Attendances 2012+

[midfielder]

It's a one-off exhibition vs one AFL match out of nine this weekend, out of 22 weekends and a cricket game which only the die-hards would still be watching as we get f**ked up the jacksie by the poms.

If this were what football rated - any time, any game - we'd have something to get excited about. But it's a special vs a regular game and a bus crash, so don't get too excited.

EEERRRRrrrrrrr simply stating the facts as they are with the only comment it out-rated other sport on FTA that night... actually killed the other sport and it was a one off I accept...

Football position today and in days gone-by I understand was often self-inflicted by ... miss-management, corruption, to list but a few... lying to and then back stabbing Kerry Packer and Rupert Murdock back in the late 70’s was beyond dumb [ a book should be written on how dumb this was]..

However also journalist from other codes and vested media interest have had an affect where football is today .... Football has been IMO on a continual upward trajectory for some time, not without pain, setbacks and some tragedies on the journey ... however of all sports in Australia and off a low base the potential for growth is better than any other code...

That football was on Channel 7 a founding member of the “axis of evil” [Ch7, 3AW, Herald Sun] from 6:30 to 10:00 and it was the top sport rating show simply would not have happen 20, 15, 10 even 5 years ago... Remember the Ch 7 email ... it is a major change and everyone will be talking about the ratings thus it can be sold again next year to both NSW government [Destination NSW commenced talks with the FFA 10 days ago, the first steps to securing another major football scalp for Sydney. http://www.news.com.au/sport/footba...s-of-man-u-visit/story-fndkzvnd-1226682462487]] who want it again and the FTA stations... This year FFA paid each club one million each from this match ... so it's very important it won the ratings for next year if for nothing else...


Rating like last night have football being viewed seriously, nay very seriously.... memos have been sent after the SBS Socceroos rating and this match will cause more ... The Sydney based management of media companies is asking the Melbourne based sports departments ...””” We did not bid for Football broadcast rights why !!!!!”””


So not over excited, that only happens if I see spot a spelling error on a post ... no just posting the ratings and that it was the top rating sports on FTA that night and it was a trail pre-season match ...

 

[midfielder]

Final Figure on the Man U match ... 998K

 

[FFC Mariner]

Final Figure on the Man U match ... 998K

Anyone know what the Socceroos ratings were?

That needs to be added to get the full football audience.

Interesting to see Ch9 report on Liverpools arrival as our "English" soccer mania, neatly trying to distance these events fom the domestic game.

 

[midfielder]

Ratings

FTA - SBS
11 October 2013 Sydney FC v Newcastle Jets SBS 243,000

Pay - Fox
11 October 2012 Sydney FC V Newcastle Fox 115,000
12 October 2013 Central Coast Mariners v Western Sydney Wanderers 77,000
12 October 2013 Melbourne Victory v Melbourne Heart 124,000
13 October 2013 Wellington Phoenix v Brisbane Roar 60,000
13 October 2013 Adelaide United v Perth Glory 88,000

Total Fox 464, 000
Total SBS 243, 000

Round Total = 707,000

Round Average = 141,500

Crowds

Melbourne Victory ... 45, 202

Sydney FC ..............20, 103

Central Coast Mariners .. 17, 134

Adelaide United ..... 10, 320

Wellington Phoenix ..... 8, 239

Total: ............. 100,998

 

[eenfish]

Anyone know what the Socceroos ratings were?

That needs to be added to get the full football audience.

Interesting to see Ch9 report on Liverpools arrival as our "English" soccer mania, neatly trying to distance these events fom the domestic game.

1.5 million watched the last qualifier.

And I still see a lot of media distancing from the local game even in discussing the Socceroos. Get some expert come in to talk about Guus Hiddink's chance of coming in on the morning shows, he name drops local coaches, regular presenters are mystified and try to avoid talking about the local game at all. How can someone try to be an expert on the Socceroos without knowing whats going on with the A-League. Whatever, mate.

 

[Big Al]

I have actually noticed a huge upswing in media.

