Mariners squad HAL 10 ~ 2014/15

[eenfish]

Welly paying us compo directly will create a worrisome precedent of teams paying off other teams for players when there is a supposed rule of no paid-transfers between clubs.

 

[Big Al]

Not if they buy our scoreboard

 

[Big Al]

http://www.fourfourtwo.com/au/news/league-dominates-young-socceroos-squad

Congratulations again to Liam Rose who is once again part of a Paul Okon squad

 

[midfielder]

Is it today or tomorrow the last day for the PFA / Nux to appeal against the weeMac decision.

 

[rbakersmith]

Is it today or tomorrow the last day for the PFA / Nux to appeal against the weeMac decision.

Today would appear to be the final day under the FFA's National Grievance Resolution Regulations (7 business days from the initial decision) - I would expect to see an announcement from the PFA and/or the Phoenix in the next couple of hours.

Should they appeal, a hearing would be set for within 21 days (i.e no later than the 21st) although given how close we are to the start of the season I would imagine it would be sooner than that.

It's worth noting that under the regulations any decision by the Appeal Committee would be final - there is no scope under the FFA Statutes for a matter of this type to be sent to the Court of Arbitration for Sport, and the regulations explicitly prevent any court appeal.

 

[Capt. Awesome]

Look slike Moss has found his defender:

http://www.ccmariners.com.au/article/news-25-player-squad-off-to-lismore/jt3xcc35cido1svy281yzurtc

A 25-player Central Coast Mariners squad departed Tuggerah bound for Lismore today where the Club will hold a seven-day pre-season camp.
The camp will culminate with a highly anticipated friendly against Melbourne City at Oakes Oval on Sunday 7 September, with kick-off scheduled for 2:30pm.

Over 5,000 fans are expected to descend on Oakes Oval on Father’s Day to see Phil Moss’s Mariners challenge John van’t Schip’s side, with the game shaping as a key fixture in both team’s preparations for Hyundai A-League season ten.

Four players who will join the Mariners’ NYL side for season 2014/15 will benefit from a week on tour with the first team in Lismore. Adam Pearce, Nick Petrillo, Mason Versi and Jake McGing have each been included in the Club’s squad for the camp in northern New South Wales.

Meanwhile, versatile defender Daniell Zelený will have every opportunity to impress boss Moss and his coaching staff while the team are in Lismore. Zelený, who has previously played professionally in India, Indonesia and the Philippines, will spend the week on trial with the Mariners in his bid to win a Hyundai A-League contract.
Storm Roux and Liam Rose will both miss the camp in Lismore due to international commitments with New Zealand and the Young Socceroos respectively. Roux will be in Doha, Qatar, training with the All Whites before they challenge Uzbekistan in Tashkent on Monday 8 September, while Rose is part of Paul Okon’s squad for the AFF U19 Youth Championships to be held in Vietnam from 5-13 September.

From Wednesday, Central Coast Mariners will provide daily updates on the team in Lismore. Like the Club’s official Facebook page, follow the Club’s official Twitter channel, follow the Club’s official Instagram account, or visit the Club’s website at www.CCMariners.com.au to stay up to date with#MarinersOnTour.

Central Coast Mariners Squad (Lismore 2014): John Hutchinson (C), Josh Rose, Zac Anderson, Nick Montgomery, Anthony Caceres, Nick Fitzgerald, Mitchell Duke, Daniell Zelený (Triallist), Nick Petrillo (NYL), Liam Reddy (Gk), Glen Trifiro, Anthony Kalik, Richárd Vernes, Adam Pearce (Gk) (NYL), Tom Slater, Michael Neill, Hayden Morton, Isaka Cernak, Brent Griffiths, Eddy Bosnar, Kim Seung-yong, Malick Mané, Matt Sim, Mason Versi (NYL), Jake McGing (NYL)

 

[Capt. Awesome]

Daniell Zelený's Youtube looks ok. He seems to be able to play the ball under pressure not like Bosnar or Anderson. Seems to be able to play both left and right footed. At only 19 he might be a good buy.

