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turbo

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1 bloke that paid his own way (Jem) and is playing for free
What? That doesn't make any sense.

It sounds like we were on track to spend the cap (poorly perhaps) or close to it this year but then with the writing on the wall MC has said there's no point replacing some of those players and spending more than we have to because we still wont get out of 10th. Let's limit our losses and have another crack next year. It's not a good mentality for supporters but without the prospect of relegation it's hard to argue with his logic. Our absolute best case by the time the window closed was 8th and it didnt look too likely. There's also the possibility they missed some players they wanted and they werent happy with the other options. Sheffield loans might have been pursued as a proof of concept for future loans.
 

Michael

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What about the bemuda traingle of players, We possible(unlikely) paid the min club spend for this season.
We then let Golec go.....no replacement.
We then let McCormack......no replacement.
We then let mcGing go.....no replacement.

we then let Millar become a scummer and continuied to play the dog...when scum offerered to pay out his min wage contract...no replacement.

We let Berry go....no replacement.

So basically we are so f**ked up (Pikey!) that we thought that we could cover 5 player loses with 3 free players. 2 kids for free from sheff and 1 bloke that paid his own way (Jem) and is playing for free.

Charlesworth you are a dog. A liar and a fraud. Fund us or f**k OFF. More of the same next season and you will have an increased security bill each home game.

Yeah you’re going to have to go into more detail about Jem.
 

JackMariner

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Sent to me by a current long time member of CCM who like me cannot bring himself to attend any further games and interestingly authored by a devout SFC member:
MARINERS HELD HOSTAGE LONG ENOUGH

The Central Coast Mariners, once the little club that could and now the basketcase that has forgotten how, are in the middle of the greatest crisis of their 14 year existence.

- Lost 2-8 to Wellington Phoenix.

- Coach Mike Mulvey given the boot at 1am.

- Stone, motherless last.

- Three coaches sacked in four seasons.

- Wooden spooners in three of the last five seasons, coming 8th on the other two occasions.

And losing not only match after match, season after season, but quality players to other A-League clubs.

Roy O’Donovan, Anthony Caceres, Storm Roux, Trent Buhagiar, Danny De Silva, Lachie Wales, Ross McCormack, Matt Millar. All gone to greener pastures.

And with Millar, CCM were asleep at the wheel when the Jets pounced.

How has it come to this?

Under Lawrie McKinna in 2006-2010, the Mariners played a desperate, physical style that endeared them to local supporters, winning the 2007/8 A-League premiership and losing the 2006 and 2008 Grand Finals. McKinna deserves much off-field credit too, doing plenty of community work to forge a bond between the newly-established Mariners and the region that felt abandoned by every other sporting code.

Following the club’s 2009/10 season, McKinna moved upstairs to become Football and Commercial Manager, paving the way for Graham Arnold to take charge. And, having won the 2011/12 premiership, come second in 2010/11 and 2012/13, and lost the 2011 Grand Final, Mariner fans finally reached their nirvana on April 21, 2013, when a Daniel McBreen-inspired team in yellow won the Grand Final against the Western Sydney Wanderers at Allianz Stadium.

It was a triumph for the little club, a triumph for the beleaguered region and a triumph for the underdog.

This success had a massive effect on the national team. While Ollie Bozanic, Bernie Ibini and Mitchell Duke did not really “go on with it” in Green and Gold, Matt Ryan and Trent Sainsbury are Socceroo everpresents to this day, while the club also developed Socceroos Tom Rogic and Mustafa Amini, and brought Michael Beauchamp and Alex Wilkinson to international standard.

They also gave Australia Patrick Zwaanswijk, the finest defensive import in A-League history.

****

When a fish rots, as the old saying goes, it starts at the head.

Until 2013, the personalities involved in the running of the organisation were John Singleton, Alex Tobin, Ian Kiernan, Lyall Gorman, John McKay, Peter Turnbull and McKinna. Arnold would not be swayed by Scott Barlow to join Sydney FC back in 2012 on the grounds that he had to “finish the job” at the Mariners. The club was in the hands of men of integrity and principle, who gave the club its culture of success against overwhelming odds.

In 2013, Mike Charlesworth increased his stake in the Mariners, becoming the club’s new chairman. Things would never be the same again.

Some say that Charlesworth saved the club, when it was about to go under. I don’t buy that. There were a few staff payment and superannuation problems, but, given how much leeway the FFA would afford Brisbane Roar’s Bakrie Group a few years later, the Mariners weren’t going anywhere.