Daily Tele In Syd ran the back 3 pages during the week & have had football everyday since the grand final of Rugby League. There website has a good football section as well.

MMM has bandwagoned the Wanderers & they are all rugby league.

 

[dibo]

We've seen this before of course; in Sydney we've had Spirit and then Sydney FC building up massively and collapsing just as spectacularly.

It's great, it's exciting, but it needs to be locked in. The comp was a shambles in 1998/99 when Spirit were booming, and the rest of the league wasn't anywhere near Spirit's standards off-field.

In 2005/06, Sydney were bleeding red ink and the football across the league still wasn't much chop. The fundamentals weren't there, the house was still built on sand.

Now we've got a base to work on. Wanderers have deeper support than Sydney had in the early years and far deeper than Spirit. On-field success is crucial, but there's a lot of potential there. What helps is that the football across the board is stronger. The *dreadful* scum side that lost so abjectly on Friday night would have annihilated our 2008 league winning side. It would have been ugly. The standard has gone up fast - just faster for some than others.

The general raising of standards and the increased interest that has followed is helping Sydney grow too - Sydney's memberships are up to 10k this year, so across the city there are 25k A-League club members *before* you count the Mariners fans who are Sydney residents (like myself and many others).

We're looking good now, we're actually looking different now, and we're looking strong now.

 

[midfielder]

18 October 2013 Adelaide United v Melbourne Victory Metro = 219,000 + Fox 97,000 = 316,000

19 October 2013 Melbourne Heart v Central Coast Mariners AAMI Park, Melbourne 90,000

19 October 2013 Brisbane Roar v Sydney FC Suncorp Stadium, Brisbane 106,000

20 October 2013 Newcastle Jets v Perth Glory Hunter Stadium, Newcastle 94, 000

20 October 2013 Western Sydney Wanderers v Wellington Phoenix Pirtek Stadium, Parra 51, 000


Total

FTA … 219,000

Fox …..438,000


Total … 757, 000


Crowds


18 October 2013 Adelaide United v Melbourne Victory Coopers Stadium, Adelaide 16,504
19 October 2013 Melbourne Heart v Central Coast Mariners AAMI Park, Melbourne 8,743
19 October 2013 Brisbane Roar v Sydney FC Suncorp Stadium, Brisbane 21,841
20 October 2013 Newcastle Jets v Perth Glory Hunter Stadium, Newcastle 12,383
20 October 2013 Western Sydney Wanderers v Wellington Phoenix Pirtek Stadium, Parra 16,294


Total - 75,766

 

[midfielder]

Just sharing …

Week 1 … 243, 000 FTA Fox 115, 000 … 358, 000
Week 2 …. 218, 000 FTA Fox 97, 000…. 315, 000
Round 1 match on sbs. “In total, 495,000 viewers switched on to SBS’s coverage of the match based on five minute consecutive reach viewing.” Rd 2 figures not out yet …

Wallabies V NZ [live Sat night] on Ten … 239, 000 Ten Fox 177, 000 … 426, 000

When comparing the viewers in the various 5 cities we find:

> HAL on SBS2 has higher ratings in SYD than AFL on Ch7
> HAL on SBS2 has higher ratings in MEL, ADL & PER than NRL on Ch9
> HAL on SBS2 both Friday Night LIVE ratings above 70k in SYD; AFL on Ch7 had 0% Friday Night ratings above 70k in Syd…

Hal Matches on Fox this year have averaged 90, 400

 

[midfielder]

Ratings [remember rating on SBS are said to be between 1.4 and 1.75 under rated due to the methods used, which are owned and crontrolled by 7, 9 & 10]

25 October 2013 Melbourne Victory v Brisbane Roar Etihad Stadium, Melbourne 121,000
26 October 2013 Central Coast Mariners v Adelaide United Bluetongue Stadium, Gosford 61,000
26 October 2013 Sydney FC v Western Sydney Wanderers Allianz Stadium, Sydney 112,000
27 October 2013 Wellington Phoenix v Newcastle Jets McLean Park, Napier 52, 000
27 October 2013 Perth Glory v Melbourne Heart nib Stadium, Perth 65, 000

