CCM Fans and the club

Tim

Member
Hi Shaun

A quick thanks for a terrific family day today. Our two young boys were thrilled to meet the players and get some autographs. In particular, a big thanks to Matt Simon who (after my request) approached our shy 8 years old boy, introduced himself and spent a few mins having a chat with a star struck young lad and made his day! Also, well done to GG and DDS who spent plenty of time playing with the kids on the mini soccer fields. DDS, in particular, stayed and played with the kids for long past the time other players had left, great experience for a bunch of young kids who left as big Danny fans!!! Well done, Shaun, to you and the CCM team!!
 

Forum Phoenix

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Nice to read that Tim. My kids have grown up now - but remember seeing their star struck little eyes on similar events too in the early years.
 
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midfielder

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Shaun

Comment... not a question...

In the broader context of Indy Hal, we have a responsibility to have a quality team... the lack of a striker and apparent lack of funds is hurting...

Across the league, rating are down, memberships massively down, with the promise that once the clubs got in charge things would be different.... MC was one of the biggest movers re Indy Hal.

Indy Hal is trending south, we have just had a 3 year civil war so the clubs could run the competition...

Not only does CCM owe something to its hard core rusted on's... we have been / are in a privileged position, in that we play in a non P & R league, meaning our spot regardless of what we do can't change... plus the promise made once we get control the difference will be huge...

Indy Hal will struggle for a future media deal, Fox want out and no commercial will go near us...

I find it beyond disappointing and quite sad that we where one of the big pushers behind creating Indy Hal yet we still won't invest ... seemingly wanting others to do the heavy lifting....

There is only so long you can live on past glories...

Hal is not that old and many who are here and have been here come from other teams and other codes ... its not Europe and you can't demand respect you need to command it ...

I want Football to succeed in Australia... what we are doing will not help that in fact be counter to that... we have a broadcast deal on the ABC and at best two years to turn it around...

Shaun, I can only hope we are prepared to pull our wait, and help grow Football, rather than being what I see as a feeder of what others are doing...

Sermon over...
 

turbo

Well-Known Member
There has to be a business case for spending on a striker. Without some improvements on the pitch we’re likely to keep going backwards. We’ve got memberships listed at 255 for a GA Navy so I’ll use that figure, early birds will be cheaper but reserved seating more expensive so it likely balances out somewhere there.

If we drop 500 members because we make the same mistakes in underinvestment that’s 127k less coming in. I don’t think that’s too pessimistic and you’ll have trends you can review in house. If we sell 500 less tickets per game that’s 6500 less people through the gate over the season, let’s assume we see $15 on average from those tickets, that’s 97k. Not stopping the slide could plausibly cost us over 220k.

But what if we spent the funds and not only stopped the slide but reversed the trend and added that many members and people through the gate. I’d even say that possibility is underestimating the people that could come back. We would by the same numbers add 220k to our income so we’ve gone from another rubbish season continuing the trend to a moderately successful one and a difference of around 440k. I’ve deliberately not speculated on the sponsorship implications of not being a basket case and the savings that might come from not needing to overspend to compete with other mid table sizes for the same players.

Surely the numbers add up and there’s someone capable we can get for that kind of money.
 

scottmac

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From all accounts if they're to be believed they are looking yeah? They have the spot and are actively looking to full it but haven't committed to it being a striker. Stajics words were "the best fit" weren't they?
 

Forum Phoenix

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Yep. Seemed that what Staj was saying between the lines was, we can't get a striker you would want for the money we have at this time of year and given our recent history.
 

pjennings

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Hi Shaun

There are renewed reports that the Chinese owner of the Newcastle Jets, Martin Lee, would like to sell the team after running short of money due to his Ledman Optoelectronic Group being hit by the trade war with the US

If true - how would this work under the new HAL arrangement..

1) Does the Newcastle license stay in Newcastle?
2) Can Canberra *the next identified" team put in a bid for it and move the license to Canberra?

TBH I want to be adding teams - not moving them.
 
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AuzDutchy

Active Member
Well somebody has to have it - why do you think we get a say in that?
Because it seems like the draw has been altered and re-altered to suit teams objecting to certain aspects of it, so surely CCM have approved the current draw.

The club could have at least made a point about it, telling us they've accepted X Y & Z fixtures to allow us to have fixtures A B & C be on more agreeable dates/times. If we've been given the bye followed by last game of the round, but in turn we got a better NYE fixture/better sunday kick offs then suddenly its easier to handle as a fan
 

turbo

Well-Known Member
It's not really an issue in the big picture is it? You're never going to get the early game playing Perth at home. That takes 2 of 5 slots per round out of the equation right away and then they need to look at ground availability and other factors for the other 3 slots. You won't be happy then when we have our second bye before round 10.
 

