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Mariners Squad - 2019-2020

marinermick

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Hey marinermick,
What are the specific major differences in training this season compared to the last few seasons? Seems like Staj is getting more out of the players but what is it he is doing differently exactly when you watch the sessions? Is it the training intensity?

Intensity seems higher than Mulvey and similar to Okon. The sessions are also longer.

The major difference I see is tactically. The sessions and drills appear planned for the weekend game and opponent. You can see how deliberate they are and certainly the homework behind it. This didn’t seem the case with Mulvey.

Staj had lots to say to his players about Perth, how they would play and where their weaknesses were. He asked his players to play in certain way to combat Perth and his drills were set up accordingly.

There were also much more support staff on hand. One guy was filming from a drone which I have seen often at sessions.

P.S. Kim looked so good. His passing completion rate will be in the 90% this season.
 

Kit Walker

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Intensity seems higher than Mulvey and similar to Okon. The sessions are also longer.

The major difference I see is tactically. The sessions and drills appear planned for the weekend game and opponent. You can see how deliberate they are and certainly the homework behind it. This didn’t seem the case with Mulvey.

Staj had lots to say to his players about Perth, how they would play and where their weaknesses were. He asked his players to play in certain way to combat Perth and his drills were set up accordingly.

There were also much more support staff on hand. One guy was filming from a drone which I have seen often at sessions.

P.S. Kim looked so good. His passing completion rate will be in the 90% this season.
Thanks marinermick, that’s awesome insight into the training sessions. It’s early days but it seems like the players are responding well.
I really like Kim, so happy to hear he looks good on the training pitch. Hopefully he can convert that to the games.
 

Insertnamehere

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Intensity seems higher than Mulvey and similar to Okon. The sessions are also longer.

The major difference I see is tactically. The sessions and drills appear planned for the weekend game and opponent. You can see how deliberate they are and certainly the homework behind it. This didn’t seem the case with Mulvey.

Staj had lots to say to his players about Perth, how they would play and where their weaknesses were. He asked his players to play in certain way to combat Perth and his drills were set up accordingly.

There were also much more support staff on hand. One guy was filming from a drone which I have seen often at sessions.

P.S. Kim looked so good. His passing completion rate will be in the 90% this season.
This might have been said before but I've heard the video work that staj does and wants is on par with GA. Obviously having an analyst helps but you still have to have a plan and use the info.
 

Michael

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Staj’s beautiful professionalism is exactly what it should be from an international manager. He would be absolutely loving doing this every day. The players would love working with him.
And it’s honestly already showing, I strongly believe we’ll be top 4/5 with a regular goal scorer.
When I went from training and playing for a super organised and professional coach at a grass roots level for 5 years to some numpty for 1 year, I fell out of love with the sport.
Imagine how the boys felt under Mulvey last year.
 

true believer

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Intensity seems higher than Mulvey and similar to Okon. The sessions are also longer.

The major difference I see is tactically. The sessions and drills appear planned for the weekend game and opponent. You can see how deliberate they are and certainly the homework behind it. This didn’t seem the case with Mulvey.

Staj had lots to say to his players about Perth, how they would play and where their weaknesses were. He asked his players to play in certain way to combat Perth and his drills were set up accordingly.

There were also much more support staff on hand. One guy was filming from a drone which I have seen often at sessions.

P.S. Kim looked so good. His passing completion rate will be in the 90% this season.
Yeah the way they changed their style of play to the drive bys then the scum .
Had me thinking he would play to suit what you need to nulify what their gunna do .
Seems a little better than doing planA better .
Looking forward to perth . But i can"t see us getting a result with only one goal
 

FFC Mariner

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With an AL quality striker we have 2 wins already. Charlesworths unwillingness to invest is the most short sighted stupidity possible.
Dukey costs (say) $750k and we are top 4.
Its not hard but until our owner goes, life will be hard for us.
 

Michael

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I think that might be optimistic with our budget constraints and a bit of dead wood but I’d take 5-7 and far from the spoon conversation in a heartbeat.

That’s a fair call too.
But the way I’ve been seeing the other clubs in this early stage and then looking at the strength of our midfield and steeliness of our backline with some consistency and touchwood no major injuries to key players and some striker goals there’s plenty of wins for the taking for us. Because Milan will keep chipping in, I feel like DDS and Tommy will start scoring soon too.

