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FFA Cup 2019

FFC Mariner

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I took some positives out of this.
Adelaide will expect to be top 6, possibly top 4 and as such was a good test of where we are right now.
They were a better side than us all round and (until Simon had his brain snap) we matched them.
I thought DDS and Silvera cant play in the same side (I'd pick Silvera at 10 TBH), Murray isnt the striker we need and Simon must be replaced immediately.
Last season we would have been 3 down at HT.
We wont win it or maybe even make the top 6 without a striker, but we sure as hell wont be last
For anyone blaming the ref for Simons 2nd yellow, he cut the bloke and went in with a swinging arm. Stupid
 

scottmac

Suspended
As much as watching us snatch defeat from the jaws of victory hurt, what made it all the more painful was having to be sat right behind the Chief Scummer and his grub of a Henchman.

Especially after the shitty stunt they pulled unfurling a Jets banner in our stadium.

So come on Shaun, what is the club going to do about that?
Lawrie got away with that? Wow.
 

turbo

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Just watched a replay and there is no foul by Simon at all for second yellow, ref ballsed it up big time
Elsey was bleeding afterwards. The angle might not have been great but can we really say there was nothing in it?
 

scottmac

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I took some positives out of this.
Adelaide will expect to be top 6, possibly top 4 and as such was a good test of where we are right now.
They were a better side than us all round and (until Simon had his brain snap) we matched them.
I thought DDS and Silvera cant play in the same side (I'd pick Silvera at 10 TBH), Murray isnt the striker we need and Simon must be replaced immediately.
Last season we would have been 3 down at HT.
We wont win it or maybe even make the top 6 without a striker, but we sure as hell wont be last
For anyone blaming the ref for Simons 2nd yellow, he cut the bloke and went in with a swinging arm. Stupid
DDS and Silvera will be great together. Silvera has a brilliant pass on him as does DDS when he hits them early. With Kim and Milan feeding and with a proper 9 infront, they will cause havoc together.
As for tonight. If we had Kim then Simon would have disappeared at the 60 Murray moved forward and all would have ended well.
But as is our finances, everything hinges on one player because the manager doesn't have the confidence in our second string when it's on the line.
 

Capn Gus Bloodbeard

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Not the first time we've been on here saying 'our captain lost us the game'
As much as watching us snatch defeat from the jaws of victory hurt, what made it all the more painful was having to be sat right behind the Chief Scummer and his grub of a Henchman.

Especially after the shitty stunt they pulled unfurling a Jets banner in our stadium.

So come on Shaun, what is the club going to do about that?
Wait, what's this?
 

marinermick

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He had less than 1 minute from Simon's idiotic second yellow to the equalizer. After that you need to score and there was nothing on the bench.
We've blamed the coach for the last 5 yrs. It's not his this time. It's purely Simon's

Coach picks the bench and you make the sub on a striker while on a yellow.

What’s your explanation for the lack of subs?
 

Wombat

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As much as watching us snatch defeat from the jaws of victory hurt, what made it all the more painful was having to be sat right behind the Chief Scummer and his grub of a Henchman.

Especially after the shitty stunt they pulled unfurling a Jets banner in our stadium.

So come on Shaun, what is the club going to do about that?

What banner? Tell me more.
 

Wombat

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Pikey really needs to spend the money on a decent 9. He will get the investment back as we will play in front of 10k crowds and be a top 5 side with a striker.
 

scottmac

Suspended
Coach picks the bench and you make the sub on a striker while on a yellow.

What’s your explanation for the lack of subs?
Agree Simon should have come off but it's a hard decision to make without a genuine goal threat on the pine.
Just as much as he should have come off, he should have played smarter & not given the ref the chance to send him off. He's the captain and jumping into a challenge up 1-0. Take a defensive position and chase the second ball in defence FFS.
Yes the coach picks the bench. You say that like he had better choices. Please enlighten me as to who should have been on the bench?
 

Capt. Awesome

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Fault with this one lies in Stajcic’s tactics last twenty.

Simon on yellow. Sub him

Simon gets red. You get Oar off and put a more defensive player in Nisbet or even McGlinchey on.

Not one single sub is criminal with players like Oar, DDS and Silvera so gassed.

Deer in headlights performance by coach when it heated up.
This was exactly my thoughts. That was the most incompetent coaching performance I have ever seen. Terrible.
 

Forum Phoenix

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Both of Simon's cards were clear bullshit, and I think the 2nd was just unfortunate - barely even a foul, and there was no malice or anything there.
But the first one showed why he's not captain material. Now, I still maintain it wasn't a card - but it was a foul, he stepped back and into the opponent.
But he's having argy bargy with him before, he's mouthing off at him in front of the ref, he's chased him across the park - at this point, he has one thing on his mind and that's painfully clear.
So...okay, maybe it's justified as the sort of card where the foul itself wasn't worthy of a card, but that it was clearly the culmination of a few minutes of f**kwittery and intent.
But the captain needs to be better than that. He can't be so immature that he runs around mouthing off at players and chasing them into the box to ruin an attack on a cheap shot.
Simon also needs to realise that every referee despises him. We see him constantly get fouled off the park, nothing - and he only has to look at a player to cop a card.
He needs to be professional and smart enough to realise he can't fight that, so he needs to change his behaviour to be impeccable.

Good post Cap’n.

