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Youth League Called Off this afternoon (6/2)

Omni

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Hi all,

I know how you all love the NYL - the match tonight against Newcastle has been postponed.
 

masmariner

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Whats the go with Bluetongue cant they have a slight slope on the pitch for runoff and have some drainage put in thats works it is a disgrace.
If we had a big downpour in a game the game would have to be abandoned - which should not happen you cant play with sheets of water across the field.
 

kevrenor

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masmariner said:
Whats the go with Bluetongue cant they have a slight slope on the pitch for runoff and have some drainage put in thats works it is a disgrace.
If we had a big downpour in a game the game would have to be abandoned - which should not happen you cant play with sheets of water across the field.

Do you reckon it would fix this?

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FFC Mariner

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Isnt that the same spot that caused the SFC game to be called off?

Top work Gos Council - try fixing it next time
 

Harsulas_SFC

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kevrenor said:
masmariner said:
Whats the go with Bluetongue cant they have a slight slope on the pitch for runoff and have some drainage put in thats works it is a disgrace.
If we had a big downpour in a game the game would have to be abandoned - which should not happen you cant play with sheets of water across the field.

Do you reckon it would fix this?

00029107-fullsize.jpg

Suncorp looked a lot worse than that just 40 minutes before a game and it managed to go ahead.  While we don't actually believe it, the Parra stadium website claims it can drain 100m an hour.... which according to BOM is roughly 2.5 times what BT got.  Even if its half that or less it would be fine..... clearly someone has badly badly stuffed up the drainage up there.
 

masmariner

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kevrenor said:
masmariner said:
Whats the go with Bluetongue cant they have a slight slope on the pitch for runoff and have some drainage put in thats works it is a disgrace.
If we had a big downpour in a game the game would have to be abandoned - which should not happen you cant play with sheets of water across the field.

Do you reckon it would fix this?

00029107-fullsize.jpg

Proper design would the water should run off the field not sit their like that we are waiting for evaporation to fix the issue not run off, like I said a big downpour in a game and the game would need to be called off.
IMHO that would be worse than the game not starting at all.
 

dru

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Just out of curiosity masmariner and Harsulas what background in drainage do you guys have?
 

masmariner

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dru said:
Just out of curiosity masmariner and Harsulas what background in drainage do you guys have?

Qualified engineer and surveyor started work in a council nearly 30 years ago, only with council a little while then with state gov and then federal government worked on projects all over NSW and up into QLD.
 

Ted

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masmariner said:
dru said:
Just out of curiosity masmariner and Harsulas what background in drainage do you guys have?

Qualified engineer and surveyor started work in a council nearly 30 years ago, only with council a little while then with state gov and then federal government worked on projects all over NSW and up into QLD.


well that answers that then lol
 

dru

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Ted said:
masmariner said:
dru said:
Just out of curiosity masmariner and Harsulas what background in drainage do you guys have?

Qualified engineer and surveyor started work in a council nearly 30 years ago, only with council a little while then with state gov and then federal government worked on projects all over NSW and up into QLD.


well that answers that then lol

Yeah it does. It seems pretty obvious that rain in the lead up means that the saturation point of the soil has been reached so surface ponding will be an issue with any subsequent rain event. So in your opinion what sort of cross fall would the ground need to be able to accomadate draining a rainfall event such as the one before the game, keeping in mind that we don't want balls to be rolling off the pitch? and I would assume that you would plan to either drain it away to the corners or into a sloped trench along both sides of the ground since you are talking about surface drainage not sub soil drainage in this case.

I wonder if the stadium has retention tanks on site so surface water can be drained and reused for ground watering.
 

elevated position

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FFC Mariner said:
Isnt that the same spot that caused the SFC game to be called off?

Top work Gos Council - try fixing it next time
No it was the other side of the pitch in front of the away supporters
masmariner said:
dru said:
Just out of curiosity masmariner and Harsulas what background in drainage do you guys have?

Qualified engineer and surveyor started work in a council nearly 30 years ago, only with council a little while then with state gov and then federal government worked on projects all over NSW and up into QLD.
And you actually tell people this
 

Paolo

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Harsulas_SFC said:
kevrenor said:
masmariner said:
Whats the go with Bluetongue cant they have a slight slope on the pitch for runoff and have some drainage put in thats works it is a disgrace.
If we had a big downpour in a game the game would have to be abandoned - which should not happen you cant play with sheets of water across the field.

Do you reckon it would fix this?

00029107-fullsize.jpg

Suncorp looked a lot worse than that just 40 minutes before a game and it managed to go ahead. 
If your referring to the Australia V Qatar match it definately looked much worse. If i recall correctly they delayed the game by about 40mins and let it drain and rolled it whilst everyone looked for shelter in the stadium bar which wasnt all that bad.
 

Jaza_SFC

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I remember in the finals v.s. QLD a few years ago it belted down (electrical storm) for 40mins pre-game. Suncorp was utterly drenched. A tad worse than the above pic.

There was a 45min delay and teh game was played on the night. Proper drainage there.
 

kevrenor

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Jaza_SFC said:
I remember in the finals v.s. QLD a few years ago it belted down (electrical storm) for 40mins pre-game. Suncorp was utterly drenched. A tad worse than the above pic.

There was a 45min delay and teh game was played on the night. Proper drainage there.

Parra Stadium is well drained, however I was just about to head off to Parramatta for the interesting (for Mariners) SFC vs PGFC NYL game, but it has been moved to the synthetic pitch at Seymour Shaw at 3:30pm due to the state of the pitch at Parramatta Stadium.  I'll head off to Parra for 5pm if the main game is still on.
 

curious

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masmariner said:
dru said:
Just out of curiosity masmariner and Harsulas what background in drainage do you guys have?

Qualified engineer and surveyor started work in a council nearly 30 years ago, only with council a little while then with state gov and then federal government worked on projects all over NSW and up into QLD.
The water pooling in BT is from a reliance on a sub soil drainage system not able to cope because it's badly in need of major maintenance or very expensive upgrade. Possibly caused by too may occasions of many hundreds of tons of rubbish non draining clay based soils being trucked in for bike shows ect. It could even be sub surface drainage damage. I don't know. But it's not because it doesn't have enough pitch, as that was the intention of the design. Pitch is now resisted because of the modern wish for a ball playing surface with little to zero bias inside the playing boundaries with a reliance on modern subsoil drainage technology and high volume extraction.

Before you ask, the on the ground end of civil engineering, specialising in the construction of the above. Now in the past.
 

dru

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I wonder if there is a limit on the crossfall (pitch as curious stated it) for International fixtures.

So yeah we need the whole thing dug up, sub soil drainage to be replaced/repaired new soil and turf laid. Lets expand the COE stadium and get it right  ;D

apparently this is what Parramatta and suncorp use.

And for the record Surveyor although most of my drainage knowledge comes from what I studied at uni.
 

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