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adz

Moderator
Staff member
Hi all, coming into the new year we are looking at expanding our little community here. Established in 2004, we are the longest running CCM Fan Community around. We've seen groups pop up over the years, some sticking around, some fading away.

In recent weeks, we have started using our facebook page more, and have plans of doing even more in 2015 with fan related updates and information, maybe a contest here and there.

Getting the word out on facebook is a great way to get more attention to the site. More fans, more posts, more discussion!

So please, help us expand our community; LIKE and SHARE our facebook page.

Thank you.
 

sydmariner

Well-Known Member
Hi all, coming into the new year we are looking at expanding our little community here. Established in 2004, we are the longest running CCM Fan Community around. We've seen groups pop up over the years, some sticking around, some fading away.

In recent weeks, we have started using our facebook page more, and have plans of doing even more in 2015 with fan related updates and information, maybe a contest here and there.

Getting the word out on facebook is a great way to get more attention to the site. More fans, more posts, more discussion!

So please, help us expand our community; LIKE and SHARE our facebook page.

Thank you.
:shoutclap::shoutclap::shoutclap:
 
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nearlyyellow

Well-Known Member
I'd like to help ... but this old dinosaur doesn't Facebook, at least, not publicly, it's a private presence, all locked down to the very tight family member group. Sorry. :cool: But I can see that this is a very good initiative and I hope that it does achieve the desired outcome. ( I have an anonymous Facebook alias but there's absolutely no point in liking from that and I can't share, I'm anon. remember? Nobody there but me! :p )
 

adz

Moderator
Staff member
I'd like to help ... but this old dinosaur doesn't Facebook, at least, not publicly, it's a private presence, all locked down to the very tight family member group. Sorry. :cool: But I can see that this is a very good initiative and I hope that it does achieve the desired outcome. ( I have an anonymous Facebook alias but there's absolutely no point in liking from that and I can't share, I'm anon. remember? Nobody there but me! :p )
No worries! Plenty of people don't have Facebook, and plenty of people don't read the forum.
Hoping that by spreading the word a bit via facebook, that will raise awareness a bit of the forum and the fan community in general.
 

VicMariner

Well-Known Member
This forum has 1799 members but how many are regular posters?
Is the number of regular posters climbing or remaining steady?
 

adz

Moderator
Staff member
Nobody has ever asked for stats before... when I've posted them (and other things regarding site design/development) in the past I've actually been told "we don't give a shit, as long as it works!!"... ha!

So anyway, and this may be a bit more than you wanted, but here goes...

This is raw data pulled from our DB, starting with number of people posting per month;

Code:
Year - Month - People Posting
2015    1    61
2014    12    80
2014    11    78
2014    10    72
2014    9    59
2014    8    64
2014    7    59
2014    6    61
2014    5    68
2014    4    75
2014    3    69
2014    2    81
2014    1    79
2013    12    81
2013    11    84
2013    10    96
2013    9    73
2013    8    72
2013    7    69
2013    6    61
2013    5    88
2013    4    117
2013    3    91
2013    2    81
2013    1    77
2012    12    66
2012    11    67
2012    10    79
2012    9    58
2012    8    40
2012    7    52
2012    6    41
2012    5    72
2012    4    91
2012    3    93
2012    2    86
2012    1    97
2011    12    92
2011    11    76
2011    10    99
2011    9    68
2011    8    59
2011    7    70
2011    6    60
2011    5    71
2011    4    66
2011    3    139
2011    2    107
2011    1    120
2010    12    100
2010    11    113
2010    10    105
2010    9    119
2010    8    141
2010    7    135
2010    6    121
2010    5    126
2010    4    120
2010    3    148
2010    2    172
2010    1    172
2009    12    180
2009    11    171
2009    10    183
2009    9    185
2009    8    211
2009    7    166
2009    6    172
2009    5    194
2009    4    198
2009    3    196
2009    2    217
2009    1    222
2008    12    219
2008    11    209
2008    10    221
2008    9    178
2008    8    200
2008    7    205
2008    6    188
2008    5    173
2008    4    169
2008    3    219
2008    2    329
2008    1    279
2007    12    157
2007    11    39
2007    10    37

