Hagar the Horrible
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It isn't always like that for the green jersey. There have been times when it hasn't been decided until the final sprint in Paris.Peachos said:
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Tour De France
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Omni said:
The downhill start, which it basically was, certainly assisted Sastre. Davitamon-Lotto, while changing their name, is the same team. The same companies have supported the team for a number of years, and each year, they change the name to promote a different product. Initially they were Davitamon, then Predictor, now Silence... I'm sure next year a new product will make it's name onto the jersey.
Belgian teams are not known to chase the 'Grand Tours', rather one day classics. The team will hopefully recruit better for next season.
For any of you wishing to join in with the Central Coast Cycling Club for rides, come along on Saturday morning for a training ride. We meet at West Gosford Shops at 7am, head down to Umina, back through West Gosford and out to Terrigal. The pace is around 30km/h, and it's a nice easy ride.
Arabmariner
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Still don't get this in a professional sport.........."unwritten law"?? ???Peachos said:
So what if some rider ignored the "unwritten law" and actually caused an upset and won it....would they refuse him the trophy?
As I said before I'm new to watching this and up until the last day I had really got into it.
No one has really explained yet how this last day farce came about.
To all the purists I'm not trying to be a smart arse here I'm just interested/don't get it!
P.S. maybe if we're 1-0 up v the Scum with 2 mins to go we can make it "against etiquette" or "unwritten law" to challenge the leader!!
Mariner Girl
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Attn: Rosko - where have you been?
Please HELPPP explain the last day
Please HELPPP explain the last day
scottmac
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the last day is basically an exhibition for all the main riders.
All the riders know that he yellow jersey is decided after the individual TT. Even if one of the guys went against etiquette and tried to win the last stage, by how ever many seconds or minutes he was behind, most of the days riding is just a road circuit which you ride around a number of times. It is nearly impossible for a rider to escape the peleton and make a break. the only way it could happen would be a huge accident and then who ever decided to take advantage of that would be chased out of the sport. (think of kicking Bozza in the nuts before a penalty and then taking the penalty while he is down, thats a similarity)
The reason for this is so the crowd can get a good view of all the riders and cheer on all their favourite riders etc etc.
The green jersey on the other hand as has been previously said could go down to the last few meters.
Wikipedia states that the leader is left alone on the last stage to bask in the glory of his triumph.
All the riders know that he yellow jersey is decided after the individual TT. Even if one of the guys went against etiquette and tried to win the last stage, by how ever many seconds or minutes he was behind, most of the days riding is just a road circuit which you ride around a number of times. It is nearly impossible for a rider to escape the peleton and make a break. the only way it could happen would be a huge accident and then who ever decided to take advantage of that would be chased out of the sport. (think of kicking Bozza in the nuts before a penalty and then taking the penalty while he is down, thats a similarity)
The reason for this is so the crowd can get a good view of all the riders and cheer on all their favourite riders etc etc.
The green jersey on the other hand as has been previously said could go down to the last few meters.
Wikipedia states that the leader is left alone on the last stage to bask in the glory of his triumph.
clarence
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Perm said:
Yes, he was only 22 seconds or so behind Contador (sp?) and was one of the few times that the Tour had come down to deciding the Overall Winner on the very last day.
He did have a chance of snatching victory if he got a lucky break and Contador wasn't riding very well. But Contador did his job and Cadel lost out.
I understand the tradition of an exhibition ride on the last day. But I suspect that some time soon there's going to be someone, with a very strong team backing him, who is going to make an early break with his team and make up a small time deficit to win it in Paris.
Cadel hasn't had a good team to help him, and he has said as much. No support in the mountain stages meant he was hassled by CSC and other teams, and forced to ride on his own. Not a good strategy if you are the Yellow Jersey wearer half way through the Tour. No energy left by the time he left the mountain stages and was very single paced in that last Time Trial.
clarence
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This interview he gave after last year's race indicates that:
a) He didn't believe there was a tradition NOT to challenge on the last day
b) That although he felt that 23 seconds was big ask, it was there for the taking if an opportunity arose
c) He had a plan to take the lead and go for it at the 1klm to go mark but he couldn't see the other rider involved in the plan - too fast and too many riders.
http://www.abc.net.au/tv/enoughrope/transcripts/s1998054.htm
Realistically, though, that 23 seconds from last year's race was too far behind, given the way he described the bunch sprint and speeds of 70 k's in a road circuit race.
a) He didn't believe there was a tradition NOT to challenge on the last day
b) That although he felt that 23 seconds was big ask, it was there for the taking if an opportunity arose
c) He had a plan to take the lead and go for it at the 1klm to go mark but he couldn't see the other rider involved in the plan - too fast and too many riders.
http://www.abc.net.au/tv/enoughrope/transcripts/s1998054.htm
Realistically, though, that 23 seconds from last year's race was too far behind, given the way he described the bunch sprint and speeds of 70 k's in a road circuit race.
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