Instead, Charlesworth embarked on an aggressive restructure - corporate code for “gutting the place to improve the balance sheet”. Employing cut-price management, he did not give successive coaches the investment in players needed to bring glory days back to the Gosford club. Further alienating Mariner supporters, he agitated for a partial move to North Sydney Oval, which not only went down badly with Sydney FC, but with a large section of the loyal fans in yellow. Here was a chairman who had no affinity for the club’s parochial supporter base, effectively sidelining them in a Clive Palmer – style thought bubble.

The football department, once among the best in the country, went to pieces. Charlesworth presided over the reigns of Tony Walmsley and Paul Okon, whose philosophy was to play attractive, passing football, ostensibly to “entertain the fans”. Without the player quality to play that type of football, or passion to fight for the Mariner cause, they were pretty right up until the time they would concede goals and lose matches, which entertained no one.

If the team went from ugly but effective under McKinna to playing good football and successful under Arnold, they became attractive losers in subsequent seasons. And now, they are just losers. Crowds stay away as the club plummets from one crisis to the next.

What to do now?

Mulvey is gone, but the entire rotten structure remains in place. Charlesworth surely must be forced out. That said, it is no easy task to replace a chairman, who, while keeping his purse strings tightly drawn, is still helping fund the club. Charlesworth is our version of Aston Villa’s “Deadly” Doug Ellis.

If the new FFA has any sense, they will have meetings with Charlesworth and urge him to sell. Perhaps a consortium led by John Singleton could rescue the club. Perhaps the Chinese investors who wanted to sink a fortune into the abortion that was “Southern Expansion” could be taken on a tour of the Central Coast. Maybe someone could take them fishing.

Worse yet, the club’s crisis has given ammunition to those who are pushing their own agenda. “If only we had promotion and relegation, this wouldn’t occur!”, they cry.

Really? Were they calling for promotion and relegation when the Mariners defeated Sydney FC 7-2 that fateful Saturday night 7 years ago? After all, Sydney FC were also in the middle of a chairman-induced crisis.

Were they calling for the little club to be banished from the league when they were winning titles, producing a string of Socceroos in the process?

Like climate change proponents, who jump up and down whenever the weather warms up, and deniers, who do likewise when the mercury drops, the promotion/relegation debate is one which the football community must have. But it must not be done in an opportunistic fashion, or indeed, by opportunists.

The Mariners have gone steadily backwards from the moment Charlesworth assumed control six years ago. Until he is forced out, any other measures are temporary ones, akin to rearranging deckchairs on the Titanic.

They need winners, who will recreate a culture of winning - at all levels of the organisation - who will also have an affinity for the region.

The club needs rescuing.

Charlesworth has held them hostage long enough.
 

adz

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Does anyone know the story behind Charlesworth, how he originally became involved with the club, then 100% (??) owner?

The story mentions John Singleton, Alex Tobin, Ian Kiernan, Lyall Gorman, John McKay, Peter Turnbull and McKinna -- nothing about Charlesworth until he "increased his stake"...
 

Pirate Pete

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Does anyone know the story behind Charlesworth, how he originally became involved with the club, then 100% (??) owner?

The story mentions John Singleton, Alex Tobin, Ian Kiernan, Lyall Gorman, John McKay, Peter Turnbull and McKinna -- nothing about Charlesworth until he "increased his stake"...
I had no luck finding out much about Mike Charlesworth. The first time I looked there was zilch.
Second time I found a Linkedin account. And then his company Mediatel.
But as to any story about how he came to own the club or why. No.
 
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soccer mad

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I'm not sure if this is any good quality wise.
Sorry I don't have time to check.
Thanks for taking the time and sharing vid feels like they are just all just buying time waiting for an offer to come fast . The FFA have also a lot to answer for too you'd think that license holders and investors put Football first as no 1 agreement complete incompetence all round. The game really has become stagnant in this country thier no way attendance have improved if they disenfranchise the coast that would be a big chunk out of the game this will be a massive tight rope affair .Sad to see our club be gutted like fish.
 

Ancient Mariner

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Sent to me by a current long time member of CCM who like me cannot bring himself to attend any further games and interestingly authored by a devout SFC member:
MARINERS HELD HOSTAGE LONG ENOUGH

The Central Coast Mariners, once the little club that could and now the basketcase that has forgotten how, are in the middle of the greatest crisis of their 14 year existence.

