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Rd 17 - Perth Glory (Away) V Mariners

Ancient Mariner

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Reading all these comments posted last night, now, in the clear light of dawn really make me wonder how many here have memories worse than mine.
Can't you remember a few short years ago eating with a wooden spoon?
FFS we are more than half way through the season and are in f***ing second place in the league. With no money to buy players but only behind oil money sheik petroleum dollars massive organisation.
Yet many here want to crucify half the players who have got us here for being inconsistent.

Did everyone here become so addicted to goo in the bad years that they still have to keep goo feasting even when we are at least respectable?

Football fans, sheesh !:doh:
 

Ads

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I think it’s more the case that we have seen how bloody good the lads can play, individually and as a team so we know their potential.

But haven’t seen them replicate those performances we know they are capable of.

We have gone from an up their arse, front facing defence to an often chasing and leaving big gaps.

And of-course we just can’t seem to take advantage of all this amazing space we have wide when we get to their front third we even often get around their fullback into the box but can’t find the final ball.

We seem to wait to long outside their 18yard and allows them to set their defence, goals come from early balls which is a part of our game that has disappeared.

I think Moreshe and DWH can really help in this space hopefully and have the pace to demand a ball through rather than flicks, tricks and blocked shots.
 

marinermick

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I think it’s more the case that we have seen how bloody good the lads can play, individually and as a team so we know their potential.

But haven’t seen them replicate those performances we know they are capable of.

We have gone from an up their arse, front facing defence to an often chasing and leaving big gaps.

And of-course we just can’t seem to take advantage of all this amazing space we have wide when we get to their front third we even often get around their fullback into the box but can’t find the final ball.

We seem to wait to long outside their 18yard and allows them to set their defence, goals come from early balls which is a part of our game that has disappeared.

I think Moreshe and DWH can really help in this space hopefully and have the pace to demand a ball through rather than flicks, tricks and blocked shots.

You hit the mail on the head. We have high expectations of this team because of what we have seen and should rightfully be disappointed drawing away to Perth.

As an example Kaltak has shown some incredible defensive moments this season yet:
- he couldn’t hold Taggart without fouling him despite his big frame
- had his arms out in the box when someone was crossing

These are two very basic defensive mistakes that ultimately cost us the game.

Monty was seething with the result post game. Are we not allowed to have similar feelings because we were poo five years ago?
 
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TC Redline

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Watching the game last night i thought my eyes were going and then watching it again now and I have to say this ground has to be the Worst broadcast viewing ground around. Yep Paramount is crap but whether its the light or the camera angle or the contrasts behind the ball but a hard hit shot you can hardly see it.
 

Corsair

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Watching the game last night i thought my eyes were going and then watching it again now and I have to say this ground has to be the Worst broadcast viewing ground around. Yep Paramount is crap but whether its the light or the camera angle or the contrasts behind the ball but a hard hit shot you can hardly see it.
Yeah I struggled with it too. I reckon it'd be a fun ground live though.
 

Hello Sailor

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I didnt stay up for the game and just watched the replay this morning. I havent read the forum so apologies if I double up on others' comments. Fantastic game. End to end, woodwork hit at least twice by us. A game of no goals in open play or set pieces other than penalties. We could have argued that we deserved another pen but what a wild ride. We must have had at least fifteen corners, and a huge amount of possession. On balance I think we deserved a win. AND again, we come back from behind-that takes self belief and we've done it so often now that the opposition cant feel comfortable with one a one or two goal lead. Nice to have the depth in defence, in the mids, and in the attack. I dont think anyone had a bad game.
 

Tevor

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I’m not down in the dumps as I was happy before kickoff to take a point in this game as Perth are a bit of a bogey team for us the way they play.

We were very wasteful and I must admit I was pretty nervous with both our Pens as it seemed like one of those games. Tough trip and even tougher ground to play at.

Kaltak looked mentally fragile after his second red and I thought Hall should have stayed as a starter but hey I couldn’t argue too much about Kaltak not starting. Need to fix his demons if he is starting against the Fire Chickens. Triantis had tape on his legs and was subbed so perhaps we need to manage his work load better as we need him fit and firing for the run to the end of the season

Niz was great but just wish he would have a shot. Maybe we need psych to come in and help some of these lads.

Great to see Jnr back and he did well for his first run. Theo is cursed at the moment and just can’t get past the woodwork, I can feel one coming soon though. He seemed to struggle with the pitch as his ball control wasn’t that great. The Garry looked hungry for a goal which is good to see and he will be great competition for Faz.

Bring on Friday night.
 

Coastalraider

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If Niz took 10% of the shots that McGarry did…

I like the confidence but man he was getting a bit wild last night. We do employ people whose specialty is scoring goals, and in the meantime his excitement created a butt tonne of space in behind which kept leaving Kaltak exposed.
 

Ancient Mariner

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I think it’s more the case that we have seen how bloody good the lads can play, individually and as a team so we know their potential.

But haven’t seen them replicate those performances we know they are capable of.

We have gone from an up their arse, front facing defence to an often chasing and leaving big gaps.

And of-course we just can’t seem to take advantage of all this amazing space we have wide when we get to their front third we even often get around their fullback into the box but can’t find the final ball.

We seem to wait to long outside their 18yard and allows them to set their defence, goals come from early balls which is a part of our game that has disappeared.

I think Moreshe and DWH can really help in this space hopefully and have the pace to demand a ball through rather than flicks, tricks and blocked shots.
Absolutely no arguments with that, even if it may be too much to ask of a team made up a heap of up and commer possibles salted with a bunch of experienced could have, should have, would have been, maybes.
This group as individuals are playing their best football. They may be inconsistent but they are playing better with us than they have with other clubs, eg Silverra, Triantis....

What I do not like is the death riding of individuals that goes on here. Last year it was Beni until people had to eat their words and which is starting to begin again. This year it is Kaltak who makes mistakes but many managers of other clubs in the league would give their left nut to have him in the squad. Similarly Tulio and even Danny.

Individuals and teams go through bad patches it is the nature of the game. Criticism of mistakes is part of the reason to have a forum however when that criticism reaches a level that blinds people to the good they are doing and their value to the team it becomes annoying.

I remember many years ago when Wayne Bennett criticised Wally Lewis for making too many mistakes. Lewis' reply was that if he did not try things he would not make mistakes.

The team last night were not that bad and should have jagged a win. A good result.

To make last ditch, brilliant goal saving tackles in the box sometimes will go wrong, trying to pull off impossible passes to put someone in on goal will often give the ball away, as well trying something totally outrageous to beat an opposing player.

These guys are worth it, especially as many are playing above their possible pay grade. Enjoy and make the most of them. We watched Hoole and his like too often in the past.
 
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