 

[Roy Law]

Daniell Zelený's Youtube looks ok. He seems to be able to play the ball under pressure not like Bosnar or Anderson. Seems to be able to play both left and right footed. At only 19 he might be a good buy.

But at 26 he might not be; I am not sure the pressure of Indian and Indonesian football is quite the same as the A League. If he turns out to be decent. all well and good, but this is shopping at the discount bins at BI-LO for me. There really can't be much money left in the tin.

 

[nebakke]

But at 26 he might not be; I am not sure the pressure of Indian and Indonesian football is quite the same as the A League. If he turns out to be decent. all well and good, but this is shopping at the discount bins at BI-LO for me. There really can't be much money left in the tin.

I suspect that we're probably a bit limited by the WeeMac situation too... But nothing wrong with the relative discount bins either, they've served us well enough in the past. He looks OK to me from the bits in there, be interesting to see how he performs here. My first thought though, was that I hope he doesn't try any of the "cuteness" in the A-league as I don't think it'll fly as well here as it did in India and Indonesia.
Once that's said, anyone who starts their reel with Living Colour should at least get a deserved go in my books ... Besides, I have to admit that I'm always intrigued and a little excited about any unknown brought in to the team.... It doesn't hurt either that it's another player who is mostly an unknown to the great traitor in the South

 

[midfielder]

Also does not hurt the week he is here we play Heart & Roar so the trail is not against state teams...

 

[midfielder]

Just reading the squad ... Matty S is still not in the squad, I can recall someone posted a while back he had some personal family issues .. hope all is well for Matty ...

 

[Capt. Awesome]

But at 26 he might not be; I am not sure the pressure of Indian and Indonesian football is quite the same as the A League. If he turns out to be decent. all well and good, but this is shopping at the discount bins at BI-LO for me. There really can't be much money left in the tin.

My bad. I thought I read he was 19. At 26 he may not be all that good. Jury will be out on this one.

 

[midfielder]

Today would appear to be the final day under the FFA's National Grievance Resolution Regulations (7 business days from the initial decision) - I would expect to see an announcement from the PFA and/or the Phoenix in the next couple of hours.

Should they appeal, a hearing would be set for within 21 days (i.e no later than the 21st) although given how close we are to the start of the season I would imagine it would be sooner than that.

It's worth noting that under the regulations any decision by the Appeal Committee would be final - there is no scope under the FFA Statutes for a matter of this type to be sent to the Court of Arbitration for Sport, and the regulations explicitly prevent any court appeal.

Be interesting to see what happens tomorrow either they have appealed today and will announce tomorrow, release him or potentially by pass FFA and take it to the NZ courts i.e test employment contracts in a NZ court.. the latter is possible given the way the PFA have been going on and IMO their need to save face..

 

[rbakersmith]

Be interesting to see what happens tomorrow either they have appealed today and will announce tomorrow, release him or potentially by pass FFA and take it to the NZ courts i.e test employment contracts in a NZ court.. the latter is possible given the way the PFA have been going on and IMO their need to save face..

That wouldn't work. As McGlinchey is challenging the validity of his contract with us, he would only be able to take it to the Supreme Court of NSW. However, as he agreed to be bound by the FFA's Grievance Resolution Regulations by signing the player contract that avenue isn't available to him either.

 

[dibo]

He may choose to argue that the FFA aren't able to force someone to contract away their common law rights.

 

[rbakersmith]

He may choose to argue that the FFA aren't able to force someone to contract away their common law rights.

If a court was to agree with that argument it wouldn't just affect the FFA; it would wreck the grievance procedures for the NRL and AFL as well and I imagine they would want to join such a case on the FFA's side very quickly.

I simply can't see it being successful - not without spending far more on silks than the remainder of his contract is worth.

 

[dibo]

I can't see it being successful without a fight, but that doesn't mean it's not a possible line of argument.

