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The Nix are winning over the Rugby Media

midfielder

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The article below is from the NZ Herald (NZ biggest newspaper) and from one of their chief RU journalist.

He talks about how the Nix's management have let the crowd have the chance to jeer and shout...

At Aussie I hate the way the ground announcer has to speak right up to and sometimes past the kick off...

At BT this is also starting to happen as the last adds and the ground announcer i think feeling no sound time is dead time...

The hope this article by Chris Rattue is read by our management and FFA... interesting to read how good the Nix are at creating a good feel...

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/soccer-football/news/article.cfm?c_id=86&objectid=10628039&pnum=0

Playoff excitement is music to the ears
By Chris Rattue

Wellington Phoenix fans have been thrilled by their team's successful run this season. Photo / Getty Images
Soccer is suddenly top of the pops - and without a song.

The stunning, exhilarating A-League playoff match in Wellington on Sunday - when the Phoenix beat Perth via a penalty shootout - was as good as sport has been in this country for many a year.

Not since the days when Richard Hadlee was in his prime and one-day cricket on the rise have we witnessed such spontaneous jubilation and a crescendo of noise out of a New Zealand stadium to match the soccer scenes from Wellington this year.

Sunday's wildly enjoyable playoff game was - to be brutally honest - decidedly A-League in standard, but the crowd lifted it way beyond that.

The whole Phoenix organisation deserves a mighty congratulation for the success of this season. Ricki Herbert has pieced together an excellent and entertaining side that has won the hearts of a willing audience.

What a pleasure, to enjoy a real sporting atmosphere, and not one ruined by the sort of musical interludes that have demeaned rugby and cricket.


Yes, there were a few bars of music on Sunday but only as the players prepared for the penalty shootout. This was not down to the Phoenix either, because playoff matches are run by Football Federation Australia (FFA).

Usually, there is some music at the Wellington stadium as the crowd filters into the ground, but that's about all folks.

The crowd is allowed to rule, as it also did so magnificently when the All Whites beat Bahrain to qualify for the World Cup finals.

Swamping sport with pop songs sends out a message all right - that your event can't stand on its own two legs.

Crowds should be left to create their own, genuine, atmosphere - both good and bad. If the game is rubbish, or your team stinks, then a decent round of booing is well in order if the crowd feels so inclined.

As Wellingtonians have shown, sport should be a blank canvas on which you can paint your own atmosphere.

Gaps in the play are there to discuss the game, or make new friends, or scream and yell as you please, and not to have yet another yawn, yawn, yawn Jordan Luck ditty shoved down the ear drums.

Phoenix officials told me the club deliberately canned the music to let the crowd reaction thrive. The Phoenix have been heartily rewarded, including with a stretch of 18 games without defeat at home.

The players have told club boss Tony Pignata that while there may be only 9000 people in the stands sometimes, the number feels more like 20,000.

Yes, soccer's continuity means there are fewer gaps to fill compared to other sports. But we used to revel in rugby and cricket without a faceless DJ implying that we weren't capable of enjoying a sport for the sport's sake.

Roll on the Phoenix, without the rock.

* The FFA must step up the campaign to secure the Phoenix's future in the A-League. Believe it or not, the new darlings of the competition have a licence only until the end of next season, and a threat still hangs over the club's head.

Leading Australian soccer pundit Michael Cockerill yesterday signalled just how much events have turned. Whereas once New Zealand soccer needed help from across the Tasman, the A-League now needs the vibrant Phoenix club and the outstanding Wellington crowds, he wrote.

Only 4000 people turned up to watch Newcastle beat the Gold Coast in a playoff; there were nearly 25,000 at Westpac Stadium on Sunday.

Not only is this a good look for the A-League, which competes in a very tough market, but Football Federation Australia will be doing cartwheels because it takes the risk and profit from playoff games.

The Phoenix estimate that the FFA would have made $770,000 from Sunday's game, and the next semifinal against Newcastle on March 7 is headed for a sellout and will be worth even more.

Australia is in the Asian federation, having quit Oceania. The powerful Asian conference leader Mohammed Bin Hammam wants the Phoenix thrown out of the A-League because New Zealand is in the Oceania region.

Furthermore, should the Phoenix survive he wants them to operate under the standard A-League quota system of five overseas players, with New Zealanders in the Phoenix regarded as overseas players (the Asian Champions League quota is three overseas players - something the Phoenix would happily abide by).

World soccer works hard to promote the game in every country, developing professional leagues while avoiding the creation of soccer ghettos.

These are noble aims and the rules work in most situations.

So Hammam's position is not unreasonable under normal circumstances. But there is no hope of a professional league ever being sustained in New Zealand. And Oceania is so isolated and weak that it makes sense for the region to tap into the strength of Australian and Asian soccer.

The game is battling on quite well as shown by Auckland City doing remarkably well at this year's World Club Championships, although the Phoenix club is starting to cast a long shadow.

The crucial point, however, is that the Phoenix are succeeding beyond many of our wildest dreams. Soccer-mad Kiwi kids have a very tangible professional future to aim for. The world game is finally back on the rise in New Zealand, and to destroy the Phoenix would be to send the game back to the dark ages. To keep waving an axe over the club's head is ridiculous.