- Lost 2-8 to Wellington Phoenix.

- Coach Mike Mulvey given the boot at 1am.

- Stone, motherless last.

- Three coaches sacked in four seasons.

- Wooden spooners in three of the last five seasons, coming 8th on the other two occasions.

And losing not only match after match, season after season, but quality players to other A-League clubs.

Roy O’Donovan, Anthony Caceres, Storm Roux, Trent Buhagiar, Danny De Silva, Lachie Wales, Ross McCormack, Matt Millar. All gone to greener pastures.

And with Millar, CCM were asleep at the wheel when the Jets pounced.

How has it come to this?

Under Lawrie McKinna in 2006-2010, the Mariners played a desperate, physical style that endeared them to local supporters, winning the 2007/8 A-League premiership and losing the 2006 and 2008 Grand Finals. McKinna deserves much off-field credit too, doing plenty of community work to forge a bond between the newly-established Mariners and the region that felt abandoned by every other sporting code.

Following the club’s 2009/10 season, McKinna moved upstairs to become Football and Commercial Manager, paving the way for Graham Arnold to take charge. And, having won the 2011/12 premiership, come second in 2010/11 and 2012/13, and lost the 2011 Grand Final, Mariner fans finally reached their nirvana on April 21, 2013, when a Daniel McBreen-inspired team in yellow won the Grand Final against the Western Sydney Wanderers at Allianz Stadium.

It was a triumph for the little club, a triumph for the beleaguered region and a triumph for the underdog.

This success had a massive effect on the national team. While Ollie Bozanic, Bernie Ibini and Mitchell Duke did not really “go on with it” in Green and Gold, Matt Ryan and Trent Sainsbury are Socceroo everpresents to this day, while the club also developed Socceroos Tom Rogic and Mustafa Amini, and brought Michael Beauchamp and Alex Wilkinson to international standard.

They also gave Australia Patrick Zwaanswijk, the finest defensive import in A-League history.

****

When a fish rots, as the old saying goes, it starts at the head.

Until 2013, the personalities involved in the running of the organisation were John Singleton, Alex Tobin, Ian Kiernan, Lyall Gorman, John McKay, Peter Turnbull and McKinna. Arnold would not be swayed by Scott Barlow to join Sydney FC back in 2012 on the grounds that he had to “finish the job” at the Mariners. The club was in the hands of men of integrity and principle, who gave the club its culture of success against overwhelming odds.

In 2013, Mike Charlesworth increased his stake in the Mariners, becoming the club’s new chairman. Things would never be the same again.

Some say that Charlesworth saved the club, when it was about to go under. I don’t buy that. There were a few staff payment and superannuation problems, but, given how much leeway the FFA would afford Brisbane Roar’s Bakrie Group a few years later, the Mariners weren’t going anywhere.

Instead, Charlesworth embarked on an aggressive restructure - corporate code for “gutting the place to improve the balance sheet”. Employing cut-price management, he did not give successive coaches the investment in players needed to bring glory days back to the Gosford club. Further alienating Mariner supporters, he agitated for a partial move to North Sydney Oval, which not only went down badly with Sydney FC, but with a large section of the loyal fans in yellow. Here was a chairman who had no affinity for the club’s parochial supporter base, effectively sidelining them in a Clive Palmer – style thought bubble.

The football department, once among the best in the country, went to pieces. Charlesworth presided over the reigns of Tony Walmsley and Paul Okon, whose philosophy was to play attractive, passing football, ostensibly to “entertain the fans”. Without the player quality to play that type of football, or passion to fight for the Mariner cause, they were pretty right up until the time they would concede goals and lose matches, which entertained no one.

If the team went from ugly but effective under McKinna to playing good football and successful under Arnold, they became attractive losers in subsequent seasons. And now, they are just losers. Crowds stay away as the club plummets from one crisis to the next.

What to do now?

Mulvey is gone, but the entire rotten structure remains in place. Charlesworth surely must be forced out. That said, it is no easy task to replace a chairman, who, while keeping his purse strings tightly drawn, is still helping fund the club. Charlesworth is our version of Aston Villa’s “Deadly” Doug Ellis.

