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What's happening with the Academy

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Also heard thats where the future W-League team is going to be based. Will be called Central Coast Mariners though but based at North Sydney
 

dibo

Well-Known Member
It might surprise some that I hold this view, but I think there's some merit to having several different NPL (or aspiring NPL) clubs bearing the Mariners brand - Central Coast, Northern Suburbs, Western NSW, etc. They're simply extensions from a core, or put another way, tributaries feeding the talent pool.

The W-League team being based in the northern suburbs is a good marketing tool and having the NYL side based there too wouldn't be a terrible idea, if only for the reason that there are something like 800,000 people and 45,000 registered players in that region and that will be a key drawing area for talent who *won't* be full-time pros, so will likely be living in Sydney and working/studying in Sydney too.

It makes the decision to play for the Mariners an easier one to make, and if the players get full-time contracts (in the case of NYL players moving into the HAL squad) we could expect them to move to the Coast, or if the programs become fully professional we can expect the players and team as a whole to move to the Coast.

It makes a helluva lot more sense than moving HAL games to substandard venues like NSO or Brookvale.
 

Capt. Awesome

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It might surprise some that I hold this view, but I think there's some merit to having several different NPL (or aspiring NPL) clubs bearing the Mariners brand - Central Coast, Northern Suburbs, Western NSW, etc. They're simply extensions from a core, or put another way, tributaries feeding the talent pool.

The W-League team being based in the northern suburbs is a good marketing tool and having the NYL side based there too wouldn't be a terrible idea, if only for the reason that there are something like 800,000 people and 45,000 registered players in that region and that will be a key drawing area for talent who *won't* be full-time pros, so will likely be living in Sydney and working/studying in Sydney too.

It makes the decision to play for the Mariners an easier one to make, and if the players get full-time contracts (in the case of NYL players moving into the HAL squad) we could expect them to move to the Coast, or if the programs become fully professional we can expect the players and team as a whole to move to the Coast.

It makes a helluva lot more sense than moving HAL games to substandard venues like NSO or Brookvale.

Will the Central Coast Academy run by CCF still hold the Mariners name next year?
 

scottmac

Suspended
Not on your life.

I agree with dibo. It makes absolute sense to be associated with aspiring npl clubs. If the connection with ccf to run the Academy hasn't worked why not find another way. It shouldn't stop the effort of the club to achieve the desired result. In fact it's probably only the next phase started early.
 

Bladesman

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As much as we would all love local talent in the team how many local juniors have come through the system, Matt Simon? Leveraging the talent pools in Sydney make absolute sense, just look where the European teams have academy's, all round the world so us having one in Sydney is no big deal.
 
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Capt. Awesome

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Here is something I haven't seen mentioned yet. I don't know why.

Moss seems to state here there will be 5 CCM Academies. Did I miss this somewhere along the line or is this new?

"Part of that was the academy, with a primary set-up on the Coast – and satellites elsewhere. We already have an affiliation with Western New South Wales, which now runs teams called the Western Mariners – and we intend to have other satellites in key areas like Bathurst, Mudgee, Orange and Sydney too, run under Andrew Fearnley, who is employed by Football New South Wales."

Source : http://www.foxsports.com.au/footbal...lusive-interview/story-e6frf4gl-1227080429379
 

rbakersmith

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Here is something I haven't seen mentioned yet. I don't know why.

Moss seems to state here there will be 5 CCM Academies. Did I miss this somewhere along the line or is this new?

"Part of that was the academy, with a primary set-up on the Coast – and satellites elsewhere. We already have an affiliation with Western New South Wales, which now runs teams called the Western Mariners – and we intend to have other satellites in key areas like Bathurst, Mudgee, Orange and Sydney too, run under Andrew Fearnley, who is employed by Football New South Wales."

Source : http://www.foxsports.com.au/footbal...lusive-interview/story-e6frf4gl-1227080429379

I don't think it's really going to be 5 academies; rather what you'll see is something like this:
  • Central Coast Academy - whether that's run by CCM, CCF or both
  • Western NSW Academy - run by WNSW Football in collaboration with CCM, with the main program based in Bathurst with satellite programs running in Mudgee/Orange etc
  • Northern Sydney Academy - run by Northbridge FC in collaboration with CCM
 

dibo

Well-Known Member
Yep, and that's pretty smart really. Over time, all NPL clubs will likely develop A-League affiliations and the tentacles will spread widely.
 

Capt. Awesome

Well-Known Member
I don't think it's really going to be 5 academies; rather what you'll see is something like this:
  • Central Coast Academy - whether that's run by CCM, CCF or both
  • Western NSW Academy - run by WNSW Football in collaboration with CCM, with the main program based in Bathurst with satellite programs running in Mudgee/Orange etc
  • Northern Sydney Academy - run by Northbridge FC in collaboration with CCM

Yeah sorry misread that but the question is still valid. Is this new thing or has have I missed something. It explains the Northbridge situation and looks to be a very exciting development.
 

rbakersmith

Well-Known Member
https://www.facebook.com/cqmarinersfc

or is it just a coincidence of same name?