Number of posts per month

Code:
Year - Month - Posts
2015    1    734
2014    12    1,648
2014    11    1,479
2014    10    1,077
2014    9    774
2014    8    801
2014    7    969
2014    6    951
2014    5    1,103
2014    4    1,397
2014    3    1,280
2014    2    1,706
2014    1    1,703
2013    12    1,482
2013    11    1,391
2013    10    1,468
2013    9    1,272
2013    8    1,116
2013    7    1,025
2013    6    1,020
2013    5    1,741
2013    4    2,022
2013    3    1,194
2013    2    1,134
2013    1    1,365
2012    12    659
2012    11    538
2012    10    632
2012    9    408
2012    8    270
2012    7    487
2012    6    271
2012    5    777
2012    4    1,324
2012    3    1,578
2012    2    1,127
2012    1    1,175
2011    12    959
2011    11    730
2011    10    993
2011    9    533
2011    8    614
2011    7    862
2011    6    770
2011    5    663
2011    4    420
2011    3    1,322
2011    2    1,154
2011    1    1,650
2010    12    1,094
2010    11    1,266
2010    10    1,086
2010    9    1,120
2010    8    1,408
2010    7    1,704
2010    6    1,458
2010    5    2,186
2010    4    1,656
2010    3    2,719
2010    2    4,146
2010    1    3,598
2009    12    3,261
2009    11    3,746
2009    10    4,525
2009    9    4,404
2009    8    5,937
2009    7    3,943
2009    6    3,834
2009    5    4,022
2009    4    4,304
2009    3    5,059
2009    2    5,720
2009    1    6,670
2008    12    6,370
2008    11    5,851
2008    10    5,271
2008    9    4,768
2008    8    5,072
2008    7    5,475
2008    6    5,500
2008    5    3,857
2008    4    4,627
2008    3    6,688
2008    2    8,669
2008    1    8,100
2007    12    3,018
2007    11    195
2007    10    258

Thread views per month
Code:
Year - Month - Thread Views
2015    1    6,326
2014    12    25,914
2014    11    46,414
2014    10    21,119
2014    9    9,239
2014    8    6,906
2014    7    23,236
2014    6    28,485
2014    5    25,763
2014    4    24,730
2014    3    30,082
2014    2    111,403
2014    1    37,305
2013    12    64,748
2013    11    41,253
2013    10    61,668
2013    9    29,862
2013    8    36,283
2013    7    17,967
2013    6    55,860
2013    5    67,166
2013    4    86,427
2013    3    52,170
2013    2    52,474
2013    1    181,456
2012    12    186,372
2012    11    32,768
2012    10    43,315
2012    9    17,211
2012    8    21,342
2012    7    18,998
2012    6    25,110
2012    5    52,142
2012    4    37,654
2012    3    109,817
2012    2    52,084
2012    1    132,180
2011    12    84,406
2011    11    76,100
2011    10    43,598
2011    9    42,375
2011    8    42,723
2011    7    38,949
2011    6    45,092
2011    5    45,563
2011    4    43,444
2011    3    144,059
2011    2    101,170
2011    1    117,210
2010    12    64,260
2010    11    93,799
2010    10    153,389
2010    9    107,527
2010    8    122,676
2010    7    82,618
2010    6    89,208
2010    5    72,866
2010    4    63,792
2010    3    118,344
2010    2    251,452
2010    1    164,795
2009    12    166,663
2009    11    140,571
2009    10    302,970
2009    9    195,559
2009    8    345,977
2009    7    153,483
2009    6    169,297
2009    5    202,037
2009    4    232,358
2009    3    243,043
2009    2    253,591
2009    1    358,556
2008    12    583,152
2008    11    290,489
2008    10    375,952
2008    9    369,645
2008    8    554,062
2008    7    342,727
2008    6    336,725
2008    5    443,934
2008    4    379,072
2008    3    696,777
2008    2    746,972
2008    1    1,066,855
2007    12    567,177
2007    11    94,414
2007    10    152,127


Some Google Analytics for the same period (main graph shows Users per month)
The Users metric shows how many users viewed or interacted with your content within a specific date range.
ccmfans_analytics.jpg



So that makes for some sad reading, really. :(

So basically there was a big drop off at the end of the 2010-11 season, and it never recovered. Not sure exactly how to explain it; the Yellow Army started their Facebook page around the middle of 2010 so can't really say that was too much of a factor (??), but interestingly enough, here was our home page in the 2010-11 season:

ccmfans_dec_2010.jpg

And then the whole of 2011-12 went through looking like this

ccmfans_feb_2012.jpg


So there you go. Probably a little too much information :D
Any questions/comments, fire away.
 

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VicMariner

Well-Known Member
Fantasic reply! Thanks very much.

2009 - 2011 looks like the time with the most users and then tailed off a bit and remained steady since.
I was hoping to see a gradual increase. Oh well.

