Matchday 12 v Entitlement FC

[marinermick]

Much improved performance by Sydney versus Victory. Hopefully the intensity of the match will take plenty out of them.

Might be a big ask to get Nisbet, Hall and Miller back but intensity needs to lift.

Will the Cumdog make an appearance?

 

[true believer]

after watching barrnet come off looking very distressed .
in the tards v shitney game.
i'd be starting last weeks team and bringing any of the covid lads
as second half subs only

 

[marinermick]

after watching barrnet come off looking very distressed .
in the tards v shitney game.
i'd be starting last weeks team and bringing any of the covid lads
as second half subs only

I know the Mariners measured VO2 output of players and this was in their decision making for selections, hence Steele and Goddard getting less game time.

I wonder if Victory did the same?

 

[true believer]

yeah i think so . there is a certain genetic element that isn't quantifiable .
as far as we know barrnet may of had an impact injury.
but as covid has a f'king nasty pulmonary effect no one will be taking a chance

 

[Ads]

Will Miller, Nisbit, Hall be back.
What if they tested positive the day of the game do they have to wait the 7 days?

Or are they allowed to let symptoms subside and present 2x negative tests.

Much improved performance by Sydney versus Victory. Hopefully the intensity of the match will take plenty out of them.

Might be a big ask to get Nisbet, Hall and Miller back but intensity needs to lift.

Will the Cumdog make an appearance?

 

[Rising Sun]

after watching barrnet come off looking very distressed .
in the tards v shitney game.
i'd be starting last weeks team and bringing any of the covid lads
as second half subs only

We won't be starting last weeks team whatever happens because of Kye's absence. We could do with Hall/Miller being good for half a game each at least to share the spot.

If not then Tongyik and Windust are our last 2 CBs standing and Windust in particular may struggle to last a full game. We might need to press Farrell or even Oli/Max into service has an emergency CB or dip into the NPL again (there is one other possible option I can think of there).

 

[true believer]

We won't be starting last weeks team whatever happens because of Kye's absence. We could do with Hall/Miller being good for half a game each at least to share the spot.

If not then Tongyik and Windust are our last 2 CBs standing and Windust in particular may struggle to last a full game. We might need to press Farrell or even Oli/Max into service has an emergency CB or dip into the NPL again (there is one other possible option I can think of there).

storm did decent job last week .if miller isn't 110%. then ,i'd play storm again .
the decision on who plays should be purely on a medical basis

 

[Rising Sun]

storm did decent job last week .if miller isn't 110%. then ,i'd play storm again .
the decision on who plays should be purely on a medical basis

Miller hasn't yet got the stamina to last a full game at FB when fit so wouldn't play him there given he is unlikely to be fully fit.

Would be handy though if he can manage.some time at CB. We are likely to be short there given that Tongyik, Windust and Hall if fit might all struggle to play a full 90. Since the following week is mooted as the date for the cup final, it would also be good to get some minutes into Miller's legs with a view to resuming at RB for that.

 

[Insertnamehere]

I know the Mariners measured VO2 output of players and this was in their decision making for selections, hence Steele and Goddard getting less game time.

I wonder if Victory did the same?

VO2 output?

 

[scottmac]

Spose it's all down to individual recovery and whoever makes the medical judgement on the team.

VO2 output?

Vo2 Max I think. The maximum amount of oxygen the players can utilise during effort.

 

[Corsair]

storm did decent job last week

He was rubbish and slow, don't know why people think he had a good game?

 

[finally retired]

Totally agree with Dobbie.... Storm was rubbish. So much so that I almost wish clisby was back....and I though clisby was crap ?

 

[marinermick]

Spose it's all down to individual recovery and whoever makes the medical judgement on the team.

Vo2 Max I think. The maximum amount of oxygen the players can utilise during effort.

This

 

[scottmac]

He was rubbish and slow, don't know why people think he had a good game?

Yeah you know storm's going to be slow but when he makes stupid passes coming out of our end that lead to turn overs, you just want to ring his neck. Hoof it champ, rather than playing risky balls back towards the middle.
I'd be blooding the young fella Bayliss, but he's down as a midfielder in the squad list so maybe I'm not the best judge. However it will be Kamsoba? on that side I think so maybe Storm for the experience?

 

[true believer]

He was rubbish and slow, don't know why people think he had a good game?

he has been . but not last week .
if miller is not available then he'll get the nod

 

[Insertnamehere]

Yeah thats why I queried. Its not a relevant physiological measure for football. This is because its an aerobic measure, whereas football isn't an aerobic activity like marathon.
Football varies between the 3 energy systems.

Spose it's all down to individual recovery and whoever makes the medical judgement on the team.

Vo2 Max I think. The maximum amount of oxygen the players can utilise during effort.

 

[dibo]

Yeah thats why I queried. Its not a relevant physiological measure for football. This is because its an aerobic measure, whereas football isn't an aerobic activity like marathon.
Football varies between the 3 energy systems.

I'm not a sports scientist but I've done a bit of running (and reading about running). For a marathon you'd be operating a fair bit below max. VO2Max is more likely to be found through a 12 minute maximum effort (or a beep test!)

Regardless, it's a pretty fair indicator of the physiological capacity to play football because it checks if you're going to be able to make repeat efforts or drop off.

It's not perfect but it's a well understood and reliably tested metric where the players are going to have baseline data already, so we can see how far off their norms they are.

 

[Coastalraider]

V02 max will have (hopefully!) been recorded in preseason for each players tests, so it is also a direct comparison of lung efficiency post covid.

 

[Insertnamehere]

I'm not a sports scientist but I've done a bit of running (and reading about running). For a marathon you'd be operating a fair bit below max. VO2Max is more likely to be found through a 12 minute maximum effort (or a beep test!)

Regardless, it's a pretty fair indicator of the physiological capacity to play football because it checks if you're going to be able to make repeat efforts or drop off.

It's not perfect but it's a well understood and reliably tested metric where the players are going to have baseline data already, so we can see how far off their norms they are.

Marathon runners have some of the highest vo2max numbers. Footballers less so.

You might use it to compare stages of the season and injury recovery. But the players should have a similar figure anyway.

Regardless I wouldn't be using it for game day decisions. You have GPS data, HRV, relative assessments to recovery, sleep data.

 

[Kilsin]

Yeah thats why I queried. Its not a relevant physiological measure for football. This is because its an aerobic measure, whereas football isn't an aerobic activity like marathon.
Football varies between the 3 energy systems.

I'm a Personal Trainer and have never used it myself but learned a lot about it and have clients that use it as part of their organisations or teams requirements.

It's basically to see how much oxygen they are providing to the working muscles, and while it's a good indicator of aerobic fitness they usually measure blood lactate and heart rate alongside VO2Max as the main indicators of how efficiently the player can get around the pitch.

It's quite commonly used for footballers.