Total Fox 411, 000

Plus SBS 158, 000 plus regional's unknown at this stage

Crowds

25 October 2013 Melbourne Victory v Brisbane Roar Etihad Stadium, Melbourne 21,693
26 October 2013 Central Coast Mariners v Adelaide United Bluetongue Stadium, Gosford 9,109
26 October 2013 Sydney FC v Western Sydney Wanderers Allianz Stadium, Sydney 40,388
27 October 2013 Wellington Phoenix v Newcastle Jets McLean Park, Napier 9,020
27 October 2013 Perth Glory v Melbourne Heart nib Stadium, Perth 13,856



WeeklyTotal - 94,066

Season Total - 270,829(15 games)

Weekly Average - 18,853

Season Average - 18,055(15 games)

 

[midfielder]

Just to compare ... for crowds Hal 8 with Hal 7 figures and Rating for Fox in hal 8..

Crowds

Round 1:
Melbourne vs Heart - 42,032
Wellington vs Sydney - 12,057
Western Sydney vs Central Coast - 10,458
Newcastle vs Adelaide - 14,868
Perth vs Brisbane - 14,085

Round 1 total: 93,500 (Rd.1 2011/12: 79,850 +13,650 +14.6%)
Round 1 average: 18,700 (Rd.1 2011/12: 15,970 +2,730)
Season total: 93,500
Season average: 18,700

Round 2:
Adelaide vs Western Sydney - 8,950
Sydney vs Newcastle - 35,419
Brisbane vs Melbourne - 17,364
Heart vs Wellington - 10,907
Central Coast vs Perth - 9,192

Round 2 total: 81,832 (Rd.2 2011/12: 55,588 +26,244 +32%)
Round 2 average: 16,366 (Rd.2 2011/12: 11,118 +5,248)
Season total: 175,332 (Total to Rd.2 2011/12: 135,438 +39,894 +22.8%)
Season average: 17,533 (Avg. to Rd.2 2011/12: 13,544 +3,989)

Round 3:
Melbourne vs Adelaide - 19,174
Newcastle vs Central Coast - 15,289
Western Sydney vs Sydney - 19,126
Wellington vs Brisbane - 9,182
Perth vs Heart - 7,548

Round 3 total: 70,319 (Rd.3 2011/12: 87,958 -17,639 -20%)
Round 3 average: 14,064 (Rd.3 2011/12: 17,592 -3,528)
Season total: 245,651 (Total to Rd.3 2011/12: 223,396 +22,255 +9%)
Season average: 16,377 (Avg. to Rd.3 2011/12: 14,893 +1,484)


Ratings

Round 1:

Melbourne vs Heart - 129, 000
Wellington vs Sydney - 109, 000
Western Sydney vs Central Coast - 124, 000
Newcastle vs Adelaide - 77, 000
Perth vs Brisbane - 102, 000

Round 2:

Adelaide vs Western Sydney - 90, 000
Sydney vs Newcastle - 156, 000
Brisbane vs Melbourne - 101, 000
Heart vs Wellington - 73, 000
Central Coast vs Perth - 78, 000

Round 3 rating

Melbourne vs Adelaide - 102, 000
Newcastle vs Central Coast - 78, 000
Western Sydney vs Sydney - 102, 000
Wellington vs Brisbane - 58, 000
Perth vs Heart - 67, 000


Accumulative viewers for round - 407,000

Accumulative viewers for the season to date - 1,447,000

Rating Average for Round - 81,400

Rating Average for season to date(15 games) - 96,467

 

[eenfish]

40,000, isn't that a record for a non-finals game?

 

[dibo]

40,000, isn't that a record for a non-finals game?

For NSW it is, but there were some larger crowds at the dome back in 07 or so, including one of over 50,000.

 

[midfielder]

Updating round 3 with SBS regional ratings..


