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Tevor

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well, after the blatant coathanger yesterday, it's nice to see that neither the refereeing nor VAR has improved.
Yeah but the Retre one was correct. After our game all Ref's seem to have lost a lot of confidence and I feel the VAR will be useless as they seem very cautious however the coathanger was disgraceful and Milligan looking old and frustrated this year.
 

Capn Gus Bloodbeard

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Yeah but the Retre one was correct. After our game all Ref's seem to have lost a lot of confidence and I feel the VAR will be useless as they seem very cautious however the coathanger was disgraceful and Milligan looking old and frustrated this year.
Yeah, true.

I think the introduction of VAR in general has prevented referees from actually refereeing the damn game.

Look at Retre - even if VAR actually operated correctly (which it isn't here), imagine if that one wasn't given as a red - while I think red was correct, if it was given as a yellow you wouldn't have been surprised so I don't think a VAR would have overturned it as 'clear and obvious' - which is why it's so important for referees to get it right on-field.

Go back to the coathanger - and let's remember that by the laws, off-the-ball contact to the head/neck is a MANDATORY red - so I'd say this non-decision is even worse than anything that happened in our game.

I look at this as an ex-ref assessor - how would you expect this to be dealt with live?

1) While it wasn't in the view the ref focusses on (just because something happens in your field of view, it doesn't mean you've spotted it clearly), I would have thought King would have had a good enough view of this. IMO he was out of position a bit here - chasing this attack he should have veered left rather than run down the centre, but I find that there are a lot of bad positioning habits at this level that cause a lot of problems and lot of missed decisions

2) Near AR - focusing so hard on monitoring the offside line, may have seen it, may have just had a vague awareness of something happening in the corner of their eye.

3) Far AR has the job of constantly scanning the field - they need to glance away to their offside line, but they are also checking the whole field.

4) 4th official - also has the job of constantly scanning the field when they're not managing the benches. They can absolutely raise serious offences to the ref.

On-field, even without wireless comms, refs and ARs use glances at each other to get an indication of whether they're asking for help - you can tell a lot about whether an official has seen an incident and may be asking if you're seen it just from how they glance across the field at you.

With comms, this isn't even necessary - but it just looks to me like the teamwork is nonexistent with VAR. the VAR seems to have removed the responsibility of the other officials to be supporting the referee with stuff like this, which I don't believe was ever supposed to occur.

It means that we have gone from 4 officials having responsibility over an incident, to 2, when VAR should really have meant 5 officials are sharing responsibility.
 

Melange

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Anyone catch the Mel City A Coach interview after the game? went something like... Yeah we were trying to stretch their back three as much as possible so we could exploit their weakness, especially Ziggy Gordon!
 

turbo

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Anyone catch the Mel City A Coach interview after the game? went something like... Yeah we were trying to stretch their back three as much as possible so we could exploit their weakness, especially Ziggy Gordon!
As much as I don’t mind piling on the snake McGowan has been far worse. Look at the goal when Baccus handed it over, he gets caught ball watching and that should be his man.
 

Melange

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As much as I don’t mind piling on the snake McGowan has been far worse. Look at the goal when Baccus handed it over, he gets caught ball watching and that should be his man.
For his heart, effort and enthusiasm I was glad to keep Ziggy, for his skills he was ok at A-league level.

It was his comments after he left that annoyed me.

While not looking to really pile on, as much as anything I found it surprising an opposition coach called out an individual in that way.
 

Big Al

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Anyone catch the Mel City A Coach interview after the game? went something like... Yeah we were trying to stretch their back three as much as possible so we could exploit their weakness, especially Ziggy Gordon!
Didn’t have the sound on but that’s very unusual but massively true.
 

RECKY

I'm an idiot savant without the pesky savant bit
So the fire chickens and Glory had a few Wolves banners up at the ground ...did Wolves play Manly as the opener for the game ?....if so , what a great idea , should be more of it
 

Huddo

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Bobo avoided sanction for kicking out at elsey, blokes is protected, reminds me of when Joel Griffiths wanting to fondle the linemans balls and getting away with it.
 
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sydmariner

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Methcarthur away on a Thursday night and a home derby on a Tuesday ffs
 

RECKY

I'm an idiot savant without the pesky savant bit
Anyone heard what happened to the victory cap’n for grabbing the refs hand/red card etc ? .....gotta be longer than Vukovics ban don’t it
 

turbo

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Anyone heard what happened to the victory cap’n for grabbing the refs hand/red card etc ? .....gotta be longer than Vukovics ban don’t it
The match review committee was looking at it, I don’t recall seeing an outcome yet.
 

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