R2 - Central Coast Mariners vs Macarthur FC at home

[Stuartmcateer]

My concern is that with Theo having started on Thursday we might have bloody Wilson until he gets hooked

I would be interested to see how Wilson goes in a more central role. I don’t think he is a wide player. He seems lost out there and doesn’t really have the crossing to deliver.

He looked reasonable for victory last year but he was up the guts rather than out on a wing. Made some good direct runs out of midfield.

 

[FFC Mariner]

I would be interested to see how Wilson goes in a more central role. I don’t think he is a wide player. He seems lost out there and doesn’t really have the crossing to deliver.

He looked reasonable for victory last year but he was up the guts rather than out on a wing. Made some good direct runs out of midfield.

Well he won't get anywhere near our midfield will he?

 

[Stuartmcateer]

Well he won't get anywhere near our midfield will he?

Obviously. And I wasn’t suggesting he would force niz or max or tulio out.

Just pointing out that Monty obviously saw something he could use. He offers a different option in the middle of the park to what we have. What I saw last year was a very direct runner, able to beat a player or break from midfield to support an attack.

Seems like we are trying to make a square peg fit in a round hole.

We have plenty of games and if we are clear top when terranganu come in a month it might be a good chance to try it and give niz and max a rest.

 

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————-Kaltak———Hall———Paull————
Doka——Wilson———Niz——-Ballard——Fazz
———————Torres——-Tulio———————

 

[FFC Mariner]

Obviously. And I wasn’t suggesting he would force niz or max or tulio out.

Just pointing out that Monty obviously saw something he could use. He offers a different option in the middle of the park to what we have. What I saw last year was a very direct runner, able to beat a player or break from midfield to support an attack.

Seems like we are trying to make a square peg fit in a round hole.

We have plenty of games and if we are clear top when terranganu come in a month it might be a good chance to try it and give niz and max a rest.

Tapp and Steele are ahead of him.

 

[Stuartmcateer]

Tapp and Steele are ahead of him.

Steele is exactly the same as niz and max. Bringing him in is like for like. From the limited game time Tapp looks the same but better than all 3.

I think Wilson can offer something a little different. Monty obviously thought so.

He hasn’t set the world on fire but he’s only 21 and at a new club. He has most likely moved away from home for the first time and away from his family.

Max wasn’t great in his first season and Niz wasn’t the player he is now day 1 either.

What puzzles me is people are willing to give paull time because he is young but not give Wilson a similar break.

 

[Wombat]

Steele is exactly the same as niz and max. Bringing him in is like for like. From the limited game time Tapp looks the same but better than all 3.

I think Wilson can offer something a little different. Monty obviously thought so.

He hasn’t set the world on fire but he’s only 21 and at a new club. He has most likely moved away from home for the first time and away from his family.

Max wasn’t great in his first season and Niz wasn’t the player he is now day 1 either.

What puzzles me is people are willing to give paull time because he is young but not give Wilson a similar break.

Wilson has been rank every game. He was starting to kop some abuse from the fans around me on Thurs. Wilson doesn't deserve any more chances. Certainly not as a starter.

Paull has been ok but with some brain farts.

Most people can see a player inside Paull......but he is also running out of opportunities. already some are suggesting Hall and Kaltak.

 

[Wombat]

Obviously. And I wasn’t suggesting he would force niz or max or tulio out.

Just pointing out that Monty obviously saw something he could use. He offers a different option in the middle of the park to what we have. What I saw last year was a very direct runner, able to beat a player or break from midfield to support an attack.

Seems like we are trying to make a square peg fit in a round hole.

We have plenty of games and if we are clear top when terranganu come in a month it might be a good chance to try it and give niz and max a rest.

Monty was not sentimental. Play shit like Wilson and you will be gone like Aquilina, Ruhs and Ayongo....other players that he thought he could use.

 

[scottmac]

Monty was not sentimental. Play shit like Wilson and you will be gone like Aquilina, Ruhs and Ayongo....other players that he thought he could use.