What does "bounce rate" mean?
On the blue/green pie chart what does "visitors" mean? Members, Lurkers or all?

ETA
Thanks to google:
Bounce rate = represents the percentage of visitors who enter the site and "bounce" (leave the site) rather than continue viewing other pages.
 
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adz

Moderator
Staff member
I think it's a pretty common problem across the internets, people lost interest with forums.

Here's a post (on another forum, funnily enough) in November that has a few links in it and they say "They've been declining since 2010. For pretty much the entire current decade." - http://forums.soompi.com/en/discussion/2025129/the-decline-of-internet-forums

Another one discussing whether forums are dead (again on another forum) ... https://forums.digitalpoint.com/threads/are-forums-dead.2715554/





Anyhoo... there's quite a few discussions around on the topic of forums dying/dead or not.
I never wanted the site to be "just a forum", but a few factors have lead to it being exactly that today.

Bounce Rate is the percentage of single-page sessions (i.e. sessions in which the person left your site from the entrance page without interacting with the page).
Here is an article on bounce rate, funnily enough we are in the "unlikely" category according to this...
http://www.gorocketfuel.com/the-rocket-blog/whats-the-average-bounce-rate-in-google-analytics/



And as far as "visitors", a while ago Google changed up their terminology, and what they used to call visitors they now call "users" - so basically anyone on the site, logged in or not. I guess they didn't update the pie graph!


There's another stat that we cannot quantify and that is the quality of posts. We may have had more people and more posts but I think a lot of the posts were arguments, stupid shit, and basically crap that nobody wanted to read anyway... but still did I guess ;)

The quality is much better now, we have some good discussions going and better quality reviews, just less of it. Of course that's just my opinion, others may disagree.
 

VicMariner

Well-Known Member
Thanks once again for your comprehensive reply.

If forums are in decline in general then it is good this one seems to be steady.
I'm sure over the years as the league grows this site will too.

The bounce rate does seem to be good for this site.
How to get unregistered people to join and non posting members to post more regularly is the big question I guess.

Quality wise I think this forum is great. Wide range of opinions, no flaming and almost no arguments.
Hats off to the people who put their time and effort into running it.
 

nearlyyellow

Well-Known Member
imho it's not possible to get the same interaction and participation if you are a twat or if you facepage. Part of the enjoyment of this site is the to-ing and fro-ing between forum members. Topics can be defined, or not. Posts can be on topic or not. Humour, sarcasm can be used or not, and appreciated or not. This place and places like it are *flexible*. Why, you can even be semantic if you wish. ;) Nah, this forum and fora (forums) like it are great places to interact with others of a like mind. After all we can't all get in a room together to have a chat so this is the place for us.
I enjoy coming here. My thanks go to the hard workers who keep the site up, current and moderated. Thanks guys. :cheers:
 

sydmariner

Well-Known Member
Nobody has ever asked for stats before... when I've posted them (and other things regarding site design/development) in the past I've actually been told "we don't give a shit, as long as it works!!"... ha!

So anyway, and this may be a bit more than you wanted, but here goes...

This is raw data pulled from our DB, starting with number of people posting per month;

Code:
Year - Month - People Posting
2015    1    61
2014    12    80
2014    11    78
2014    10    72
2014    9    59
2014    8    64
2014    7    59
2014    6    61
2014    5    68
2014    4    75
2014    3    69
2014    2    81
2014    1    79
2013    12    81
2013    11    84
2013    10    96
2013    9    73
2013    8    72
2013    7    69
2013    6    61
2013    5    88
2013    4    117
2013    3    91
2013    2    81
2013    1    77
2012    12    66
2012    11    67
2012    10    79
2012    9    58
2012    8    40
2012    7    52
2012    6    41
2012    5    72
2012    4    91
2012    3    93
2012    2    86
2012    1    97
2011    12    92
2011    11    76
2011    10    99
2011    9    68
2011    8    59
2011    7    70
2011    6    60
2011    5    71
2011    4    66
2011    3    139
2011    2    107
2011    1    120
2010    12    100
2010    11    113
2010    10    105
2010    9    119
2010    8    141
2010    7    135
2010    6    121
2010    5    126
2010    4    120
2010    3    148
2010    2    172
2010    1    172
2009    12    180
2009    11    171
2009    10    183
2009    9    185
2009    8    211
2009    7    166
2009    6    172
2009    5    194
2009    4    198
2009    3    196
2009    2    217
2009    1    222
2008    12    219
2008    11    209
2008    10    221
2008    9    178
2008    8    200
2008    7    205
2008    6    188
2008    5    173
2008    4    169
2008    3    219
2008    2    329
2008    1    279
2007    12    157
2007    11    39
2007    10    37