I'm not sure, they're claiming some sort of connection (emphasis mine):

We will be also responsible for the identification of talented players who will be selected for State trials as they compete for places in the Queensland State teams for each age group. We see ourselves as a feeder club for A-League clubs and we have coaching connections with the Central Coast Mariners and the Brisbane Roar through our Director of Coaching and Head Coach Joe Fenech. We also by virtue of the NPL have connection to the highest level of football – the FFA.
 

radar

Well-Known Member
Northbridge have a nice little set-up, artificial surface (a la Cromer) and plenty of numbers. If there's Academy games to watch there I will defo be front and centre
 

rbakersmith

Well-Known Member
The North Shore Mariners Academy:

NEWS: Central Coast Mariners announce Northbridge FC partnership

Central Coast Mariners today announced an historic agreement with Northbridge FC, Australia’s largest community football club, to establish a youth development academy on Sydney’s North Shore.
The Mariners will substantially extend their youth development footprint to jointly set up the North Shore Mariners Academy, which will be based at Northbridge FC.

Mr Michael Charlesworth, Mariners Chairman and Owner said: “Today marks the beginning of a vision we share with Northbridge FC to bring excellence and accessibility to youth football development at the highest level to young people across northern Sydney.”

“Our goal is to be in the top 100 development clubs in the world by the next FIFA World Cup in Russia in 2018. The partnership with Northbridge FC is the kick-start of a revitalised program. It has included us setting up a state-wide scouting network, plus appointing a Head of Youth Football (Stu Jacobs) and Head of Junior Development (Rui Tomé).”

The latest move by the yellow and navy will create a strong presence for the North Shore Mariners Academy in the extensive player growth areas of northern Sydney from early 2015. It will allow Central Coast Mariners to directly impart the Club’s junior development philosophy on greater numbers of male and female players, influence their progression as footballers, and expand the club’s brand across the region.

The North Shore Mariners Academy will be administered by Northbridge FC, and will provide kids from Skills Acquisition Program (SAP) through to senior ranks in men’s and women’s competitions the opportunity to represent the 2013 Hyundai A-League Champions.

Mr Rory Grace, President of the Northbridge FC, said: “This is an amazing opportunity that will provide youth from across the North Shore with access to the best coaches in Australia. It will also create an unmatched pathway to high-performance football and a great opportunity to further educate our own coaches.”

The Mariners will place a strong emphasis on coach education in the program. Indeed, the mentors selected to oversee the North Shore Mariners Academy will be trained in the club’s coaching style and philosophy, based on Football Federation Australia’s national curriculum.

“The announcement of the North Shore Mariners Academy is the first of three fresh youth development agreements we are likely to unveil in coming weeks, Mr Charlesworth added. “Our club has long held an association with Western NSW Football, and we believe we will be able to share news of a new youth development agreement with them shortly.”

“We are also in discussions with Central Coast Football, and particular their Football Manager, Ken Schembri, regarding how we can best work together to influence their academy pathway for the benefit of all footballers on the Central Coast. As with Northbridge FC and Western NSW Football, we believe we will be able to detail positive news on that front soon. It is, of course, imperative that the Mariners continue to have a big and positive influence on junior development on the Central Coast,” he said.

Central Coast Mariners have been widely lauded within the Hyundai A-League community as the club that shows a genuine commitment to developing Australia’s best young talent. Mr Charlesworth expects this reputation to be enhanced by these latest developments.

“Our record of transitioning talented youth from the Foxtel National Youth League level to the Hyundai A-League and beyond is second to none. We believe the youth developments we are announcing will keep us at the forefront of this field for many years to come,” Charlesworth concluded.

On the North Shore Mariners Academy, Central Coast Mariners Head of Youth Football, Stu Jacobs, said: “We are delighted to have Northbridge FC as part of our youth and junior development structure. Our aim as an organisation is to produce the best young footballers in Australia. To now include Northbridge FC within our programs will enhance this. It will give our technical staff the opportunity to work with and develop some of the best young footballers within North Sydney which we believe will complement the quality we are producing on the Central Coast.”

The Club’s collaboration with Northbridge FC, in addition to planned formal development agreements with Central Coast Football and Western NSW Football, would mean that the Mariners would be able to draw from approximately 75,000 registered male and female footballers in its catchment areas.

As such, the prospects for the Club to not only recruit some of the state’s best talent for its high-level pathways, but also increase its fan base, membership levels and promote interest in the club and the Hyundai A-League is considerable.

Northbridge FC is recognised as a model Football Federation Australia club, building the future through youth development and community connection. Their ultimate objective is to play a leading role in the youth development in Australian football through assisting its players to develop skills, technique and game awareness so they have the ability to achieve their full potential, and ultimately represent Australia’s senior national teams.
 

dibo

Well-Known Member
I fear for our local boys.
CCMFC and CCF clearly need to sort the issues with the Central Coast based academy, but it's pretty obvious that that will be seen to be part of the pathway, but I really don't see how a non-exclusive deal with Northbridge hurts local boys. Is it because there will be more players brought into the pathway? Let's flip it round the other way; would *closing* the Western NSW Mariners Academy improve prospects for local players?
 

shelleybeach

Active Member
provided there are genuine linkages and opportunities to share facilities and coaching etc this sounds like a really shrewd move to expand the Mariners 'catchment' and just increase the profile of the club all round
 

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