Let's talk about 2014/15 Other A-League Games

[VicMariner]

What's happening here? At Coopers? Gombau OUT NOW!

Adelaide Utd 1 Wellington Phoenix 3

Phoenix look like the real deal this season. Merrick is a quality manager.

I'm still not convinced with Perth. I can see them start to move down the table. It will be interesting to see how they go against Victory on Friday.

 

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Phoenix look like the real deal this season. Merrick is a quality manager.

I'm still not convinced with Perth. I can see them start to move down the table. It will be interesting to see how they go against Victory on Friday.

WP are certainly up there. I didn't rate them top 6 before the season started. But then, what would I know!
PG? Well, they do have that salary cap problem hanging over their heads, and that may have an effect on their team. More to come re that, but it depends just how quickly FFA do their investigation, quickly I hope because the uncertainty needs to be killed.

 

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Speaking of Perth, have a gander at this: http://www.gloryshed.com.au/tourofduty
How good is that a promo for all those wealthy Perth PG fans to come over here and support their club. Kudos go to the Glory Shed for that, noice, I'm impressed.

 

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Suck it up Arnie! No amount of whingeing will change the scorecard.

 

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I am surprised that coaches in Football are allowed ( ? ) to be so publicly critical of the on field officialdom and their game day decisions. In other sports the coach would be fined heavily, disciplined, warned, castigated etc. by the governing bodies. I just find it odd.

 

[MagpieMariner]

When I was a young bloke my old coach had a saying: "If you lose because of one umpiring error, then you weren't bloody good enough." In general he was dead right. Take note Arnie.

 

[MagpieMariner]

Having now looked at the highlights, SFC had so many chances they should have wrapped it up well before HT. So it's really no good complaining about the "off-side" Arnie, your mob just weren't good enough. Blame your players for incompetence, not the officials.

 

[VicMariner]

That disallowed Janko goal was a corker though.

A uncertain offside decision is supposed to go in favour of the attacking team. Janko was on side so how could the ref be certain he wasn't?
However, if the refs give an offside goal an onside call...the other coach is going to complain.
Damned if they do, damned if they don't but more goals is better for the neutral audience.

 

[MagpieMariner]

As a Mariner supporter though, I was very satisfied with the result.

 

[Capn Gus Bloodbeard]

That disallowed Janko goal was a corker though.

A uncertain offside decision is supposed to go in favour of the attacking team. Janko was on side so how could the ref be certain he wasn't?
However, if the refs give an offside goal an onside call...the other coach is going to complain.
Damned if they do, damned if they don't but more goals is better for the neutral audience.

Try refereeing a match. You can be certain about something but still be wrong.

Anyway, decision looked correct to me.

http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2015/01/04/arnold-wants-video-technology-after-slamming-refs

There's a graphical overlay. While it's still a bit inconclusive (I don't think that sort of image, particularly from that angle, will show if there's just a few inches in it - for that level of closeness, the AR would have the better view), it looks to me like the feet are level, but the Sydney player is leaning towards the goal (while the defenders, if anything, are leaning the other way). Offside can be any part of the body except the arms, so that's offside.

Not like Arnold would have the foggiest idea if it was offside of not from the dugouts.
He should certainly be dealt with harshly for his petulent outburst.

 

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Ahhh, yesss, still BOTT where they belong. Anyone know a good wood carver? We can let them know.

 

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And what a goal by Carl Valeri. Worth watching highlights for that.

 

[sydmariner]

and we all think that the scum are shit

 

[Big Al]

Kalmar goal was great. He went to celebrate with the RBB then stopped about the 6 yard box and went ahh don't really know you guys I'm only new. Think ill stop here and turn around before I get in a fight.
Loved Zelic going off about Valeri goal. Said to the misses if some one heard him going off and then you told them it was over a football goal they laugh.
MV were out played.

 

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MV were out played.

My sig. line used to say something like " no matter how pretty the strategy it is occasionally a good idea to consider the results"

 

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Suck it up Arnie! No amount of whingeing will change the scorecard.

And a very contrite Arnie cops a $5k. bite out of his wallet.
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/...record-fine-for-outburst-20150115-12qzlh.html

 

[dibo]

For what it's worth, Arnie was right and the ref was wrong.

 

[Big Al]

For what it's worth, Arnie was right and the ref was wrong.

That's what I don't get about all these politically correct leagues. Afl Nrl a league.
They want coaches and players in front of media but don't dare bag the refs or the organisation no matter how wrong they are and even though the press will say so but no not the coaches and players who's jobs just got effected by those decisions. Then they wonder why we get darius boyds or greg popoviches.

 

[nearlyyellow]

There is an FFA procedure to protest on field decisions, is there not? That procedure won't change the on field ruling, but the official concerned can be (ahem) counseled, or maybe even his immediate career path may be reorganised for him. imho abusing the officials on field decisions in post match pressers is not a good look, serving to perhaps "bring the game into disrepute" or "belittle, defame etc" the good name of the official/s and the game. Ammunition for the MSM!
imho

 

[dibo]

NY - I agree with you, but it's qualified agreement. It's hard for a coach to be asked about an obvious error and stonewall in a post match presser.

Perhaps the preferred option is that when asked about an incident he say "I will be taking that up with the referees' boss after the game", and when pressed on what he will say he replies "That will be between me and the referees' boss" and close it off that way, but eventually frustration bursts out of people.

FWIW, I agree with the fine, but sometimes I reckon as fans we want to see that the coaches are as frustrated as us. This is the whole passion vs rationality bit playing out...