25 October 2013 Melbourne Victory v Brisbane Roar Etihad Stadium, Melbourne SBS 158,000 SBS Regional 48,000 FOX 121,000
26 October 2013 Central Coast Mariners v Adelaide United Bluetongue Stadium, Gosford 61,000
26 October 2013 Sydney FC v Western Sydney Wanderers Allianz Stadium, Sydney 112,000
27 October 2013 Wellington Phoenix v Newcastle Jets McLean Park, Napier 52,000
27 October 2013 Perth Glory v Melbourne Heart nib Stadium, Perth 65,000


Combined Round Total = 617,000

Combined Round Average = 123,400

Combined Season Total = 1,981,000 (15 games)

Combined Season Average = 132,067

Foxsports Round Total = 411,000(5 game)

Foxsports Round Average = 82,200

Foxsports Accumulative = 1,313,000

Foxsports Season Average Ratings =. 87,533(15 games)

SBS Round Ratings = 206,000

SBS Accumulative = 668,000 (3 games)

SBS Average Ratings = 222,667 (3 games)

 

[midfielder]

http://www.ultimatealeague.com/records.php?type=att&season=HW

Top 20 crowds...from ultimate A-League ...

 

[eenfish]

http://www.ultimatealeague.com/records.php?type=att&season=HA

highest game attendances. The Vic derby this year is the second biggest non-finals game after a Big Blue from 06/07. Neat!

 

[midfielder]

Ratings

Have not been able to get SBS regional numbers for Rd 4 ... but not a good sign with falling FTA numbers ... maybe the obvious get Simon Hill with Craig Foster ... David B will not drag folk to his call...

1 November 2013 Western Sydney Wanderers v Adelaide United SBS2 110k (Syd 40k Mel 36k Bri 18k Ade 12k Per 4k) Foxsports 96k
2 November 2013 Perth Glory v Sydney FC 99,000
2 November 2013 Newcastle Jets v Central Coast Mariners 86,000
3 November 2013 Brisbane Roar v Melbourne Heart 69,000
4 November 2013 Melbourne Victory v Wellington Phoenix 69,000


Combined Round Total = 529,000 + SBS Regional’s ? ? ?

Combined Round Average = 105,800

Combined Season Total = 2,414,000 (20 games)

Combined Season Average = 120,700

Foxsports Round Total = 419,000

Foxsports Round Average = 88,800

Foxsports Accumulative = 1,732,000

Foxsports Season Average Ratings =. 87,526(20 games)

SBS Round Ratings = 110,000 + Regionals ? ? ?

SBS Accumulative = 778,000 (4 games) + Rd 4 Regionals

SBS Average Ratings = 194,500 (4 games) + Rd 4 Regionals


Side note ... a poster on 442 broke down the ratings down per night ...

Friday Night 107,250
Saturdays 94,375
Sundays 68,429

If we add Monday night of 69K…. Also the late Saturday match gets a bigger number than the early kick off…

Says to me Friday night matches should be scheduled in Perth and Wellington on alternative weekends to use the time difference to our advantage … i.e. two Friday night matches and only one Sunday match…

Sunday crowds are also down compared to Friday night...



Crowds



Round 4

1 November 2013 Western Sydney Wanderers v Adelaide United Pirtek Stadium, Parramatta 16,279
2 November 2013 Perth Glory v Sydney FC nib Stadium, Perth 10,613
2 November 2013 Newcastle Jets v Central Coast Mariners Hunter Stadium, Newcastle 13,744
3 November 2013 Brisbane Roar v Melbourne Heart Suncorp Stadium, Brisbane 15,011
4 November 2013 Melbourne Victory v Wellington Phoenix Etihad Stadium, Melbourne 23,226

WeeklyTotal - 78,873

Season Total - 349,702(20 games)

Weekly Average - 15,775

Season Average - 17,485(20 games)

Also a good site for crowd averages ...

http://www.worldfootball.net/attendance/aus-a-league-2013-2014/1/

 

[midfielder]

Round 5 ....