Commonsense, you feel, will prevail. Fifa leader Sepp Blatter is in the Phoenix's corner.

But the time has come for resolution. The Phoenix are desperate for security in the form of Asia's approval and the standard 10-year A-League licence. The club needs this, so it can continue to build a squad, satisfy sponsors and keep the game charging forward in this country.
 

FFC Mariner

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Both Rugby codes need to put music in because their games are so tedious with no spontaneous excitement.

Also, their crowds are used to being mute and waiting for entertainment ot be presented to them. Thats why the atmosphere is always rubbish.
 

Harsulas_SFC

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Apparently at 4 this afternoon on the first day of public sales more than 16k tickets had been sold to the Jest game... with 10 days to go.  The comparison is 18k sold 2 days before the Perf game.... possible sellout me thinks.  C'mon Nux!
 

Harsulas_SFC

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Scratch that... Nux twitter feed apparantly reporting over 20k tickets sold, first day of public sales.  Sell out, even a full week before the game, all but guaranteed one would imagine.
 

Harsulas_SFC

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FFC Mariner said:
Laugh my head off if they made the ACL and NZ players wer classed as foreign under the rules

Apparently what will happen if they make it will be that Aussies will be coutned as foreigners
 

midfielder

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I hope the Nix go on to win now... hope I have not put the mokia on em ... would love them to smash the Scum ... and belt SFC ....

Also Sunday last week around 8:30 TV 3, one of NZ free to air stations .. replayed the Perth V Glory and paid for the right to do it ... and it rated well ...

They must be doing something right and the owner Tony S, has put the coin to fund them for the next 10 years ... will be a big lost if AFC kick them out or allow only 3 NZerders in the team..
 

midfielder

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Some rugby players went to see Nix play and want rugby fans to create the same feel... from the article ...I was sorry to see so much passion for soccer ... ROFL


http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/sport/rugby/3366344/Hurricanes-duo-call-for-fans-to-get-more-vocal
 

curious

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midfielder said:
Some rugby players went to see Nix play and want rugby fans to create the same feel... from the article ...I was sorry to see so much passion for soccer ... ROFL


http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/sport/rugby/3366344/Hurricanes-duo-call-for-fans-to-get-more-vocal
naughty, MF.... as quoted and in context,
"It was wonderful. In a way it was kind of disappointing to see such [passionate] support for a soccer game," he said. "I was proud to be a part of it and experience it, but it would be great to see that for our games.
"The atmosphere was just amazing to be a part of for that game."

Though Phoenix are the single NZ representative in the aleague and can use the 'NZ v Oz' rivalry, they can certainly teach most of their Oz counterparts how to to promote a club and deserve all their present success. They're making any argument against their long term inclusion, more difficult by the day.
 

FFC Mariner

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As I understand it, the AFC arent saying that Australia cant have a franchise in a different region. They are simply insisting that if it is an Australian club that has been relocated to NZ then it must have no more that 4 (or is it5?) non Aussies in the team - same rules that apply to CCM by the way.

Kiwis are then by default foreign players if Nux are an Aussie side

Unless NZ can leave Oceania and join an expanded Asian Federation (the smart move) then its hard to see how you could mount a credible arguement against it TBH
 

Jesus

Jesus
It will be odd if nix makes the ACL and the rules will change. They do not have a licence from the end of the season apparently, so if they didnt get renewed would not get the spot i presume?

Though i think the AFC rules which have NZ as foreigners in the acl, so could only play 3 of them in a game, continue til 2011 or 2012
 

Harsulas_SFC

Well-Known Member
FFC Mariner said:
As I understand it, the AFC arent saying that Australia cant have a franchise in a different region. They are simply insisting that if it is an Australian club that has been relocated to NZ then it must have no more that 4 (or is it5?) non Aussies in the team - same rules that apply to CCM by the way.

Kiwis are then by default foreign players if Nux are an Aussie side

Unless NZ can leave Oceania and join an expanded Asian Federation (the smart move) then its hard to see how you could mount a credible arguement against it TBH

I believe that for purposes of them playing AFC agreed that until 2011 if they make it, kiwis will count as local players and aussies as foreigners.... which is also handy for them as aussies count as the 1 in the 3 + 1 rule.
 

kevrenor

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Jerome said:
there were a number of hurricanes guernseys
in the tin can today!! up the nux!

Lots of yellow fever t-shirts on lovely ladies saying ... "the first time is always special"(class!)
 

MrCelery

Well-Known Member
Brilliant game and atmosphere by the 'Nix'. Not the least because they booted the Scum out of the Finals.

From basket-case to what we saw last night is an amazing turn around. The Scum had a similarly big turn around on the park from wooden spooners last season, usually reserved for the NZ team, to putting on a good Finals fight in Wellington.

However, that's where the similarities end. Football in Newcastle is still a basket-case off the field with Con Constantine and his cronies in charge. If that game was played in Newcastle, the crowd would be lucky to top 6,000, with most of them Kiwis.

Football will never progress in Newcastle with the set up they currently have.

Here's hoping that we too can turn around our worst ever season and get back to finals football again next season.
 

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