Mariners Squad - HAL 12 - 2016 - 2017

[dibo]

Lets not be deliberately stupid.
Roy is a proven performer. He deserved an upgraded contract.
He is not a Moss state league player or a Tony's cast off bargain.
Lets not let him slip through our fingers.

We all get that Wombat. It's not as simple as "just do it", which I think Roy and his agent also understand, even if some folks on here don't.

 

[scottmac]

Maybe the maximum we can afford right now may not cut it. That's what i take from this. We want to offer more but we don't know how much we have to offer him and get more quality in at the same time. Come on TV deal. Interesting to see that the clubs want 6 mill. We'd have to be fairly sustainable if that was to happen you'd think.

Really hope we get the news soon so we can tie him down.

 

[pjennings]

The fact that any management rights deal has not been completed also complicates the issue. If we knew we had other revenue streams then things might change.

 

[FFC Mariner]

Or we have made Roy an offer and his people are stalling as they dont want to run the risk of the TV money being "more" than everyone thought.

An adjustment clause would fix that

Or he is waiting to see who else we sign and what our ambitions are for next season?

Look pretty stupid when we win it from 6th wont he?

 

[Big Al]

Saw somewhere 2weeks time mentioned as when FFA wI'll tell clubs what the offer is

 

[Big Al]

http://www.fourfourtwo.com.au/news/storm-keen-to-stay-put-451320

Storm leaning towards staying

 

[Wombat]

Good potential. If he ever gets his head around the defending bit he could be a very good player.

 

[neverwozza]

Yep like him as a player but defensively seems to always give the opposition way too much space and rarely gets a block in.

 

[Timmah]

https://twitter.com/Val61/status/834251735765913600

Val Migliaccio Verified account‏ @Val61
Hearing Adelaide United close to signing Paul Izzo from Mariners and Taylor Regan close to extending his contract @TheTiserSport

 

[dibo]

The damage was done last year.

 

[pjennings]

Without a contract on the table, Monty is considering his options

Patrick Boddan & Emma Herd, Central Coast Gosford Express Advocate
February 22, 2017 3:31pm

HE’S the inspirational captain of the league’s littlest club, with more assists, chances created and crosses attempted than any other player in yellow and navy.

And he could be on the way out.

Nick Montgomery is one of a number of important Mariners players coming off contract at season’s end, but like so many of his teammates his future is up in the air.

It could come down to the availability of funds under the new TV rights deal, which remains unconfirmed across the A-League, but waiting could come at the detriment of the club.

“I spoke to the club a while back and I’m still waiting on an answer,” Montgomery told the Express Advocate. “Obviously it’s coming to that time when I will have to start looking at my other options both here and in Asia and even England is a possibility.

media_cameraMontgomery hopes to be able to stay on the Coast beyond this campaign.
“I don’t miss many games or training sessions and I think my performances this season, along with my fitness levels, have never been in question to warrant playing on for another season at least.

“I’ve got a wife and two kids who have just started school, they’re the priority for me. Moving around is not something I do too often.

“My first priority is to stay but, if I have to move, there are some interested parties both here and in Asia.”

The 35-year-old realises his performances on the park could dictate where he plays next season, and his focus for now is the team’s week-to-week improvement.

Despite the 3-0 loss to the Victory, a game in which Montgomery didn’t feature, it’s the sort of attitude that has the Mariners on the cusp of a finals berth.

“With seven games to go there are a lot of points to play for,” he said.

media_cameraThe Mariners are currently ninth on the table, but can jump to seventh with a win in Newcastle. Picture: Mark Scott
“All of a sudden we’re nipping at the heels of those teams just above us and we’re more than capable of going on a run. I think we’ve shown that, when we are on form and play as a team, that we can beat anyone in this league.”

The Englishman sees Sunday’s F3 derby as an opportunity for himself and his uncontracted teammates to put their best foot forward on one of the toughest stages of all.