 

[pjennings]

http://footballcentral.com.au/daniells-academic-approach/#.VARC801d6Uk

Daniell Zeleny (24) is a young man with a level-head and determined spirit. He has not only managed to have a career as a professional footballer but has also obtained a degree in Sports Management.

The young man recognised early on perhaps the big leagues of Europe were out of reach, however, Daniell didn’t let this deter him from chasing his football dream – but studied to lay a foundation for life after football.

Asia’s provided the central defender with many experiences both good and bad, helping him develop as a footballer and a man. We caught up recently to hear his inspirational story for any young person wanting to follow their dream.

First, could you tell me about your football background? Where you got started?
My footballing background isn’t anything special – I come from a European family, and as such, was brought up with a ball at my foot and much like every other kid, wanted to play professional football.

I spent my childhood playing for local clubs in the Sutherland Shire, and throughout my teens represented a few clubs in the NSW Premier Youth Leagues.

I certainly wasn’t a child prodigy by any means; never selected to represent my state or country at any youth level, nor attended any significant coaching schools (not that my age-group had the wealth of selection opportunities on-hand, the younger players have today, in relation to private-coaching).

I just loved football, and would spend as much as time could, at the park with the ball, watching football, etc – basically anything that allowed me to divulge my full interests in learning/loving the game.

Towards my mid-late teens and into my early 20′s, I decided to make a commitment to myself (not at the expense of successfully completing my education), I would give my utmost to try and make a career in football happen.

At that point in time, I decided to focus completely on the goals at hand, and with careful time-management was able to develop a fairly strict routine, that kept me busy, but also constantly working towards what I wanted to achieve.

My days would consist of attending school/university; the necessary study and completion of additional work (homework, assignments etc), gym work, training on my own, training with my team, and fitting in some youth-coaching.

To add, I started to become curious with Asian football (as logic dictates we can’t all play in the English Premier League), and began to network and ask questions of the footballing & cultural climate(s) in Asia, as well as what would be expected of someone looking to head there and play football.

With the information given to me, I prepared a CV and video and sent my information out, in the hope that someone would respond.

Manuel Seisdedos is the first person who gave me a chance, not to mention, listened to me and helped me with any and all football-related questions. He is an exemplary footballing agent, and someone I will always be grateful towards for his advice and opinions.

My recent history in a nutshell – Post-graduation, I was fortunately noticed and traveled to India and signed with one of the biggest teams in the country, Mohun Bagan AC.

I was lucky enough to make my debut in front of over 100 000 people in a victorious Kolkata derby (which was special, as it was the first time in over a year Mohun Bagan had won).

My performances in India caught the attention of some teams in Indonesia, and I was allowed to make the jump in quality to Indonesian football; however unfortunately, like the majority of the foreigners there, I experienced some issues related to salary payments, and at the conclusion of the season, opted against staying.

Now football has brought to the Philippines and I’m really enjoying everything so far.

How did the move to the Philippines come about?

After electing against returning to Indonesia, I had opportunities in Thailand, Iran and Iceland break down at the final hurdle, for one reason or another.

I’d been alerted to David Perkovic’s appointment in the Philippines by Nathan Hall and a few players back home, who had previously worked with him. I consulted their opinion of him and received nothing but positive feedback.

That being said, I contacted David and was fortunate in that he was looking for a central defender; after reviewing my information and videos, he expressed his interest. I spoke with the General Manager, we came to an agreement and I flew over to sign the contract.

The move was quick and painless – which is generally not the case in South-East Asia. No one involved was trying to play games or undercut. Everything went very smoothly and it was a breath of fresh air.

What’s the standard and style of football like? And football culture like?

Football in the Philippines, much like the rest of South-East Asia, is developing. With that in mind, the general competition make-up, like most leagues in the region is there are a small number of ‘benchmark’ clubs (approx. 2 – 4), who are trying to set the standard within the country/region.

