
 

brett

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Arnold to FC would be a strange twist of fate and make for extremely interesting viewing.

It would be the worst possible career move for him at this point in time. FC is a club with ridiculous expectations - so basically if he lost games, he would be ridiculed and probably have to retire if not suicide, and if he won games, that is what is demanded so it is more of a 'par' result rather than success. And he probably wouldn't win them with enough style. It's a lose lose.
 

Rowdy

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FFC Mariner said:
If he lost games?

Arnoldout would be a disaster for SFC.

Yeah but at least Arnie wouldn't take the bitch slapping and shoulder barging from Kev and Sloppy, he'd be into them in a heartbeat! I'd pay to see that  :popcorn:
 

dibo

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Why Sydney are not united

Article from: The Daily Telegraph

By Tom Smithies

January 23, 2009 12:00am

THERE'S a joke going around Football Australia that every member of staff has to attend Sydney FC's final home game on Sunday - and bring every friend they can muster.

There's a real fear that the crowd for a meaningless fixture could be less than the 8502 who attended the 1-1 draw with Queensland in November.

Setting a record of the worst kind would be an apt metaphor for what has been a dreadful FC season.

The few remaining diehards are holding on for March 1, when the new regime led by Russian David Traktovenko takes control of the club.

The new owners face an in-tray of issues to be resolved if the club is to make progress once more.

Director Scott Barlow, Traktovenko's son-in-law, will in effect be running the club, and his first headache will be to deal with relations between some of the players and coach John Kosmina.

Whether coincidentally or not, the season's slump on the park began around the time of a team night out in October, when the players were infuriated by the appearance of a journalist shortly after Kosmina.

Friction has grown since then between the coach and a number of players over a variety of issues, to the extent that several have discussed taking a delegation to Barlow to express their displeasure.

It has to be said that Sydney's dressing room has extensive form in this regard, having briefed against all of Kosmina's three predecessors.

But at least two of the squad have contacted North Queensland with a view to a move.

Others feel they are being played out of position and stifled.

They claim Kosmina regularly denigrates the championship Sydney won in 2006. They are also bemused by the strained relations between Kosmina and marquee striker John Aloisi. The players believe Aloisi has been made a scapegoat for the team's failure by club management, no matter that his two goals have so far cost more than $700,000 apiece.

Kosmina, though, has no intention of going anywhere - for all the que sera sera air he has adopted publicly, the coach has worked intensively to convince the new owners he can match their vision.

Offered the chance to respond, Kosmina said he would prefer to wait until the season was over, saying: "We've still got a game to play."

Kemeny, meanwhile, departs next month, and won't be lamented by the players. His brand of take-it-or-leave-it negotiation on contracts was the reason several players are leaving, according to dressing room sources.

"His attitude was that players should want to play for the club, be honoured to," said one.

Kemeny's public criticism of the effort levels of the players leaving at the end of the season caused real anger in the dressing room, especially when one, Robbie Middleby, was subsequently attacked by fans.

"When a team loses they tend to look for a scapegoat," Kemeny retorted yesterday. "We made the best offer we could afford and it wasn't acceptable, therefore negotiations came to an end. They got a better offer, it's no mystery."

Amidst his wholesale changes Kemeny brought in Stefan Kamasz as CEO. Yet insiders say Kemeny's habit of acting as an executive chairman left Kamasz frustrated.

He is however highly regarded by the new regime and can expect to be given extra resources to build on the progress he has made in embedding FC into the football community. In fact there has been the promise of greater funds across the board. There are plans to establish academies across the region within 12 months, and to invest in membership levels.

Most of all there will be a substantial increase in the marketing budget, from which Kemeny was ordered to cut $500,000 - about 85 per cent - by the Lowy family owners.

Barlow will get a sense of the work to do from market research shown to the A-League CEOs last month measuring attitudes to all the teams.

Sydney above all, for all Kamasz's work, still has a major credibility problem in terms of engaging with the fans. The new owners' intray really is overflowing.

players briefing over the head of the coach? players clearly extensively backgrounding journalists too. corica has had involvement with the PFA for quite some time, could have learnt a few things about managing media perceptions around that time, could it be that he's driving a lot of the media stuff? could that be why he's been frozen to the bench of late? colosimo is the president of the PFA, though he's been injured.
 

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