“It’s been disappointing, to be honest, the last couple of seasons where these matches probably haven’t had as much meaning as they did in the past,” Montgomery said.

“Everything is set up for this to be a massive game and whoever can get a result is going to take a step closer to the top six.

“There are a lot of teams fighting for those spots.”

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...s/news-story/b3c04676f767ac12ed2e26beb3209653

 

[greenlig]

FMD If we lose those three (Monty, Izzo, Roy)...that would be a bitter pill.

 

[Timmah]

Absolutely. I can't see Izzo staying after everything but it would surprise me if Monty or Roy went anywhere.

 

[scottmac]

If izzo does go, he won't be guaranteed 1st Choice anywhere else. Adelaide will be the only team looking for a first choice and only if Eugene goes or retires. He'd be crazy to leave now IMO. If you make your name somewhere why move sideways unless your doing it for game time? It's not like he's the best keeper in aus and can command big money and game time wherever he wants. He's had 2/3's of one good year. I hope he realizes that. Give us another 2 Izzo and you'll be moving OS rather than back to a bench somewhere.

 

[pjennings]

FMD If we lose those three (Monty, Izzo, Roy)...that would be a bitter pill.

Of those off contract the ones we really need to lock in include those 3 and Posco. Unfortunately I think Izzo will go. The treatment he got last year wouldn't help in retaining him but there are forces at work here as well. Paul is an Adelaide boy and there are strong rumours of Eugene to City. He is originally from Melbourne and probably has family there so re-settling there before retirement also makes sense.

The only thing I can think of in in our favour is Okon's relationship with Paul.

 

[Wombat]

Eugene understudy is a muppet. He looks like Izzo last year!!

Roy, Izzo and Monty should all be resigned. It's not rocket science ....even for the brains trust that have run us for the last few years

 

[AuzDutchy]

How hard is it to offer the players contracts including the increase in the TV deal, surely they can sign them on the current monetary terms with a stipulation that whatever the TV deal increases % wise gets adjusted when the TV deal goes through.

Example offer 150k per year now based on the current Tv deal, if the Tv money is a 45% increase, then the salaries reflect that by increasing 45%

 

[Timmah]

Eugene understudy is a muppet. He looks like Izzo last year!!

Roy, Izzo and Monty should all be resigned. It's not rocket science ....even for the brains trust that have run us for the last few years

Out of interest who do you define as 'the brains trust that have run us for the last few years'? Literally the only person left there at a senior level from when we won the championship is Mike himself?

 

[dibo]

How hard is it to offer the players contracts including the increase in the TV deal, surely they can sign them on the current monetary terms with a stipulation that whatever the TV deal increases % wise gets adjusted when the TV deal goes through.

Example offer 150k per year now based on the current Tv deal, if the Tv money is a 45% increase, then the salaries reflect that by increasing 45%

Part of the problem would be that you're basically budgeting for a bunch of players to fill roles at a certain % of salary cap. But the player's dollar value doesn't fluctuate like that.

The cap might be going up by 30%, with a chunk of extra money distributed to fund club expenses, or the entire additional sum might get poured into the cap (which would be monumentally f**king stupid and would basically kill us as a club, but that's a discussion for another place) so the cap rises by 70% or so.

If suddenly you're able to (or really, forced to, because you've got to hit the cap floor and you've got to try to be competitive!) offer $170k rather than $130k for a player, you're going to sign a player worth the extra $40k rather than just hand an extra $40k to the same player. If we *were* to do the latter, unless we had been offering massive unders (in which case the player would likely move elsewhere anyway), we'd be absolute morons.

That's an extreme example obviously, but it illustrates the uncertain position that our club is in.

EDITED: I screwed up my maths

 

[Timmah]

Sadly there are too many who see a headline 'Monty not offered a contract' and start stamping their feet as though it all must be complete now now now.

Monty's manager and he himself are being smart, getting the concept out there and allowing it to be known, and hopefully for Monty's case, driving up his value.