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Old Socceroos Consulted by FFA

kevrenor

Well-Known Member
Sometimes the FFA surprises themselves by almost getting something right:

"FFA Media Release
12 March 2008
FOOTBALL WELCOMES ITS HISTORY

Former Socceroos gain a voice

A group of former Socceroo players,  with a combined  playing  tally of
nearly 400 caps spread over half a century, today gathered for an
historic meeting with Football Federation Australia (FFA).

The group met with FFA CEO, Ben Buckley,  and Board member, Phil
Wolanski, to discuss a variety of issues concerned with the history of
Australian football and the contribution made by national team players.

"As football continues to experience huge growth and popularity, it is
vitally important that we recognise the great history of the code and
also the players who have made significant contributions representing
Australia,"  Buckley said.

Amongst the group were long-serving Australian captains in Alex Tobin
and Charlie Yankos , as well as legendary striker Ray Baartz, joined by
former team-mate John Watkiss, 1956 Olympian Ted Smith, Doug Wendt
(debuted 1955), Denis Yaager (1970) and Kimon Taliadoros (1990).
(Another former captain, Paul Okon, is also a member of the group but
was unable to attend.)

The issues discussed were the establishment of a  Socceroo Club (a
player alumni), a mentoring program comprised of former Socceroos, the
establishment of an 'FA Cup' style competition, how to recognise the
game's history and capture memorabilia, and the establishment of an
annual football oration.

"Football has a history in Australia which stretches back 128 years, and
it is one in which all football fans, as well as all Australians, should
be proud. 

"I am delighted that those who have worn the green and gold have a voice
to provide advice and input to what we're doing."

Buckley said that FFA will work with the members represented on the
group to address a range of issues of mutual interest on behalf of all
Socceroos.

ENDS

Brief biographies on the group are detailed below. 

Biographies:

Ray BAARTZ
Born: 6 March 1947, Newcastle, NSW
Position: Attacker
Socceroo honours: 59 appearances (21 goals) [1967-1974]
48 A internationals (18 goals) / 11 non-A internationals (3 goals)
Club career: Adamstown Rosebud (NNSW), Manchester United (ENG), Hakoah
(NSW)

Despite injury curtailing his career at the age of 27, Baartz is
recognised as one of the greatest players to ever pull on the Socceroo
shirt.

Baartz was a regular throughout the 1970 and 1974 World Cup qualifying
campaigns, and was the only player to start every qualifying match
during this period, scoring numerous crucial goals along the way.
However in Australia's final practice match before heading off to the
1974 World Cup, against Uruguay at the Sydney Sports Ground, his career
suddenly and tragically ended.  A blow behind play by Uruguay's Luis
Garisto ruptured an artery in Baartz's neck - the artery haemorrhaged,
causing interference with his brain and leaving him partly and
temporarily paralysed.

Baartz would have potentially gone on to hold appearance and goalscoring
records for the Socceroos had he maintained his record which stood at 48
A international caps and 18 goals at the time his career ended.

Born and raised in Newcastle, Baartz's club career was equally
impressive.  He joined his local club Adamstown where he impressed from
a young age, and he soon attained a scholarship with Manchester United
in 1963, becoming one of the pioneering 'Aussies Abroad'.  He returned
to Adamstown in 1966 and was soon snapped up by Hakoah winning numerous
domestic honours in his eight seasons with the Sydney club.

After his forced early retirement Baartz moved back to Newcastle, he
played a major role in the formation of the Newcastle KB United NSL
club, and until recently managed his own successful sports store.

Ted SMITH
Born: 24 September 1935, Melbourne
Position: Left Wing
Australian national team: 2 A appearances, 1956 (Olympic Games)
Club career: Preston (Victoria), Moreland, (Victoria), South Melbourne
(Victoria), Hakoah (Victoria)

Ted Smith had the honour of being amongst a select band of footballers
to represent Australia at our first appearance on the stage - the 1956
Olympic Games. 

A speedy left winger, Smith represented Victoria on many occasions in a
glittering career which largely took place during Australia's absence
from international football in the late 50's and early 60's.

He won silverware with Moreland and South Melbourne, and was runner-up
in the Australia Cup with Hakoah in 1967.  Ted then went on to coach
firstly Moreland in the State League and be assistant coach at South
Melbourne in the National Soccer League.

He has been a member of the Australian football Hall of Fame Honours
Committee since it's inception in 1996, and is actively involved in the
Socceroo Club.