It’s generally characterised by greater funds and resources/sponsors (or a single wealthy owner), followed by a few more teams with lesser resources that are also trying to follow suit in advancing the league by following professional protocol, and then your smaller-teams with no real ambition or resources round off the table.

In the Philippines, Kaya FC would fit the bracket of being a benchmark-club; along with Global, Loyola and Stallions.

The style of football, in the Philippines, as in South-East Asia, is hugely determined by the coach. Generally speaking, a foreign coach will provide the invaluable quality of enforcing tactical discipline/structure.

For example with David Perkovic at Kaya FC, we attempt to pursue playing a more modern, ‘pass-and-move’/’tiki-taka’ style of football.

A local coach generally doesn’t posses the same analytical-eye and is more concerned with ‘fight, score, win’ – basically, applying the same coaching methods preached to them over 20 years ago (which can make training a battle!).

Keep in mind, there are exceptions to both points of concern noted, as there are some terrible foreign coaches and some talented local coaches among the mix. Needless to say, working with a quality foreign coach is worth its weight in gold!

With that in mind, when any of the top four teams play against each other, the standard of football is quite good, as these teams are made up of a mix of Filippino Azkals (national team players) and strong foreigners, where everyone tries to play football the way it should be played.

However against the smaller teams, you tend to have to prepare yourself for a fight (literally, in some cases), and a game where the ball spends a lot time in the air – again, akin to the development of football in the region.

With reference to the fans, the Filipino fans are the warmest and most sincere of any of the fans I’ve played in front of – as a player or a spectator there are no concerns for your safety.
Albeit, crowds aren’t the same size as what you get in Indonesia or India, but the stadium is always full and the ‘ultras’ do their bit to bring a little bit of Europe to the Philippines, singing their songs and playing their instruments for 90+ minutes.

You will see a lot of families attending Filipino football games (again, referencing safety) and surprisingly, the ratio of female fans in attendance is drastically higher than anywhere else I’ve seen/played, which is nice.

There are even McDonald’s staff running around the stadium with menus, so you can order McDonalds to your seat, which is something I’ve never seen before, but I think is an impressive value-add!

How involved in the community does the club get? I know basketball is quite popular so it is a tough market for the football side?

Just recently the whole team traveled to GK Hugo Perez village, Trece Martirez, Cavite and in conjunction with the LBC Foundation, helped to build homes, as well as conduct a football clinic for the children of the area.

Kaya FC acknowledges its social responsibilities and as a result, word around the club is this type of community service will become a monthly habit.

Given that the Philippines is such an “Americanised” country, it’s no surprise football isn’t the number one sport at present. In bars and pubs, almost always there’s basketball on-screen, and whilst they do show football on TV, it’s not the same extent as neighbouring countries, where football is the established number one sport and supported fanatically.

But I don’t think the market itself will be difficult for football to crack. The Younghusband brothers (Phil and James) are already household names and appear on almost every kind of billboard or advert imaginable. Other Azkal (national team) players are following suit as well.
The sport of football is on its way to becoming a huge part of Filipino culture because up until now, I don’t think the Philippines’ had a specific sport to call their own.

With participation rates amongst youth rapidly growing (through football clinics and schools), and the national teams continued successes, the general vibe is the future is bright for Filipino football.

 

[sydmariner]

Just reading the squad ... Matty S is still not in the squad, I can recall someone posted a while back he had some personal family issues .. hope all is well for Matty ...

yes he did but i think that he was in our FFA cup squad but didn't play

 

[rbakersmith]

And off to the Appeal Committee we go...

Meanwhile the players’ union has launched an appeal against the arbitration finding that has forced Michael McGlinchey to stay with the Mariners.

McGlinchey was told his belief that his Mariners contract was invalid was wrong, leaving the player in limbo having effectively signed with both the Mariners and Wellington Phoenix.

Though the full arbitration has still to be released, the PFA have lodged an appeal.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...-cup-round-of-16/story-fnk6pqot-1227044225997