If the new FFA has any sense, they will have meetings with Charlesworth and urge him to sell. Perhaps a consortium led by John Singleton could rescue the club. Perhaps the Chinese investors who wanted to sink a fortune into the abortion that was “Southern Expansion” could be taken on a tour of the Central Coast. Maybe someone could take them fishing.

Worse yet, the club’s crisis has given ammunition to those who are pushing their own agenda. “If only we had promotion and relegation, this wouldn’t occur!”, they cry.

Really? Were they calling for promotion and relegation when the Mariners defeated Sydney FC 7-2 that fateful Saturday night 7 years ago? After all, Sydney FC were also in the middle of a chairman-induced crisis.

Were they calling for the little club to be banished from the league when they were winning titles, producing a string of Socceroos in the process?

Like climate change proponents, who jump up and down whenever the weather warms up, and deniers, who do likewise when the mercury drops, the promotion/relegation debate is one which the football community must have. But it must not be done in an opportunistic fashion, or indeed, by opportunists.

The Mariners have gone steadily backwards from the moment Charlesworth assumed control six years ago. Until he is forced out, any other measures are temporary ones, akin to rearranging deckchairs on the Titanic.

They need winners, who will recreate a culture of winning - at all levels of the organisation - who will also have an affinity for the region.

The club needs rescuing.

Charlesworth has held them hostage long enough.

This has already been posted on another thread and is attributed to a Facebook post by Saffros Sydney.
There are many false premises here, but arseholes are like opinions, everyone has one.

The few payment problems amounted to $6m.
Charlesworth owns the Club he is not just chairman. To say he must be forced out is ludicrous.
The only body who can force him out is the FFA by resuming the licence and that will be it for CCM.
I can understand a supporter of a rival club wishing that upon us but for any CCM supporter to ask for this is akin to requesting suicide.
 
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Ancient Mariner

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Does anyone know the story behind Charlesworth, how he originally became involved with the club, then 100% (??) owner?

The story mentions John Singleton, Alex Tobin, Ian Kiernan, Lyall Gorman, John McKay, Peter Turnbull and McKinna -- nothing about Charlesworth until he "increased his stake"...

As I understand it the Club was originally owned by Lyall Gorman, Ian Kiernan, and John McKay. I am not sure if Mike Charlesworth came in about the same time as Peter Turnbull who sold out of SFC in season 2 or 3 or whether he was there at the beginning. Lawrie McKinna and, I am not certain about, Alex Tobin had a nominal shareholding of a couple of percent. The FFA owned a proportion of the Club after they had to bail it out in the early days. John Singleton when he had the rights to the stadium coughed up some dollars at one stage but was never a shareholder.

At the time when it looked as if the Club was insolvent with debts of about $6m, the main ownership was Lyall Gorman, Peter Turnbull and Mike Charlesworth. Charlesworth was the only one of the owners who could afford to bail the Club out. He bought the other owners shares, the Club and the debt. I understand that he now owns the Club 100% but stand to be corrected if there are others with minor interests (FFA maybe).

This is all from memory and I am happy to be corrected by anyone who has hard facts or a better memory about our history.
 
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marinermick

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As I understand it the Club was originally owned by Lyall Gorman, Ian Kiernan, and John McKay. I am not sure if Mike Charlesworth came in about the same time as Peter Turnbull who sold out of SFC in season 2 or 3 or whether he was there at the beginning. Lawrie McKinna and, I am not certain about, Alex Tobin had a nominal shareholding of a couple of percent. The FFA owned a proportion of the Club after they had to bail it out in the early days. John Singleton when he had the rights to the stadium coughed up some dollars at one stage but was never a shareholder.

At the time when it looked as if the Club was insolvent with debts of about $6m, the main ownership was Lyall Gorman, Peter Turnbull and Mike Charlesworth. Charlesworth was the only one of the owners who could afford to bail the Club out. He bought the other owners shares, the Club and the debt. I understand that he now owns the Club 100% but stand to be corrected if there are others with minor interests (FFA maybe).

This is all from memory and I am happy to be corrected by anyone who has hard facts or a better memory about our history.

There were lots of minor shareholders as well such as Lawrie McKinna and Central Coast Football.

Charlesworth grabbed the 100% because he demanded that the shareholders either pay for their portion of debt or hand over the shares to him.
 

rbakersmith

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Does anyone know the story behind Charlesworth, how he originally became involved with the club, then 100% (??) owner?

The story mentions John Singleton, Alex Tobin, Ian Kiernan, Lyall Gorman, John McKay, Peter Turnbull and McKinna -- nothing about Charlesworth until he "increased his stake"...

