bulldogmariner
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My Lecturer last year. Nice lady and very switched on. If she gets a run education minister would be interesting.
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Labor on CC at next election
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FFC Mariner
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Atomic said:
Dont think the damage she caused was done to Labor, I reckon it was confined to her alone.
With her out of the picture, I would imagine there are voters who will come back
midfielder
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Will be interesting to see if they can hold the seat ... my reading of the tea leaves is if the Libs put up a decent person they will win.. me thinks a small swing back to Libs not enough to put them in power but enough to loose a few close seats..
scottmac said:
I think she was my English teacher too, has she changed her surname?. *IF* it is her, I remember her being a egotistical feminazi (I dont get me wrong, I think you dames are swell) who thought it was appropriate to call her teenager male students "a bunch of pigs" because a large number of us voiced our appreciation from some supermodel.
Arabmariner
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It might win them the seat but it won't help much.
Kevin One Term's gone.
Kevin One Term's gone.
Arabmariner
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Hopefully that's how KOT is thinking aswell.....kevrenor said:
Besides no matter how you look at it both sides start with no votes don't they.........
FFC Mariner
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Labor have 83 to Lib/Nats 65 and 2 independents.
To form the next Govt, Lib/Nats would need to win a minimum of 76 seats
Net gain of 11
just cant see it really
To form the next Govt, Lib/Nats would need to win a minimum of 76 seats
Net gain of 11
just cant see it really
dibo
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Current parliament has:
ALP: 83
LNP: 64
Ind: 3
On notional figures (redistributions have shifted boundaries, and therefore voters, from seat to seat) this changes to:
ALP: 88
LNP: 59
Ind: 3
A 2.4% uniform swing, delivering a 2PP of ALP 50.4% / 49.6% LNP and handing 17 seats to the Coalition is what's required.
Labor's shedding some skin at the moment, but that's compared to the peak of Rudd's popularity. Pollytics (a politics site very heavy on stats and analysis, i.e. a site I like because it's lighter on bullshit and heavier on hard numbers) has a tracker on what polling figures would imply at elections - on present polling data they'd have Labor tracking at least level with the last election.
Had they stayed at their ridiculous stratospheric heights the Coalition would have been looking at getting their arses well kicked to the tune of well more than 100 seats to about 40-odd.
That's true enough, but it's also true that pollsters make their money by offering reasonably good estimates of the mood of the electorate. Short of certain instances of utter bizarreness (Morgan's 2004 federal polling comes to mind) the pollsters are generally pretty well on the money, especially if we drop the bar to just picking who's in the lead.
ALP: 83
LNP: 64
Ind: 3
On notional figures (redistributions have shifted boundaries, and therefore voters, from seat to seat) this changes to:
ALP: 88
LNP: 59
Ind: 3
A 2.4% uniform swing, delivering a 2PP of ALP 50.4% / 49.6% LNP and handing 17 seats to the Coalition is what's required.
Labor's shedding some skin at the moment, but that's compared to the peak of Rudd's popularity. Pollytics (a politics site very heavy on stats and analysis, i.e. a site I like because it's lighter on bullshit and heavier on hard numbers) has a tracker on what polling figures would imply at elections - on present polling data they'd have Labor tracking at least level with the last election.
Had they stayed at their ridiculous stratospheric heights the Coalition would have been looking at getting their arses well kicked to the tune of well more than 100 seats to about 40-odd.
Arabmariner said:Hopefully that's how KOT is thinking aswell.....kevrenor said:
Besides no matter how you look at it both sides start with no votes don't they.........
That's true enough, but it's also true that pollsters make their money by offering reasonably good estimates of the mood of the electorate. Short of certain instances of utter bizarreness (Morgan's 2004 federal polling comes to mind) the pollsters are generally pretty well on the money, especially if we drop the bar to just picking who's in the lead.
dibo
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Possums Pollytics strikes again with a post titled Perspective
In 2008, Australia had 161 boat people arrive.
In 2008, Australia had 4750 applications for asylum submitted.
In 2008, France, the UK and Italy combined had 96,870 applications for asylum submitted.
In 2008, 51 industrialised countries participating in the UNHCR statistics program had 382,670 applications for asylum submitted.
In 2008, there were approximately 827,000 asylum applications submitted across the globe
In 2008, there were approximately 15.2 million forcibly displaced refugees around the world
Yesterday we had SBY address our Parliament the leader of a country of 230 million people, heading a democratic government that struggles with serious economic and social development issues everyday. He was here to talk about development cooperation, security and intelligence sharing and international economic partnership in the forums of global power to boost living standards and enhance the social and economic ties between our two nations.
What did we bang on about?
Boat people.
FFC Mariner
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No one will ever care about reality/facts in an emotional racism debate.
Boat people is such a "winner" for the right of politics because it allows them to indulge in overt racism disguised as "queue jumping/threat of terror" etc etc.
Taking a leaf out of Sir Humphrey's guide to skewing opinion polls, the questions may go something like:
Do you believe that being an Australian is a great honour?
Do you believe in a fair go for all?
Do you think queue jumping is against the things Australians think of as a fair go?
Might you be prepared to stop boat people coming here over the heads of more deserving people?
Thats tongue in cheek but its how the game will be played.
Krudd is on an absolute hiding to nothing on this one.
Boat people is such a "winner" for the right of politics because it allows them to indulge in overt racism disguised as "queue jumping/threat of terror" etc etc.
Taking a leaf out of Sir Humphrey's guide to skewing opinion polls, the questions may go something like:
Do you believe that being an Australian is a great honour?
Do you believe in a fair go for all?
Do you think queue jumping is against the things Australians think of as a fair go?
Might you be prepared to stop boat people coming here over the heads of more deserving people?
Thats tongue in cheek but its how the game will be played.
Krudd is on an absolute hiding to nothing on this one.
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