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Underbelly IV (or the Michael McGurk thread)

FFC Mariner

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Surprised this isnt getting a run.

http://www.theage.com.au/national/mcgurk-murder-mystery-widens-20090907-fd0y.html

McGurk murder mystery widens
JACQUELIN MAGNAY
September 7, 2009

THE captain of the Socceroos, Lucas Neill, and the former NSW planning minister Craig Knowles, have been caught up in the aftermath of the murder of Sydney bagman Michael McGurk.

Mr McGurk had been approached to be a behind-the-scenes financial middleman for an $8 million bid for a Western Sydney A-League team fronted by Neill. Mr Knowles is the chairman of the team, known informally as the Sydney Wanderers.

The news comes as another Western Sydney A-League proposal - headed by the businessman Joe Meissner, collapsed - putting the Football Federation of Australia's plans for a second Sydney team for next year under pressure. In recent months Mr Knowles had been seeking extra business investment for the Wanderers proposal.

Mr McGurk had numerous meetings with Neill's manager and business partner, Paddy Dominguez, late last year and at one point met Neill and the radio announcer Alan Jones.

Last night Mr Dominguez said Mr McGurk's murder would have no impact on the bid, now before the FFA for consideration.

''There is no tie here. Mr McGurk was not a shareholder or an investor. He was somebody we did speak to because we knew he manages money and has very big clients. We put our proposal to him and he spoke to people, but in the end they weren't interested [in investing in the Sydney Wanderers],'' Mr Dominguez said.

''Separate to that, Lucas Neill funds the A-League bid. There are no other investors, no one else. Lucas is the man behind the bid. He is the face of the bid and he is the one who provides the funds for the bid - no one else.''

Australian Securities and Investments Commission records show the company, Sydney Wanderers Football Club, was registered last November with Mr Dominguez and Neill as directors. The registered office and principal place of business is Bentley Smythe in York Street.

Bentley Smythe was the last-resort loan business owned by Mr McGurk. It is believed he was not putting in much of his own money but rather acting as a very interested middleman, using his company to gain financial support from other soccer-keen investors.

But Mr Dominguez said the fact that the Wanderers company was registered at Mr McGurk's office was ''nothing to do with Mr McGurk as an individual''. He said: ''There is a very simple explanation. He rented out office space and I will clarify it for you at a right and appropriate time.''

This year Neill, 31, said he wanted to be the Sydney Wanderers' marquee player, to give back to the sport. He is negotiating with overseas clubs Atletico Madrid and Sunderland for his next contract.

Neill said: "When I'm back in Australia, I want to be giving back as much as I can to the game in the hope that it brings other players on to play for the Socceroos as well as maybe keeping myself involved.''

Mr McGurk's murder came a day after the Western Sydney A League team proposal by Mr Meissner collapsed on Wednesday. Mr Meissner was supposed to supply financial details to the Football Federation but the bid's chairman, the marketing executive Ian Rowden, officially told it that the proof of working capital of about $6 million would not be forthcoming. At the same time he withdrew from his role as chairman of the bid.

Mr Meissner has had a colourful past, being a former world karate champion and professional poker player. But it was his connections to the NSW Labor Party and his convictions for assault and the theft of machine-guns that raised eyebrows. Mr Meissner's boat, Kanzen, became known as the ''Love Boat'' when politicians and organised crime figures consorted with a prostitute on it more than 20 years ago.
 
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jiggles

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Joe Miessner was said to have a bid in for Western Sydney yeah? He's big underground... used to work for his ex wife (he scary :( ) So reckon its all connected. Ooooh. I feel for his poor kid though :( Imagine seeing your dad shot in the face...
 

FFC Mariner

Well-Known Member
Dibo and Joe M are big mates I hear....................

Planning in NSW corrupt.............wow, who would have ever guessed lol
 

FFC Mariner

Well-Known Member
Rees obviously bleieves his guys are clean.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/09/09/2680983.htm?section=justin

Upper house enquiry announced and guess what? Ex Union figures turned pollies named - more spring cleaning by Rees? Della gone, Planning/sartor next?
 

Jazzie

Sheer joy at beating the scum :)
FFC Mariner said:
Rees obviously bleieves his guys are clean.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/09/09/2680983.htm?section=justin

Upper house enquiry announced and guess what? Ex Union figures turned pollies named - more spring cleaning by Rees? Della gone, Planning/sartor next?