Going back to the ASIC documents from a post in 2015:
  • Charlesworth first came on the scene back in December 2009 when Mariners FC Developments was established - he was a director along with Peter Turnbull and Lyall Gorman.
  • He was then appointed as a director of Central Coast Mariners FC Pty Ltd on 25/1/2010 - the other directors at that time were Kevin McCabe, Peter Turnbull, Bob Graham, Belinda Neal, and Lyall Gorman.
In 2011 Turnbull and McCabe were trying to arrange an investment deal with Sabina Corporation, a property developer based on the Gold Coast, where Sabina would acquire Turnbull's interest in the COE:

A Market Release was issued in August 2011 to ASX announcing that an “agreement in principle” has been reached between the Peter Chen and Peter Turnbull (a well-known accountant and businessman in Sydney) who have known each other for the past ten years and have similar business activities; have agreed to “merge” their business affairs involving their private entities.

Under the merger proposal, Turnbull Group Developments Pty Ltd would join forces with Churchill Nominees Australia Pty Ltd (substantial shareholder in Sabina) in sourcing and establishing all future development projects undertaken by any of the unit trusts. Turnbull’s consultancy activities would also be merged into G8 Consultants Pty Ltd with Turnbull taking half of the 60% presently held by Mr. Chen’s private company; G8 Management Pty Ltd. Sabina retains its 40% interest in the Consultants Unit Trust.

Mr. Turnbull’s private company, Turnbull Group Investments Pty Ltd, is a joint venture between Turnbull’s company and Mr. Kevin McCabe’s Scarborough Group in UK. Mr. McCabe is a successful businessman with involvements throughout Australia and the UK but with a special relationship with China and Hong Kong. He is a director of a major listed public company in China and his expertise will also be of considerable benefit to Sabina and G8. They have signed an Executive Agreement with Sabina where they have agreed to sell their 35% interest (3,500,000 ordinary units at $1.00 each; $3,500,000) in the Mariners FC Development Unit Trust in exchange for fully-paid ordinary shares (14,000,000 fully-paid ordinary shares at 25 cents; $3,500,000) in Sabina Corporation Limited. Sabina Directors have ratified the deal involving the issue of 1,900,000 at 25 cents ordinary shares (representing about 10% of Sabina’s capital issue) and the balance of 12,100,000 ordinary shares also at 25 cents is awaiting shareholder approval at the next General Meeting”

It is expected that Sabina and G8 will provide valuable assistance in the development of the new multi-million dollar complex known as the Mariners “Elite Meets Community“ Sports Campus at Tuggerah in New South Wales. Construction work has started in early August 2011 and The Federal Government has recently announced that it will invest $10 million towards the $39 million project, which will include: two full size soccer fields, grandstand and amenities; a function, event and reception centre for club and community use; ten-allweather sports courts for Five-a-side soccer and other sports use; a heated indoor pool and hydrotherapy centre for community use; a gym and fitness centre for community use; amenities and car parking facilities and upgrade of roundabout; and facilities for delivering educational learning programs

However Sabina's 2012 Annual Report indicates that the deal fell through:
The merger agreement signed in August 2011 with the Turnbull Group where Sabina was to acquire a 35% interest in Mariners FC Development Unit Trust that is developing the $39 million "Centre of Excellence" located in Central Coast in NSW. The deal was subsequently terminated by mutual agreement as the Turnbull Group was unable to fulfill the condition-precent stipulated in the Agreement.

Between Turnbull running into trouble and Gorman being appointed as chairman of WSW, that basically left Charlesworth as the only one who could invest money into the COE (and by extension the club) and so he bought the other two out of Mariners FC Developments in March 2013 and took majority ownership of the club.
 

JackMariner

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Belinda Neal now there's a name that haunts the Central Coast. Waiting for her to have another run of some kind of position in the political landscape relying on the premise that we have short memories well, hell I don't!
This SMH article back in 2013
 
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MagpieMariner

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Belinda's been expelled from the ALP so won't be running any time soon, unless she decides to try as an independent. Highly unlikely.
 

turbo

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I probably shouldn't of divulged that. Far too much red wine.
Can't leave us hanging like that. If what you said is correct it seems inevitable we are an A league audition with zero chance of retention, not to mention probably breaks a lot of rules.
 

