Mariners Squad - 2019-2020

[Insertnamehere]

It's probably just inexperience on my part but I don't really get the thinking around this whole attractiveness of the club thing. It's been discussed every preseason and clearly it's real but... look at our team the last for seasons... every decent player we've had had been snatched up first chance. This thing about them not being in the shopfront clearly isn't right.

Wins and losses. Noone wants to get flogged every week. It's bad enough in social sport let alone as a professional.
Also people want to come to work and focus on their job not all the shit because the boss can't run the joint properly.

 

[Big Al]

Only another 5 months of nothing to go

 

[Capn Gus Bloodbeard]

It's probably just inexperience on my part but I don't really get the thinking around this whole attractiveness of the club thing. It's been discussed every preseason and clearly it's real but... look at our team the last for seasons... every decent player we've had had been snatched up first chance. This thing about them not being in the shopfront clearly isn't right.

The players are fine - it's the club that's unattractive.

I mean, given the choice, do you want to play for a club that's getting smashed every week with no fans left, or a club that has a chance of something useful and where you play alongside some great players?

Yeh that's valid, I feel like we move at such a slow pace compared to the other clubs. I guess the dislocated control is a factor.

No surprise....though are we sure we haven't told Staj ' I totally promise there's a contract, and it totally has just as much money as the next contract somebody else would offer. I totally remember posting it, just hold on...'?

 

[JoyfulPenguin]

It's a real organisational failure that we move so slowly on things that are so critical, if Alan Stajic is going to be our manager he needs time and certainty. It's frankly embarrassing that it is taking this long to confirm whether he has a contract or not, we need to be focusing and getting organised for next season not banal stuff like this. We need to be one of the most active clubs in the transfer period and not having a manger signed is absolutely not helping that.

 

[JoyfulPenguin]

Wouldn't mind Caletti and maybe trials for Nigro, Babalj and Tongyik. We need players with the right attitude, year after year we sign players with the almighty "potential" but we never seem to analyze their respective mental states and who actually has the motivation and will to improve and succeed. We can't afford more players like Gamerio, De Silva, Hoole, McCormack, Skapetis, Stella, Caceras, Anderson, Austin who are seemingly satisfied with their current level and who won't deliver and develop a culture that helps those around them. Most importantly we need players who will systemically change the way we go about things every day, who will put in their all at training no matter what and will be a positive influence on their teammates.

 

[true believer]

the club is on a tipping point with membership . i didn't want to renew .
i was out voted 3 to 1 . if the club balls up staj signing then i'll dig my heals in .

how do you turn a legendary club into a farce ? give it to the pikey and wait 2 years .

 

[nebakke]

The players are fine - it's the club that's unattractive.

I mean, given the choice, do you want to play for a club that's getting smashed every week with no fans left, or a club that has a chance of something useful and where you play alongside some great players?

Oh for sure... If you're offered starting position somewhere like Perth this season, vs starting position for us, of course you'd go to Perth.
But if you're offered bench-space at Perth vs first-team ball for us, the smart option would arguably be to start for us...
I'm not saying the two are equal, I'm saying that the way it is talked about both amongst fans and in the press, makes it sound like nobody sane would come to any of the last-four clubs - I think that's an exaggeration...
We're definitely on the nose, that's understandable, but if we can't sell the obvious advantages to at least starting and playing, it's concerning.

 

[pjennings]

Realistically there are only 110 first team outfield spots for next year. Potentially 55 of those will be foreigners. There are plenty of good players here in the HAL and youth as well as os to do better than we all have at the moment.

 

[garlo]

Would take Caletti and in all honesty unless he is retiring I would take De Vere! Strong CB with leadership - been a thorn in our side many times

 

[Antlion]

It's a real organisational failure that we move so slowly on things that are so critical, if Alan Stajic is going to be our manager he needs time and certainty. It's frankly embarrassing that it is taking this long to confirm whether he has a contract or not, we need to be focusing and getting organised for next season not banal stuff like this. We need to be one of the most active clubs in the transfer period and not having a manger signed is absolutely not helping that.