Oh, yes ... yes.., please, please!!!
 

dibo

Well-Known Member
FFC Mariner said:
Rees obviously bleieves his guys are clean.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/09/09/2680983.htm?section=justin

Upper house enquiry announced and guess what? Ex Union figures turned pollies named - more spring cleaning by Rees? Della gone, Planning/sartor next?

sartor's not ex-union. he's an independent whose party membership had the ink still drying on it when he was preselected.
 

FFC Mariner

Well-Known Member
Union ref was Robbo and the sale of Union property via middle man.

A Royal enquiry and the shit will hit the fan big time.

Tripodi and Obeid's names seem linked as per usual.
 

dibo

Well-Known Member
Alright, let's play.

NSW parliament to probe McGurk links

Posted Wed Sep 9, 2009 1:30pm AEST
Updated Wed Sep 9, 2009 3:29pm AEST
Michael McGurk has been linked to a Sydney property developer.

Michael McGurk has been linked to a Sydney property developer. (AAP: Mick Tsikas (file photo))

    * Video: McGurk murder prompts ICAC inquiry (Lateline)
    * Video: NSW Opposition calls for McGurk murder tape inquiry (The Midday Report)
    * Related Story: McGurk 'visited Parliament' before shooting
    * Related Story: Murder inquiry calls just a stunt: Rees

The New South Wales Parliament will inquire into decisions concerning a Sydney property developer who has been linked to slain businessman Michael McGurk.

In what appears to be an about-face by the State Government, the Upper House inquiry will look into land and planning decisions involving interests held by Ron Medich Properties and Roy Medich Properties at Badgery's Creek in Sydney's west.

It has been claimed that Michael McGurk had a recording alleging Labor figures had accepted bribes in return for favourable planning decisions, and that he had been attempting to extract money from Ron Medich for the tape.

Earlier this week Mr Rees labelled opposition calls for an inquiry about the claims a 'political stunt.'

But today in parliament the Police Minister, Tony Kelly, proposed amendments to broaden the inquiry's scope to include the roles any members of parliament or political party had in dealing with the land.

The amendments were accepted.

The opposition leader Barry O'Farrell says the inquiry's focus will be narrow.

"What we're singling out is a public concern around issues involving a parcel of land,' he said

"The Upper House inquiry is into the planning system around that. It's not into the murder, it's not into the corruption allegations.

"It's into the planning system...and that's why this inquiry is appropriate."

Mr O'Farrell also took a swipe at the Government's change of heart.

"Nathan Rees has demonstrated he's got the attention span of a goldfish," he said.

"Yesterday this was absurd and stupid. Today his Upper House members have voted for it."

The inquiry has a reporting date of November 20.

Earlier this week the Independent Commission Against Corruption (ICAC) announced that it had begun a preliminary investigation into bribery allegations in the wake of Mr McGurk's death.

Union dispute

Meanwhile, the state opposition has tried to drag the Corrective Services Minister, John Robertson, into the McGurk controversy.

In parliament, the opposition asked Mr Robertson about a dispute he had with Mr McGurk when he was the head of Unions New South Wales.

The dispute centred around the sale of the Currawong site in Sydney's north.

Mr Robertson says he had no recent contact with Mr McGurk.

"Mr President, Mr McGurk was one member of an unsuccessful group that failed in their bid for Currawong," he told the House.

"My understanding is that I had two meetings with Mr McGurk when I was secretary of Unions NSW and no further contact."

The way this works out is that the Government has:

a) looked at the numbers in the upper house and realised that there's going to be a probe one way or another and wants to ensure that they get their say about what it's about, and;

b) had a dig around at what the inquiry could look into and they've found something juicy on the other side of the aisle.

a) is all about basic political reality. b) on the other hand I've only got a hunch about, based on the quotes. Government peeps talking about a wide ranging enquiry, the Opposition talking about a tight focus.

Both sides will have an idea already about what could be found through the inquiry already and they know what they fear will be found. That could well mean that the Opposition have only one thing to look for, but I reckon that the Government smells a bit more around.

There's a lot of shit in the air at the moment, I'd laugh really hard if great lumps of it start to land on the Opposition.

There's nothing in the article that suggests ICAC are looking at the Currawong thing (are they taking *all* their lines from Piers Akerman? fark...). The focus is on the Medich properties. What will be found there remains to be seen.
 

FFC Mariner

Well-Known Member
Personally I expect there are bent people on both sides, its likely that the current NSW Govt will be able to receive more because they are the decision makers.

A Parliamentary enquiry is right out of the Sir Humphrey play book (look like you are doing something but not really)

Usually in these things someone will crack and come forward
 

dibo

Well-Known Member
Another Sir Humphrey line - never agree to an inquiry unless you know exactly what it will find. Each side may sacrifice a couple of pawns here.
 

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