Every time Matty plays he makes it almost impossible for a referee not to view him as the most combative player on the park. So as soon as players tangle with him or go down under one of his challenges referees either see him as responsible or at least contributing to the issue arising in the first place. Which is why I think the fouls on him so often get over looked.

I like players who play hard and with all their heart. But it’s not battle, it’s a game still, with rules. So your passion must be tempered by your brain. For a player of Matty’s experience, it is disappointing.

God I miss McBreen. There’s a player who could play strong and with a lot of heart, but was always smart.

We need to sign a striker. I know people hate this, but if Berisha comes on in that game, I’d bet good money he doubles our lead and Matty is never sent.

Rode our luck at times but we should have won that one.

Still, so many positives.

But what’s with the zero subs?
 

marinermick

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Agree Simon should have come off but it's a hard decision to make without a genuine goal threat on the pine.
Just as much as he should have come off, he should have played smarter & not given the ref the chance to send him off. He's the captain and jumping into a challenge up 1-0. Take a defensive position and chase the second ball in defence FFS.
Yes the coach picks the bench. You say that like he had better choices. Please enlighten me as to who should have been on the bench?

Majok was there the last match, but better still, at 1-0 up you get a holding midfielder on to stabilise things and have Murray play point. It is not as if we haven’t played 4-2-3-1 before.

Duric is not a six, he is an eight but he worked his bollocks off doing both. He needed extra support in the midfield. Both Nisbet and McGlinchey needed to be subbed on the middle earlier rather than lat..., rather than at all.
 

Forum Phoenix

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Fault with this one lies in Stajcic’s tactics last twenty.

Simon on yellow. Sub him

Simon gets red. You get Oar off and put a more defensive player in Nisbet or even McGlinchey on.

Not one single sub is criminal with players like Oar, DDS and Silvera so gassed.

Deer in headlights performance by coach when it heated up.

Yeah, nailed it for mine. That’s how I saw it.
 

Ozhammer

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What banner? Tell me more.
Check out the #ccmvadl thread to see what he did. When are people going to realise what a classless pr1ck he really is? And to think he spoke at the YA pre-game event and was invited into the the Old Boys lounge too, way to shove it back up our collective asses Lawrie you tosser.
 

scottmac

Suspended
If Simon doesn't cop that second yellow, who knows what happens in the last 18 mins. Untill that time we were the team most likely in the second half. It was literally 1 min to the equalizer. Hind sight is a great thing and some of us here are acting like they called it at half time. This is not on the manager.
 

marinermick

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If Simon doesn't cop that second yellow, who knows what happens in the last 18 mins. Untill that time we were the team most likely in the second half. It was literally 1 min to the equalizer. Hind sight is a great thing and some of us here are acting like they called it at half time. This is not on the manager.

Watch the replay. We were flagging before that. That is probably why Matty was trying to do more.

I was calling out for Oar to be subbed at the sixtieth minute. He stopped running and especially stopped linking with Silvera.

If I could see it then and there why couldn’t the coaches?
 

scottmac

Suspended
Watch the replay. We were flagging before that. That is probably why Matty was trying to do more.

I was calling out for Oar to be subbed at the sixtieth minute. He stopped running and especially stopped linking with Silvera.

If I could see it then and there why couldn’t the coaches?
Trying to do more? Like win an un-winable ball when it wasn't needed by throwing your forearm across the defenders face?
Like i said If he stays on the field you give up the ball there and everyone is already behind it. No backtracking needed. He contests it because he's Matt Simon. We don't need Matt Simon. We need to be rid of Matt Simon. We've all been saying it for months and tonight its lost us the game.
There's been a thousand managers before Staj who've won or drawn games without making a sub.
 
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Forum Phoenix

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How is it the ref ruined that. Matty ruined that by inviting that decision. We've got nothing on the bench to influence that game. Why make a sub when it's not going to be effective.
Silvera Oar Desilva and Milan, even gassed are more effective than mcglinchy or majok.
And I'm guessing that GG was there just in case of emergency as he's not fully fit.

I see that second yellow waived away as non deliberate with a caution regularly. Matty’s elbow isn’t raised or cocked and he didn’t lead with it.

As opposed to jakobsens first one on Silvers which was high and cocked and he led with and yet Evans chose to ignore it entirely.

Most referees, especially in big games, will do the best they can not to send a player already on a yellow unless he absolutely forces their hand.

I really don’t think Evans ‘had to’ send Simon. I think it’s an accident. Can be called a foul. And yeah a ref can even yellow it, but I don’t think he ‘has to’ at all. Imo he should have cautioned him and got on with it. So as it is... I think he ruined the game.
 

scottmac

Suspended
I see that second yellow waived away as non deliberate with a caution regularly. Matty’s elbow isn’t raised or cocked and he didn’t lead with it.

As opposed to jakobsens first one on Silvers which was high and cocked and he led with and yet Evans chose to ignore it entirely.

Most referees, especially in big games, will do the best they can not to send a player already on a yellow unless he absolutely forces their hand.

I really don’t think Evans ‘had to’ send Simon. I think it’s an accident. Can be called a foul. And yeah a ref can even yellow it, but I don’t think he ‘has to’ at all. Imo he should have cautioned him and got on with it. So as it is... I think he ruined the game.
Agree with what you are saying but Simon gives him no choice after his carry on in the first right infront of the ref. He knows that Simon is after him and is basically waiting to give that yellow from then on. Without his reputation or his f**king big mouth he stays on the field after that. But alas, he is Matt Simon. A f**king liability that no longer makes up for it with goals.
 

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