I hear the coach isn't locked down quite yet while some other (very good) options are on the table. Should know fairly soon.

I'll be happy with Staj but if they delay slightly to go better then I won't hold that against them. I strongly suspect Staj will be confirmed this week and then we'll start seeing player movements

 

[Michael]

I’d take Devere as one of the starting CB’s. But as with any signing from here on out they have to come here with the perfect attitude for us.
Don’t think I’d take Caletti tbh, He’s always had wraps on him but I haven’t been overly impressed. We have Nisbet as our youth CM that we can develop.

 

[MrCelery]

Ex-Jest players now on the market:

Ronald Vargas - midfielder
Daniel Georgievski - full-back
Jair - striker
Nick Cowburn - utility
Jake Adelson
Kwabena Appiah

 

[Insertnamehere]

I would only look at jair, Vargas and beautheac of those who've been released. Even then those are maybes.
I'd rather we signed some of our own youth then look to blokes overseas who are in lower leagues.
Armenakas, piscopo, mcdougall etc. They may be happy to stay there but gotta try to upgrade.

 

[Insertnamehere]

I’d take Devere as one of the starting CB’s. But as with any signing from here on out they have to come here with the perfect attitude for us.
Don’t think I’d take Caletti tbh, He’s always had wraps on him but I haven’t been overly impressed. We have Nisbet as our youth CM that we can develop.

too injury prone. was good until about 25.

 

[Coastalraider]

Oh for sure... If you're offered starting position somewhere like Perth this season, vs starting position for us, of course you'd go to Perth.
But if you're offered bench-space at Perth vs first-team ball for us, the smart option would arguably be to start for us...
I'm not saying the two are equal, I'm saying that the way it is talked about both amongst fans and in the press, makes it sound like nobody sane would come to any of the last-four clubs - I think that's an exaggeration...
We're definitely on the nose, that's understandable, but if we can't sell the obvious advantages to at least starting and playing, it's concerning.

I understand your point, and agree a little as well, but the end result to this theory is that we only recruit players who would be bench players at other teams, based on the ‘carrot’ of getting game time.

That’s actually what we have been doing, and the result is we are crap, because there is a reason those players spend time in the bench everywhere else.

We need to break the cycle and recruit players who would actually get game time at top 6 clubs, and those players don’t want to come to the spooners.

 

[Forum Phoenix]

It's a real organisational failure that we move so slowly on things that are so critical, if Alan Stajic is going to be our manager he needs time and certainty. It's frankly embarrassing that it is taking this long to confirm whether he has a contract or not, we need to be focusing and getting organised for next season not banal stuff like this. We need to be one of the most active clubs in the transfer period and not having a manger signed is absolutely not helping that.

Agree we need to sign our manager ASAP. But hearing rumours that there could be some other considerations, so I don’t think it’s simply a case of the club acting slowly,

 

[Forum Phoenix]

I hear the coach isn't locked down quite yet while some other (very good) options are on the table. Should know fairly soon.

I'll be happy with Staj but if they delay slightly to go better then I won't hold that against them. I strongly suspect Staj will be confirmed this week and then we'll start seeing player movements

This.

 

[Forum Phoenix]

Would take Caletti and in all honesty unless he is retiring I would take De Vere! Strong CB with leadership - been a thorn in our side many times

De Vere is still a great age at 29 and I’ve always rated him.

 

[Forum Phoenix]

too injury prone. was good until about 25.

Bugger. Haven’t followed his ins and outs

 

[Forum Phoenix]

I understand your point, and agree a little as well, but the end result to this theory is that we only recruit players who would be bench players at other teams, based on the ‘carrot’ of getting game time.

That’s actually what we have been doing, and the result is we are crap, because there is a reason those players spend time in the bench everywhere else.

We need to break the cycle and recruit players who would actually get game time at top 6 clubs, and those players don’t want to come to the spooners.

Yep, this is the quandary that only money can solve I think.