Mariners v Lightning and Spirit FC

[Bear]

The story of the English language is a story of popular use of words and phrases that don't always conform and authority trying to regulate it.  I also hate the use of 'versing' but recognise that if enough people use it widely enough for long enough it may become valid usage.

'versus' means against or facing and is Latin.  It comes from the Latin verb 'versare' to turn.  Since the verb can be conjugated in Latin to say, I face, you face, we face etc there doesn't seem much wrong with saying "we will be facing" or "we will be versing".  That's how language changes over the centuries and why we aren't all speaking gutteral alliterative Old English today!

TAKE THAT DIBO 

 

[dibo]

rather be versing Juventus...

I'd rather be playing Juventus too, but we aren't and I'll get over it.

. but will you get over 'versing'?

But it's so horrible and it makes no sense. It's just sloppy. I'm fine with people not using uncommon or arcane forms of the lingo - 'whom' is probably a word whose time has come to saunter off into disuse - but there's no more reason to say 'we're versing them' than there is to say 'I catched the ball'. It's comprehensible (in that people will understand what you mean) but it's still wrong.

there is not much about the english language that is right or makes sense so i have no problem with versing

The story of the English language is a story of popular use of words and phrases that don't always conform and authority trying to regulate it.  I also hate the use of 'versing' but recognise that if enough people use it widely enough for long enough it may become valid usage.

'versus' means against or facing and is Latin.  It comes from the Latin verb 'versare' to turn.  Since the verb can be conjugated in Latin to say, I face, you face, we face etc there doesn't seem much wrong with saying "we will be facing" or "we will be versing".  That's how language changes over the centuries and why we aren't all speaking gutteral alliterative Old English today!

I got all that, that's why i wrote:

I'm fine with people not using uncommon or arcane forms of the lingo - 'whom' is probably a word whose time has come to saunter off into disuse - but there's no more reason to say 'we're versing them' than there is to say 'I catched the ball'.

You can talk about conjugations of Latin verbs, but this isn't a different conjugation. Its an improper form.

There is a point to having a degree of standardised language, and in a way now even though the grammatical structures of English are basically set the language is evolving faster than ever - year by year more new words and expressions than ever before are being created.

All that is still no more reason to accept 'versing' than 'catched'. So are we to adopt catched as a legitimate past tense of 'to catch'? Similarly, I have no idea where this 'his' for 'he is' thing has come from and I see it a lot on here, and should that be used? It makes it harder to understand what the writer means.

 

[bikinigirl]

. didn't think you'd get over it

. and it is only hard to understand if you think about it more than the person who wrote it

 

[dibo]

. didn't think you'd get over it

. and it is only hard to understand if you think about it more than the person who wrote it

apologies, but i'm a pedantic grump.

 

[Ted]

vying... 

 

[voice of reason]

All that is still no more reason to accept 'versing' than 'catched'. So are we to adopt catched as a legitimate past tense of 'to catch'? Similarly, I have no idea where this 'his' for 'he is' thing has come from and I see it a lot on here, and should that be used? It makes it harder to understand what the writer means.

Your choice of 'catched' is a good example of what might come to be...since most of the world's English speakers speak it as a second language, their understanding may be limited.  Think of when a 2year old learns the language.  As they pick up the rules they use terms like 'catched' because it seems to comply with the past tense form, not realising there is an irregular set of verbs that we acquired from Old English.  OE had 300 of these irregular verbs (swim, swam, swum - break, broke, brake - catch, caught, caught etc etc), Modern English has 68 and many of those will disappear because of language change. 

I don't think we should easily give up some rules either but you may find you have swimmed against the tide...(?!)

What was the thread topic again..?  Oh, yes, see you at the CCM v Lightning

 

[sorjesk]

C'mon Spirit!!! - and only cause they are my local club and I have been following them for a few years. 1-1 last year - the spirit boys might get up this year...

 

[tyson]

Just wondering why they picked one of the two nights footballers on the Central Coast have allocated for training to play the Lightning versing Mariners game...

Isn't the idea to get as many people as possible attending?

 

[blakus]

Just wondering why they picked one of the two nights footballers on the Central Coast have allocated for training to play the Lightning versing Mariners game...

Isn't the idea to get as many people as possible attending?

im sure if everyone misses 1 night of training it wont matter too much. it is the Mariners after all.

 

[kevrenor]

Spirit FC are doing quite well: In past 2 weeks beat Sydney Wanderers, then in R3 Tiger Turf Cup 4 - 1 win over Hawkesbury City, though only managed 1-1 away to Hills United (victors 2-1 over Lightning in TTC) this weekend. They are on top by a point from Blacktown Spartans and Inter Lions after 8 rounds.

Couldn't make the Spirit TTCR3 game due to being sick but will look forward to round 4 (tba) when they are likely to meet a NSWPL side.

Should be a good hit-out versus Mariners (I will miss the Pluim game due to minor op).

 

[dibo]

Just wondering why they picked one of the two nights footballers on the Central Coast have allocated for training to play the Lightning versing Mariners game...

Isn't the idea to get as many people as possible attending?

ARGHK!!!

 

[kevrenor]

Just wondering why they picked one of the two nights footballers on the Central Coast have allocated for training to play the Lightning versing Mariners game...

Isn't the idea to get as many people as possible attending?

ARGHK!!!

Let's not go there again Dibo, but it conjures up wonderful images of Lawrie quoting Burns, and Fergie addressing the haggis - with McClafferty responding with some Ossian sagas.

I agree that if there is a night when most fans can get there it should be aimed for that night ... it is as much a promotion as a training run.

 

[dru]

Just wondering why they picked one of the two nights footballers on the Central Coast have allocated for training to play the Lightning versing Mariners game...

Isn't the idea to get as many people as possible attending?

ARGHK!!!

<Sits back to watch dibo go slowly insane from moderating these forum.> 

 

[tyson]

Just wondering why they picked one of the two nights footballers on the Central Coast have allocated for training to play the Lightning versing Mariners game...

Isn't the idea to get as many people as possible attending?

ARGHK!!!

Dibo, relax man. I was taking the piss.

 

[marinermick]

has anyone any idea who will be between the sticks tuesday night?

 

[mariners4ever]

Anyone been to training, if so, who was goalkeeper

 

[From the dug out]

Both Trotty and Danny have been training at Budge

 

[mariners4ever]

isnt trott injured???

 

[Aden]

I heard  sasho in goals  1st Half  then  Hutch second half hahaahaha

 

[marinermick]

Both Trotty and Danny have been training at Budge

danny is not allowed to play while trotty has been on light duties