Paul OKON
Born: 5 April 1972, Sydney, NSW
Position: Midfielder/Defender
Socceroo honours: 37 appearances (1 goal) [1990-2003]
28 A internationals (24 as captain) / 9 non-A internationals (1 goal)
Club career: Marconi (NSW), Club Brugge (BEL), Lazio (ITA), Fiorentina
(ITA), Middlesbrough (ENG), Watford (ENG), Leeds United (ENG), Vicenza
(ITA), Oostende (BEL), Apoel Lefkosia (CYP), Newcastle Jets (NSW)

A skilful player with a sharp footballing brain, Paul became one of
Australia's most capped Socceroo captains and he was also the first
Australian to enjoy lengthy playing success in the Italian Serie A.

He made his NSL debut for Marconi in 1989 aged just 17, and captained
the Australian Under 20 side at the 1991 FIFA U20 World Cup in Portugal,
leading the Young Socceroos to a semi-final appearance.  An
inspirational player amongst a 'golden generation', he also took part in
the 1992 Olympic Games in Barcelona where Australia also reached the
semi-final stage.

He made his senior national team debut in 1990 aged just 18, ultimately
playing with the Socceroos for 13 years; his senior national team career
included a captain's stint during the 2001 FIFA Confederations Cup
(where Australia lost narrowly to the world's number one and two teams
at the time, France and Brazil) and in the 2002 FIFA World Cup
qualifiers.

His individual player honours include twice Australian U-21 player of
the year (1990, 1991), Belgian Player of the year (1995/96) and Oceania
Footballer of the Year (1996).

His move from Club Brugge to Lazio in 1996 was reported to be on a $1.2
million transfer, the record highest-valued transfer for any Australian
player at the time. He also played for Fiorentina and also Middlesbrough
and Leeds United in the English Premier League.

With his career at a high in 1996 he was struck down with a serious leg
injury, drastically restricting his first team appearances from 1996 to
2000.

Kimon TALIADOROS
Born: 28.3.68, Durban, South Africa
Position: Attacker
Socceroo honours: 9 appearances (2 goals) [1990-1993]
4 A internationals / 5 non-A internationals (2 goals)
Club career: South Melbourne (Vic), Marconi (NSW), Sydney Olympic (NSW),
Collingwood (Vic), Parramatta Power (NSW)

A prolific goalscorer in the National Soccer League, Kimon also
represented Australia on nine occasions, having moved from South Africa
at a young age.

He was top scorer in the National Soccer League in 1992, with that
honour sandwiched between championship wins with firstly South Melbourne
and
then Marconi.

In October 1993, Kimon became the PFA's inaugural Chief Executive, a
position he served until June 1995.  He then served as President for
three years, where during his tenure the PFA secured its first major
National Soccer League Collective Bargaining Agreement and struck two
major CBA's for the Socceroos.

Alex TOBIN
Born: 3 November 1965, Melbourne, Vic
Position: Defender
Socceroo honours: 113 appearances (3 goals) [1988-1999]
87 A internationals (2 goals) / 26 non-A internationals (1 goal)
(highest "A" capped player in Australian history)
Club career: Adelaide City (SA), Parramatta Power (NSW), Northern Spirit
(NSW)

Alex made his senior debut for Adelaide City in the 1984 National Soccer
League and amassed 522 appearances, most with Adelaide City before
joining Parramatta Power and ending his playing career with Northern
Spirit. He helped Adelaide City to three NSL titles and two Australian
Cups and made the most appearances for any player in Australian national
domestic competition.

A central defender, he also became Australia's most capped Socceroo
appearing in 87 full internationals and a total of 113 times for
Australia in all matches. He made his debut for Australia in 1988 and
played his last international against Manchester United in 1999.

He featured in two World Cup campaigns and with 30 appearances as
Socceroo captain, lies behind only Peter Wilson and Paul Wade as
Australia's most capped skipper.

Since retiring, Alex has been Development Manager with the Central Coast
Mariners since the inception of the club, and was assistant coach for
the Socceroos in their international match against Nigeria last
November.

Alex joined an elite group last year with induction into the Hall of
Champions in the Australian football Hall of Fame.

John WATKISS
Born: 28 March 1941, Willenshall, England
Position: Utility
Socceroo honours: 31 appearances (4 goals) [1965-1974]
23 A internationals (2 goals) / 8 non-A internationals (2 goals)
Club career: Canterbury (NSW), APIA Leichhardt (NSW), Hakoah (NSW),
Sutherland (NSW)

John Watkiss was a regular in the Socceroo shirt during the 1960s with
his international career culminating with inclusion in the Australian
World Cup squad in 1974.