LFCMariners

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I'm not sure if this is any good quality wise.
Sorry I don't have time to check.


I feel like I've seen every one of our fans at least once on match-day by now (especially these days), but I don't recall ever seeing that lass in the grey jumper before. (Hello...)

Aside from that, video quality was perfectly fine.

Even if we accept MC isn't eager to spend much on this squad for the forseeable future, it's what he's spending that money on I take issue with. Surely Kennedy isn't the best keeper this club can afford? I'd willingly bet any figure you care to name there are NPL keepers out there who'd do a better job between the sticks than him. Start there. LFC this season vs LFC last season highlights what a difference a good keeper can make to your results and overall points.

Start with the keeper, then re-evaluate certain other players currently on the payroll who really should've been marched with Mulvey before the weekend finished (i.e Hoole)...
 
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Antlion

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I feel like I've seen every one of our fans at least once on match-day by now (especially these days), but I don't recall ever seeing that lass in the grey jumper before. (Hello...)

Aside from that, video quality was perfectly fine.

Even if we accept MC isn't eager to spend much on this squad for the forseeable future, it's what he's spending that money on I take issue with. Surely Kennedy isn't the best keeper this club can afford? I'd willingly bet any figure you care to name there are NPL keepers out there who'd do a better job between the sticks than him. Start there. LFC this season vs LFC last season highlights what a difference a good keeper can make to your results and overall points.

Start with the keeper, then re-evaluate certain other players currently on the payroll who really should've been marched with Mulvey before the weekend finished (i.e Hoole)...
This is a good point. Our spend on the squad is enough to be 'in it', not waaaayyy down the bottom.

We need a decent coach who can attract players and most importantly TRAIN and DEVELOP them as individuals and as a team.
Bugger off the dead wood (Kennedy et al.) and we're in for a not-bottom-of-the-table season which sees our plight diminish.

I genuinely believe the difference between a future and no future as a club comes down to spending on a quality, proven coach. As I've said earlier a decent coach also reduces paying overs for players as they would want to play for the coach.
 

midfielder

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Shaun

Appreciate that you made an effort to speak to the members.

Also appreciate your general over view on our challenges moving forward.

What I disliked was as I saw it an attempt to move the problem to issues other than management has badly let the club down. Whether than be MC or some of his appointees.

We exist in a closed league where punishment for lack of performance does not exist, beyond this we are in a salary capped league were the differences should be nowhere near as stark as they are.

The idea that a series of managers could run this club from England with the odd visit was so absurd nay beyond comical almost a throw back to the 1800's like colonial management by a board of governors from England.

TBH, if we continue with insisting on essentially most major decisions being made from England then we will continue on our current direction.
 

Wombat

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I feel like I've seen every one of our fans at least once on match-day by now (especially these days), but I don't recall ever seeing that lass in the grey jumper before. (Hello...)

Aside from that, video quality was perfectly fine.

Even if we accept MC isn't eager to spend much on this squad for the forseeable future, it's what he's spending that money on I take issue with. Surely Kennedy isn't the best keeper this club can afford? I'd willingly bet any figure you care to name there are NPL keepers out there who'd do a better job between the sticks than him. Start there. LFC this season vs LFC last season highlights what a difference a good keeper can make to your results and overall points.

Start with the keeper, then re-evaluate certain other players currently on the payroll who really should've been marched with Mulvey before the weekend finished (i.e Hoole)...

She was pretty but most likely underage!! Her mum asked a question.
 

JackMariner

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From The World Game
Hutch back?
There are whispers from within the New Leagues Working Group - the body tasked with formulating the structure of the framework for an independently run competition - that the Mariners’ license might be distributed elsewhere, possibly to a second team in Brisbane or even to Canberra.

Five years of failure is weighing heavily on the under-funded franchise and their London-based owner Mike Charlesworth.

Sporting director Mike Phelan, the interim assistant to Ole Gunnar Solskjaer at Manchester United but still officially involved with the Mariners, is due back in Australia during the Premier League's international break next week for crisis talks with Charlesworth.

Newly-appointed directors Anton Tagliaferro, the owner of a club in Malta, and Accenture consultant Kamran Kahn will also be in attendance along with CEO Shaun Mielekamp.

Another hurdle for the Mariners is the competition’s lowest operating budget, with around $200,000 the most they are likely prepared to pay a new coach, with the amount available to replenish a waster-thin squad also the stingiest in the A-League.
 
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