The only surprise and it’s not even a big one given their visa signings is WSW. Sydney will be up there, Perth too ofcourse, victory are weaker imo. City only really have Macca and he’s out now. Brisbane don’t have enough imo. Wellington I thought would be better. Western United have way too many players in the mid 30s. And the jets are weaker too. Adelaide are in a similar spot to us.
 

turbo

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Its not hard but until our owner goes, life will be hard for us.
If I’m MC and I’ve bankrolled the period he covered I’d want some proof that my money is going to finally be well spent before I look at tipping more in. We’ll never have the funds the big clubs do but if the club can show they’re capable of giving some bang for his money rather than expecting more funds to cover for poor choices then maybe there’s a case for more funds/attracting investment.
 

pjennings

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With an AL quality striker we have 2 wins already. Charlesworths unwillingness to invest is the most short sighted stupidity possible.
Dukey costs (say) $750k and we are top 4.
Its not hard but until our owner goes, life will be hard for us.

Western Sydney boy returning home means we would have had to pay overs to get him.
 

pjennings

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Can someone who has watched the NYL/NPL2 tell me the best positions for Manley Barnett, Quentin Cheng, Nick Faust, Joey Jevtic, Kyle Johnson, Daniel Hall, Michael Katsoulis, Charles M'Mombwa, Emmanuel Peters & Alec Vinci
 

Ozhammer

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Western Sydney boy returning home means we would have had to pay overs to get him.
More likely he was aware how poor a coach MM was and didn’t want his brand being tainted by that. If we had remained a team that were still consistently challenging for honours, we might have stood a chance.
 

Forum Phoenix

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If Jair flew in from Brazil, thats a 20+ hour flight. That would affect you physically in the first few sessions. If he hasn't been playing, it will take him 3-4 weeks to catch up to the fitness level of the squad who have had a long hard pre-season. My husband doesn't like Jair but I think he has potential if you look closer at his goal scoring record over the years.

I think our squad are the fittest I’ve seen them in a long time. So it depends on Jair’s current level of fitness, sounds like from what Mick said it’s only average. Could take a fair while to get on par with the other players. And depends on Staj’s approach, how promising he looks, and how bad our need is...

Do you start smashing him with a goal to introduce him at full fitness in 6 weeks. Or are you trying to rush him in and start getting 20-30 minutes into him off the bench early as possible.
 
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Michael

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Can someone who has watched the NYL/NPL2 tell me the best positions for Manley Barnett, Quentin Cheng, Nick Faust, Joey Jevtic, Kyle Johnson, Daniel Hall, Michael Katsoulis, Charles M'Mombwa, Emmanuel Peters & Alec Vinci

Johnson is mostly a CM but is pretty versatile I’ve seen him play out wide and in the backline.
Charles is a winger or 10
Peters is a winger or striker
Vinci is a defender
Katsoulis is an attacker
My memory escapes me for the others

Peters hasn’t been with us for awhile and I have no idea if Charles is either. I think he had a bad injury. Fantastic player though.
 

Wombat

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I think our squad are the fittest I’ve seen them in a long time. So it depends on Jair’s current level of fitness, sounds like from what Mick said it’s only average. Could take a fair while to get on par with the other players. And depends on Staj’s approach, how promising he looks, and how bad our need is...

Do you start smashing him with a goal to introduce him at full fitness in 6 weeks. Or are you trying to rush him in and start getting 20-30 minutes into him off the bench early as possible.

JAIR is probably at 75%. He is in decent shape but is not shredded like many in the squad (Nizzy for example looks fighting fit).
Jair did all the drills well and was not sweating heavily which is a good sign.
We have a squad of 17 going interstate for the next 2 games which poses an interesting question for Staj. Who do you take?

Obviously Jair wont go but who else wont travel???
 

nebakke

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Only two games in and I don't want to get sound all confident-like but - we haven't conceded a goal from open play so far, that's a nice start... Not so nice that we still seem to struggle with corners a bit but still. If they stop waving their hands in the air in defence, we might actually start winning.
Granted, we haven't been tested against some of the strongest attacking weapons in the league yet, we'll see I guess.
 

possum x

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Johnson is mostly a CM but is pretty versatile I’ve seen him play out wide and in the backline.
Charles is a winger or 10
Peters is a winger or striker
Vinci is a defender
Katsoulis is an attacker
My memory escapes me for the others

Peters hasn’t been with us for awhile and I have no idea if Charles is either. I think he had a bad injury. Fantastic player though.
They're all gone except Johnson, Katsoulis, Jevtic and Hall. Charles went to Scotland, I think Inverness but had trouble with visa. Last my young bloke heard from him he was trying England and some Euro clubs
 

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