Yeah Monty also continued to start Kaltak when the knives were out for him on here more than the 3 you just named. This forum doesn't have the best track record when judging new players performances and also loves having a replacement for said player that's done nothing to deserve it

 

[Stuartmcateer]

Monty was not sentimental. Play shit like Wilson and you will be gone like Aquilina, Ruhs and Ayongo....other players that he thought he could use.

He also played those players in their preferred positions - and they were still shit.

Dan hall struggles if he plays outside CB but is handy in the middle.

Remember that silvera was absolutely horrible in his first stint with us. Couldn’t pass. Crap touch. Lost the ball every time he ran it. Fell over in a gentle breeze. To be honest he was like that at the start of last year too - but it clicked.

 

[Stuartmcateer]

Wilson has been rank every game. He was starting to kop some abuse from the fans around me on Thurs. Wilson doesn't deserve any more chances. Certainly not as a starter.

I’m not suggesting he should be a walk up start or that he has been playing well.

And I certainly don’t understand the abuse for any player (criticism sure but not abuse). There was a bit of it where I was but it was mainly young kids in ccu jackets.( As if anyone from there has the right to abuse someone for performances when they got relegated across the board).

 

[booney]

I’m not suggesting he should be a walk up start or that he has been playing well.

And I certainly don’t understand the abuse for any player (criticism sure but not abuse). There was a bit of it where I was but it was mainly young kids in ccu jackets.( As if anyone from there has the right to abuse someone for performances when they got relegated across the board).

Could not agree more.Some so called fans too ready to tear young players apart.Maybe some justification in abuse of players like Bozanic( a seasoned pro) or Ziggy( likewise) but not in players new to the club and possibly being played out of position.

 

[BrisRecky]

SO.....Cow tipping day it is then
COYY

 

[BrisRecky]

mate of mine was at the game v Bali and when Warcharsky nutmegged hisself , some blow in wearing every conceivable mariners item screamed "where not winning this year", grabbed his family and left....f**kwit

 

[Tim]

mate of mine was at the game v Bali and when Warcharsky nutmegged hisself , some blow in wearing every conceivable mariners item screamed "where not winning this year", grabbed his family and left....f**kwit

The club can do without fans like that. As for giving it to Wilson or others, suggest the relevant fan/s throw on a jersey and boots, trial for the team and demonstrate they can do better….
If a player is trying his best, he was signed for a reason and he deserves our support…

 

[Meerkat]

And I certainly don’t understand the abuse for any player (criticism sure but not abuse). There was a bit of it where I was but it was mainly young kids in ccu jackets.( As if anyone from there has the right to abuse someone for performances when they got relegated across the board).

Agree 100%. There is no place for it. At the game or on social media where players, families, friends etc read it.

Tell the whole team to get their shit together sure, but out and out abuse is never ok. I wasn’t comfortable with the way Jack got targeted after the OG on Thursday, either, every time the ball went near him. We aren’t Scotland.

 

[true believer]

The club can do without fans like that. As for giving it to Wilson or others, suggest the relevant fan/s throw on a jersey and boots, trial for the team and demonstrate they can do better….
If a player is trying his best, he was signed for a reason and he deserves our support…

This

 

[Josho Howe]

Think we're a pretty good chance today. Our best friend is them having to travel to Cambodia and back. We were rested at home. First home game, good weather finally. Momentum from the win on Thursday on our side. Should be 3pts.

 

[Michael]

The club can do without fans like that. As for giving it to Wilson or others, suggest the relevant fan/s throw on a jersey and boots, trial for the team and demonstrate they can do better….
If a player is trying his best, he was signed for a reason and he deserves our support…

This is a fair call, but also…. As paying members/fans we’re entitled to an opinion. Yeah it shouldn’t go so low to be toxic like the example Recky used above. That’s f**ked up.
I personally hate the argument “chuck some boots on and do better” though. Just because a fan never reached pro level doesn’t mean they aren’t knowledgeable enough to know a player either isn’t good enough or isn’t playing well enough. Not trying to be confrontational, just my 2 cents….
But anyway, a fully fit 18yo Di Pizio plays ahead of Wilson every day of the week, IMO. If theo doesn’t start today I hope Migz does.

 

[AuzDutchy]