He played virtually every game of the 1970 campaign scoring a crucial
goal in the play-off against Israel where the Socceroos fell agonisingly
short of a first World Cup qualification.

Having moved to Sydney from England at a young age, Watkiss played for
the top Sydney clubs in his domestic career, appearing in an astonishing
11 Grand Finals in 19 seasons.  He started with the 'Canterbury Babes'
in 1957 alongside a new generation of young stars including Johnny
Warren.  Indeed the careers of the two Johnny's mirrored each other,
even growing up together in the Sydney suburb of Botany.  There was
further success for Watkiss with APIA and Hakoah, where he was the
league's top scorer in 1964 and the player of the year in 1971.

He commenced his career as a striker but by the end of the career was
captain-coach of the Sutherland Sharks often playing in defence.  He had
great success with the Sharks remarkably winning the league's player of
the year in 1977 at the ripe old age of 37, and then leading the club to
their first championship in 1978.

John was an inaugural inductee into the Australian football Hall of Fame
in 1999.

Doug WENDT
Born: 1928, Newcastle.
Position: Midfielder
Socceroo honours: 5 appearances [1953-1955]
1 A international / 4 non-A internationals
Club career: Adamstown Rosebud (NNSW), Auburn (NSW), Gladesville (NSW),
Sydney Austral (NSW)

Doug Wendt played one full international and four non-A internationals
for Australia at left back & left half against the likes South China,
New Zealand and South Africa in mid 1950s and also represented NSW for
eight years where he captained the State on many occasions.

Also a gifted cricketer, Doug decided to concentrate on football and
quickly made an impact with his local club Adamstown Rosebud.  He moved
to Sydney in 1951 for work reasons and joined the Auburn club where he
played for eight seasons with Auburn, Gladesville and Sydney Australs
before retiring in 1959 through injury.

He was inducted into the Hunter Region Sporting Hall of Fame in 2006.


Dennis YAAGER
Born: Sydney, NSW
Position: Attacker
Socceroo honours: 11 appearances [1970]
2 A internationals / 9 non-A internationals
Club career: Canterbury (NSW), Hakoah (NSW), Sydney Croatia (NSW)

Sydney-born striker who played 11 times in the green and gold all during
1970.  He was one of the first Australians to try his luck overseas,
having a brief stint with English giants Everton in 1964.

Doug played with top Sydney outfits of the day including Canterbury,
Hakoah and Sydney Croatia winning the NSW Championship in 1968.

Charlie YANKOS
Born: 29 May 1961, Melbourne, Vic
Position: Defender
Socceroo honours: 86 appearances (11 goals) [1983-1990]
49 A internationals (7 goals) / 37 non-A internationals (4 goals)
Australian captain: 1986-1990 (including 30 A internationals)
Club career: Heidelberg (Vic), West Adelaide (SA), APIA Leichhardt
(NSW), Blacktown City (NSW), Wollongong Wolves (NSW) 

Alongside Alex Tobin, Charlie Yankos captained Australia more times than
anyone else except for Peter Wilson and Paul Wade.  Yankos was an
inspirational leader during a period of significant growth and success
on the international stage for the Socceroos.  Under his leadership the
Socceroos scored a famous win over Yugoslavia at the 88 Olympics, and
most memorably against reigning world champions Argentina the same year.
His thunderous free-kicks are legendary and he scored a number of
crucial long-range goals while wearing the green and gold.

He had sixteen seasons in the National Soccer League with five clubs,
winning the national championship with APIA Leichhardt in 1987.

Charlie was an inaugural inductee into the Australian football Hall of
Fame in 1999."

Good sort of initiative
 

serious14

Well-Known Member
FFA Cup!!!!

Bring it the f*ck on....... South Melbourne vs. Melbourne Victory at the Telstra Dome.    OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH YEAH!!!!
 

marinersman

Well-Known Member
It's absolutely fantastic news. It's high time we acknowledged and recognised former Socceroos, their contribution and the history of the game.

JW always said that it was disgraceful the way the game excluded former Socceroos from positions of coaching and administration.

A lot of people on this forum are extremely critical of the FFA, but not this little black duck.

What Lowy and co have done to transform this game in such a small amount of time is extraordinary and astounding and we should all the gratefull.

Just remember back to the days of the ASF, SA etc and then tell me if the FFA are doing a good job or not.
 

MattSimon

Well-Known Member
One big beef I have with this thing....

...they didn't invite Robbie Slater. He was a socceroo stalwart and today is a genuis wordsmith behind the commentator's mic. Also the same can be said of Andy Harper. They need a larger representation of people who are widely regarded as the "best blokes" in Australian footballing circles.
 

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