"I for one welcome our insect overlords" - The Politics Thread

[Insertnamehere]

Forget the result. My rant has nothing to do with who won or lost yesterday but more to do with who got to vote or more importantly who was not allowed to vote.

How many people were disenfranchised by the stuff up of iVote. Privatising things like elections and censuses to private enterprise that is more concerned with profits than getting the correct results is scandalous. How many people were unable to vote because of this debacle?

Don't you know that's the only way conservative govts will be able to get elected into the future.
They have a big problem looming demographically. 18-34 are only voting around 25% conservative. There'll be a concerted push for voluntary voting in the coming years.
Then when it is voluntary, disenfranchise everyone but the white and o55. They're the ones who vote enmass in voluntary systems.

 

[FFC Mariner]

Best thing ever - registered and voted 2 weeks ago. No need to waste time at polling booths. It opened on 11th March so not sure why people waited until the day

 

[MagpieMariner]

I knew it existed, but my wife & I preferred to go out for pre-poll & coffee.

 

[Insertnamehere]

I knew it existed, but my wife & I preferred to go out for pre-poll & coffee.

Also #democracysausage

 

[pjennings]

Best thing ever - registered and voted 2 weeks ago. No need to waste time at polling booths. It opened on 11th March so not sure why people waited until the day

There have been troubles over the last three days - not only on the day.

 

[Big Al]

Also #democracysausage

None last year so swapped poll booth and none again. Even asked the missus to make sure she had money for one. I’m more outraged about that

 

[Insertnamehere]

None last year so swapped poll booth and none again. Even asked the missus to make sure she had money for one. I’m more outraged about that

That is absolutely outrageous

 

[MagpieMariner]

Most boring election I've seen for many years. Only 3 seats (so far) changed hands.

 

[MagpieMariner]

Also #democracysausage

No, not where we did pre-poll.
Ironic, polling on the day was at Brisbane Water College, and they sent the voters up to where the kids were playing trial games for their sausages. Nice earn for Woy Woy FC.

 

[Insertnamehere]

Most boring election I've seen for many years. Only 3 seats (so far) changed hands.

Uninspiring leaders, running on similar platforms. Daley Asian PhD moment probs caused libs to get majority rather than minority govt.
Pretty hard to unseat a govt whom have a fairly stable state.

 

[Big Al]

Uninspiring leaders, running on similar platforms. Daley Asian PhD moment probs caused libs to get majority rather than minority govt.
Pretty hard to unseat a govt whom have a fairly stable state.

His $3b for tafe teacher moment showed he didn’t know his policies and his lead item was we won’t build stadiums it nothing on what he would do.

Lost a winnable election via poor leadership. He surely must be removed by Labor after the weekend

 

[MagpieMariner]

Uninspiring leaders, running on similar platforms. Daley Asian PhD moment probs caused libs to get majority rather than minority govt.
Pretty hard to unseat a govt whom have a fairly stable state.

Certainly uninspiring leaders. Daley has already moved sideways 'cause Labor don't want a change before May. No sign of a State-wide swing either, most sitting members got a swing to them regardless of party, except for the Nats who got smashed.

 

[pjennings]

Certainly uninspiring leaders. Daley has already moved sideways 'cause Labor don't want a change before May. No sign of a State-wide swing either, most sitting members got a swing to them regardless of party, except for the Nats who got smashed.

This is one bit most analysis is missing. There was a statewide swing against the Government (2.7 against the LIBs 0.9 against NATs). That it did not transfer to the ALP in the same volume owes a lot to the voting system (optional preferential vs federally compulsory preferential) and a lot to probably the worst last week campaign in living memory by Daley.

Everyone is bagging the Nats but they are the most efficient in getting votes although their vote collapsed in the Murray Darling seats where it went to the SFF who have almost identical policies. The Greens are the worst.

ALP 1,296,168 36
LIB 1,265,279 35
NAT 378,415 13
GRN 364,833 3
SFF 135,491 3

 

[Insertnamehere]

This is one bit most analysis is missing. There was a statewide swing against the Government (2.7 against the LIBs 0.9 against NATs). That it did not transfer to the ALP in the same volume owes a lot to the voting system (optional preferential vs federally compulsory preferential) and a lot to probably the worst last week campaign in living memory by Daley.

Everyone is bagging the Nats but they are the most efficient in getting votes although their vote collapsed in the Murray Darling seats where it went to the SFF who have almost identical policies. The Greens are the worst.

ALP 1,296,168 36
LIB 1,265,279 35
NAT 378,415 13
GRN 364,833 3
SFF 135,491 3

Define efficient.

 

[pjennings]

Define efficient.

For each 29109 votes they got a seat - compare that to
ALP needed 36005
LIB needed 36151
SFF needed 45164
GRN needed 121611

 

[Insertnamehere]

For each 29109 votes they got a seat - compare that to
ALP needed 36005
LIB needed 36151
SFF needed 45164
GRN needed 121611

Massive over simplification. They appeal to a more homogeneous group of people firstly. So by default there is less competition in their seats.
Secondly the only compete in regional seats. The other parties competed in all but a few.

 

[pjennings]

 

[pjennings]

I have long lamented the demise of journalism in this country. (The last decent print journalist was Alan Ramsey). What we have now are cheerleaders at worst and reporters at best. You all know the cheerleaders but the reporters are as bad. Reporting as fact what politicians say is not journalism.

As the Karvelas and Ulhmann complain about the contempt people hold the 'journalism' profession it reminds me of the old adage.

Journalism 101: If someone says it's raining and another person says it's dry, it's not your job to quote them both. Your job is to look out the f**king window and find out which is true

 

[pjennings]

Our own Dibo celebrating our democracy

 

[Wombat]

Dibo will be crying like ................