Crowds

8 November 2013 Melbourne Heart v Western Sydney Wanderers AAMI Park, Melbourne 8,070
9 November 2013 Wellington Phoenix v Perth Glory AMI Stadium, Christchurch 9,671
9 November 2013 Adelaide United v Newcastle Jets Coopers Stadium, Adelaide 10,244
9 November 2013 Sydney FC v Melbourne Victory Allianz Stadium, Sydney 18,784
10 November 2013 Central Coast Mariners v Brisbane Roar Bluetongue Stadium, Gosford 8,303

Weekly Total - 55,072

Season Total - 404,774(25 games)

Weekly Average - 11,014

Season Average - 16,191(25 games)

Season 8 Average after 5 rounds… 15, 032

Ratings

8 November 2013 Melbourne Heart v Western Sydney Wanderers AAMI Park, Melbourne SBS2 134k Foxsports 83k
9 November 2013 Wellington Phoenix v Perth Glory AMI Stadium, Christchurch 33k
9 November 2013 Adelaide United v Newcastle Jets Coopers Stadium, Adelaide 72k
9 November 2013 Sydney FC v Melbourne Victory Allianz Stadium, Sydney 151k
10 November 2013 Central Coast Mariners v Brisbane Roar Bluetongue Stadium, Gosford 78K

Combined Round Total = 551,000

Combined Round Average = 110,200

Combined Season Total = 2,965 ,000 (25 games)

Combined Season Average = 118, 600

Foxsports Round Total = 417,000

Foxsports Round Average = 83,400

Foxsports Accumulative = 2,149 ,000

Foxsports Season Average Ratings =. 85,960(25 games)

Fox Ratings season five after Rd 5 96, 400

SBS ratings without regionals for rounds 4 & 5


SBS Round Ratings = 134,000

SBS Accumulative = 912,000 (5 games)

SBS Average Ratings = 182,400 (5 games)
SBS Accumulative = 912,000 (5 games)

SBS Average Ratings = 182,400 (5 games)

 

[sydmariner]

Round 5 ....

Crowds

8 November 2013 Melbourne Heart v Western Sydney Wanderers AAMI Park, Melbourne 8,070
9 November 2013 Wellington Phoenix v Perth Glory AMI Stadium, Christchurch 9,671
9 November 2013 Adelaide United v Newcastle Jets Coopers Stadium, Adelaide 10,244
9 November 2013 Sydney FC v Melbourne Victory Allianz Stadium, Sydney 18,784
10 November 2013 Central Coast Mariners v Brisbane Roar Bluetongue Stadium, Gosford 8,303

Weekly Total - 55,072

Season Total - 404,774(25 games)

Weekly Average - 11,014

Season Average - 16,191(25 games)

Season 8 Average after 5 rounds… 15, 032

Ratings

8 November 2013 Melbourne Heart v Western Sydney Wanderers AAMI Park, Melbourne SBS2 134k Foxsports 83k
9 November 2013 Wellington Phoenix v Perth Glory AMI Stadium, Christchurch 33k
9 November 2013 Adelaide United v Newcastle Jets Coopers Stadium, Adelaide 72k
9 November 2013 Sydney FC v Melbourne Victory Allianz Stadium, Sydney 151k
10 November 2013 Central Coast Mariners v Brisbane Roar Bluetongue Stadium, Gosford 78K

Combined Round Total = 551,000

Combined Round Average = 110,200

Combined Season Total = 2,965 ,000 (25 games)

Combined Season Average = 118, 600

Foxsports Round Total = 417,000

Foxsports Round Average = 83,400

Foxsports Accumulative = 2,149 ,000

Foxsports Season Average Ratings =. 85,960(25 games)

Fox Ratings season five after Rd 5 96, 400

SBS ratings without regionals for rounds 4 & 5


SBS Round Ratings = 134,000

SBS Accumulative = 912,000 (5 games)

SBS Average Ratings = 182,400 (5 games)
SBS Accumulative = 912,000 (5 games)

SBS Average Ratings = 182,400 (5 games)

 

[dibo]

Fox ratings are down this year. A little bit of that will be that we're losing ADP's novelty, Sydney are absolute pish and there'll be a small bleed from Friday night Fox to SBS, but there might be a general easing from last year anyway.