Shaun Mielekamp

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Hi Shaun

There are renewed reports that the Chinese owner of the Newcastle Jets, Martin Lee, would like to sell the team after running short of money due to his Ledman Optoelectronic Group being hit by the trade war with the US

If true - how would this work under the new HAL arrangement..

1) Does the Newcastle license stay in Newcastle?
2) Can Canberra *the next identified" team put in a bid for it and move the license to Canberra?

TBH I want to be adding teams - not moving them.
I am not sure what is in the Newcastle License if it stipulates that they must remain in Newcastle. The FFA/A-League does have the right to dictate where games are and are not played, so hard to really say if that would be an option for Martin lee or not to relocate but I highly doubt anyone thinks not having a team in Newcastle is a good idea.
 

Shaun Mielekamp

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How does the club agree to/allow us to have a bye followed by the last game of the round ???
The club does not have the ability to approve or reject the draw and dates issued for the bye. We have the opportunity to make recommendations and provide feedback. We made 10 requests and only had two accepted being NYE which we always have to request and Jets as first home game.
 

AuzDutchy

Active Member
The club does not have the ability to approve or reject the draw and dates issued for the bye. We have the opportunity to make recommendations and provide feedback. We made 10 requests and only had two accepted being NYE which we always have to request and Jets as first home game.

Fair enough. Thanks
 

Kripple

New Member
Shaun. Thanks for the information. I would be interested to know what the 8 requests were that were not accepted. Do you receive feedback on the 'success rate' of other clubs requests?
 

midfielder

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Shaun

Rumours floating around that the council is seriously considering giving a long term lease of the stadium...

Anything in the rumours or can you give an update...
 

turbo

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Shaun

Rumours floating around that the council is seriously considering giving a long term lease of the stadium...

Anything in the rumours or can you give an update...
The article was paywalled but someone reposted it:
The Central Coast Mariners hope to be running their own stadium by the beginning of next season, after local council chiefs received a key report that recommends they hand Central Coast Stadium over to a private operator.

On Wednesday Mariners CEO Shaun Mielekamp will submit the club’s formal proposal to become the first A-League team running its own ground, in a move he said would change the economics of the club — and secure its future in Gosford.

Central Coast councillors were briefed on Monday on the contents of a report into the future of the stadium by consultants KPMG, which it’s believed recommends its management be outsourced to a private operator.

Though the council is likely to seek “expressions of interest” for the tender, the Mariners are confident their proposal – which includes establishing a W-League team, creating retail outlets around the stadium’s perimeter and using it as a concert venue – will present a compelling case.

Negotiations are likely to last for months, but Mielekamp is hoping to have assumed the management rights in time for the next A-League and W-League seasons, opening up a wide range of income sources.

Though Mariners owner Mike Charlesworth has previously sought to assume the rights to run the stadium, the KPMG report is believed to recommend a change of policy by council that opens the way for private operators.

It’s not a huge ground but it could have a massive impact on the club. Under the plan, the Mariners would pay council an annual fee, and after investing in its infrastructure, would be able to leverage the stadium to raise extra revenue.

The proposal aims to open the precinct up to public use, removing the black gates round the ground and establishing a pop-up restaurant precinct along one side modelled on Brisbane’s successful Eat Street area of eateries in shipping containers.

After The Daily Telegraph revealed last week that Charlesworth had received proposals from consortiums in Canberra and Brisbane to buy the club and relocate it, Mielekamp said securing the stadium management rights would end any discussion about the future of the club.

Making the most of the location could help the Mariners reconnect with local fans. “It’s our understanding that the council is preparing to call for expressions of interest for management rights of Central Coast Stadium, and as a club we are interested in exploring this opportunity and are preparing our formal proposal,” he said.

“Obtaining management rights would be a positive step forward for the club and the community, ensuring the long-term future of the Mariners on the Central Coast.

“Our submission to council will be a collaborative approach from partnerships we have formed with brands that are industry leaders with vast experience in the sports and entertainment landscape.

“Management rights could be the catalyst for us to move forward with our W-League program and signal our readiness to join the competition next season.

“For the Mariners, this submission is about taking away the black gates at the stadium and making the venue accessible for the community seven days per week.

“The club has developed a strategy to create a vibrant entertainment precinct that will provide local jobs, attract more visitors and activate the city centre with a greater and more diverse calendar of events.”
 

Waspish

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This would be so valuable to our club and region. Huge opportunities to increase revenue would definitely help us even up the money we can spend on the squad relative to other teams.
Perhaps as important is the ability of the club to turn the location and game events into culturally valuable, identity embedding Central Coast exposures. If we can get as many people feeling like 'we' are the central coast, and that CCM is 'us' - basically if people identify themselves as being the community and club together as 'we' then we have a long term future
 
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