Round 19 - Adelaide United [A]

Discussion in 'Central Coast Mariners FC' started by jacobclear, Feb 10, 2020.


  1. Capn Gus Bloodbeard

    Capn Gus Bloodbeard Well-Known Member

    I think make muzz a "last 20min striker". As that sub he isn't really expected to achieve too much because that heavily depends on the disposition of the game, versus the pressure of carrying the front line for 90min.
    It might allow him to get outside of his head a bit and have a go. Also lets him run at tired defenders.
    And if he comes on if we're 2 nil down, nobody really expects a goal at that point. So a goal becomes a bonus, rather than an expectation (i know I'm understating the role of a sub)
    Though i don't think it's just confidence, but hope I'm wrong.
     
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  2. Ads

    Ads Active Member

    Although nervous, they still moved the ball around better.
    Lots of great sideward balls through the middle.
    Nisbit, Kim and Mcguinley put in the hard yards.
    Every player worked their arse off.

    Problem is they shouldn’t need to work that hard if they had a bit more confidence in possession.

    Harold did diagonal runs!!!!!!
    Wow didn’t know they existed,

    Even Murray was making runs behind the backline but just couldn’t finish.
    Need to save some energy for when you need to make that important shot on goal.

    lots of great possession moving ball just outside their box. Lots of positives but can they keep that intensity up after another loss.
     
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  3. Ads

    Ads Active Member

    *Keep same but bring Rowles into LB if fit.
    *Maybe give Ruiz a chance in for Murray.
    *Murray, Simon & Clisby backup

    But then MC might not like the bigger $$ players sitting on bench or not being used (Duric)

    I think Silvera might have an agreement to get minutes each game as apart of the deal or Mariners want to keep giving him the chance to show his skill on camera to promote him.
     
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  4. Waspish

    Waspish Active Member

    McGlinchey - as much as I have a soft spot for him - has been totally missing in all the games he started for us this season, barring maybe one.
    Last night he returned to his earlier career form and (I'll put this in capitals for emphasis) MAY IT CONSISTENTLY REMAIN. He was excellent until AU worked out he was our fulcrum and pinned him down.

    When they did they committed a man to him. Which left a hole and stretched their defenders who had to rotate to cover for it.
    That was absolutely where we had to take advantage and attack that space, dragging defenders across and switching to keep them moving and stretched. It's like our players didn't recognise this though...or couldn't execute it.
    Otherwise we were excellent, and as I have to say way too much, utterly toothless in front of goals. We deserved to win that game. Weemac deserves another start.
     
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  5. Waspish

    Waspish Active Member

    Yeah - I was happy with the Harold signing and getting happier by the game
     
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  6. Ancient Mariner

    Ancient Mariner Well-Known Member

    I do not think that MC gets that involved. I suspect that is Staj's call with possible suggestions from Anton.

    I forgot to mention Duric in my summation.
    Like last week he is really worrying me. Although he has a tonne of experience and ability. He is till looking too slow and too old . He has looked too slow since he first came here but initially he had the ability to score rockets from the edge of the box. That ability seems to have deserted him.
    If he is carrying an injury, I admire his heart, but it is doing nothing for him, nor the Club, nor his future prospects and he should be getting it fixed.
    He is playing as if he is too old as Anton suggested, which I find strange at a reported age of 29.
    Whatever the reason, he is not fitting in at present.
     
  7. jacobclear

    jacobclear Active Member

    Hopefully the CC Ramble boys can get that sorted for us
     
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  8. greenlig

    greenlig Well-Known Member

    Hot take: Murray cost us the game and will never be an a-league striker.

    bring it.
     
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  9. Jay

    Jay New Member

    Totally agree the advantage wasn’t used with mcglinchey being man marked On a positive was good to see the team play with commitment in the first half. Don’t think mcglinchey has started a game this season before this one.
     
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  10. Michael

    Michael Well-Known Member

    100% fact.
    The bloke is done.
     
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  11. Wombat

    Wombat Well-Known Member

    I was pissed off last night but watched it again and it was a pretty good performance.

    Next week Rowles to LB.
    Jair for Murray.

    Same starting 11 apart from those 2 changes. Kim as Capt.

    3pts Kim
    2pts Ziggy
    1pt WeeMac
     
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  12. Michael

    Michael Well-Known Member

    Agree with everything except would’ve given nizzy 1 point
    Wee Mac was genuinely very good first half, but as soon as he got given some attention I completely forgot he was on the pitch, went missing big time. A player of his experience should know how to deal with that.
     
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  13. Wombat

    Wombat Well-Known Member

    I felt Nizzy gave the ball away too much to get 1pt but he was good.
     
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  14. Insertnamehere

    Insertnamehere Well-Known Member

    Maria was tagging him for a while. Messed with his game.
    Agree with your 3,2,1.
     
  15. turbo

    turbo Well-Known Member

    He’s doing a Troisi, turning up because it’s time to earn a contract
     
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  16. RECKY

    RECKY I'm an idiot savant without the pesky savant bit

    So the missus reckons I was a bit harsh on Muzz, but 5 goals in 35 games for a striker anywhere in the world is a shit stat by anyone's reckoning
     
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  17. turbo

    turbo Well-Known Member

    There’s nothing wrong with cheap tools if you acknowledge what they are but it’s a big problem if you can’t afford high quality ones and expect the cheapies to perform as well or expect to use them all the time. And that’s exactly the issue with Muzz, through poor and under resourced recruiting we’re starting a cheap striker that should be a sub or injury cover who hasn’t been able to do what was asked of him and now his confidence seems shot. That or he’s so used to getting no service the fear of wasting it is paralysing him.

    I’ve got no issues with him being in the squad but we’ve put a big burden on him and it’s not the result of factors we can’t control like really bad luck with injuries.
     
  18. Tevor

    Tevor Well-Known Member

    First away game in Adelaide, will watch the replay when I get home but had a fantastic evening despite the result with plenty of laughs from Josho and the other lads. Also hats off to the bag piper who gave us something extra on the night. Wasn’t expecting such a good away bay and left me with some pride in the club despite not being able to win a game we dominated at times.

    Recommend the AU away game to anyway if they are interested in an interstate game.

    At the airport and plane is delayed, players are catching the same plane.
     
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  19. Insertnamehere

    Insertnamehere Well-Known Member

    Whoops didn't finish that thought before posting... But you've gone where I was going.
     
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  20. pjennings

    pjennings Well-Known Member

    First of all - yes - 5 goals in 35 games for a striker anywhere in the world is a shit stat by anyone's reckoning.

    Yes - you are a bit harsh on Muzz. Bear with me. When Adelaide attacked we didn't know who to shut down. Do you shut down Blackwood, McGree, Halloran, Ospeth or Mileusinic. When we attacked the Adelaide defence knew they just had to shut down Muzz or Harold - or at worst the two of them. Yes he was through on goal but his first touch was crap which let the chance go.

    A simple let's swap this striker for that striker is not going to work unless the swapped in striker is many classes above what we have.

    The squad needs investment. That way when a one of our strikers attacks the defence is worried about not only them but also who is with them.
     
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