Number of posts per month

Code:
Year - Month - Posts
2015    1    734
2014    12    1,648
2014    11    1,479
2014    10    1,077
2014    9    774
2014    8    801
2014    7    969
2014    6    951
2014    5    1,103
2014    4    1,397
2014    3    1,280
2014    2    1,706
2014    1    1,703
2013    12    1,482
2013    11    1,391
2013    10    1,468
2013    9    1,272
2013    8    1,116
2013    7    1,025
2013    6    1,020
2013    5    1,741
2013    4    2,022
2013    3    1,194
2013    2    1,134
2013    1    1,365
2012    12    659
2012    11    538
2012    10    632
2012    9    408
2012    8    270
2012    7    487
2012    6    271
2012    5    777
2012    4    1,324
2012    3    1,578
2012    2    1,127
2012    1    1,175
2011    12    959
2011    11    730
2011    10    993
2011    9    533
2011    8    614
2011    7    862
2011    6    770
2011    5    663
2011    4    420
2011    3    1,322
2011    2    1,154
2011    1    1,650
2010    12    1,094
2010    11    1,266
2010    10    1,086
2010    9    1,120
2010    8    1,408
2010    7    1,704
2010    6    1,458
2010    5    2,186
2010    4    1,656
2010    3    2,719
2010    2    4,146
2010    1    3,598
2009    12    3,261
2009    11    3,746
2009    10    4,525
2009    9    4,404
2009    8    5,937
2009    7    3,943
2009    6    3,834
2009    5    4,022
2009    4    4,304
2009    3    5,059
2009    2    5,720
2009    1    6,670
2008    12    6,370
2008    11    5,851
2008    10    5,271
2008    9    4,768
2008    8    5,072
2008    7    5,475
2008    6    5,500
2008    5    3,857
2008    4    4,627
2008    3    6,688
2008    2    8,669
2008    1    8,100
2007    12    3,018
2007    11    195
2007    10    258

Thread views per month
Code:
Year - Month - Thread Views
2015    1    6,326
2014    12    25,914
2014    11    46,414
2014    10    21,119
2014    9    9,239
2014    8    6,906
2014    7    23,236
2014    6    28,485
2014    5    25,763
2014    4    24,730
2014    3    30,082
2014    2    111,403
2014    1    37,305
2013    12    64,748
2013    11    41,253
2013    10    61,668
2013    9    29,862
2013    8    36,283
2013    7    17,967
2013    6    55,860
2013    5    67,166
2013    4    86,427
2013    3    52,170
2013    2    52,474
2013    1    181,456
2012    12    186,372
2012    11    32,768
2012    10    43,315
2012    9    17,211
2012    8    21,342
2012    7    18,998
2012    6    25,110
2012    5    52,142
2012    4    37,654
2012    3    109,817
2012    2    52,084
2012    1    132,180
2011    12    84,406
2011    11    76,100
2011    10    43,598
2011    9    42,375
2011    8    42,723
2011    7    38,949
2011    6    45,092
2011    5    45,563
2011    4    43,444
2011    3    144,059
2011    2    101,170
2011    1    117,210
2010    12    64,260
2010    11    93,799
2010    10    153,389
2010    9    107,527
2010    8    122,676
2010    7    82,618
2010    6    89,208
2010    5    72,866
2010    4    63,792
2010    3    118,344
2010    2    251,452
2010    1    164,795
2009    12    166,663
2009    11    140,571
2009    10    302,970
2009    9    195,559
2009    8    345,977
2009    7    153,483
2009    6    169,297
2009    5    202,037
2009    4    232,358
2009    3    243,043
2009    2    253,591
2009    1    358,556
2008    12    583,152
2008    11    290,489
2008    10    375,952
2008    9    369,645
2008    8    554,062
2008    7    342,727
2008    6    336,725
2008    5    443,934
2008    4    379,072
2008    3    696,777
2008    2    746,972
2008    1    1,066,855
2007    12    567,177
2007    11    94,414
2007    10    152,127


Some Google Analytics for the same period (main graph shows Users per month)


View attachment 222



So that makes for some sad reading, really. :(

So basically there was a big drop off at the end of the 2010-11 season, and it never recovered. Not sure exactly how to explain it; the Yellow Army started their Facebook page around the middle of 2010 so can't really say that was too much of a factor (??), but interestingly enough, here was our home page in the 2010-11 season:

View attachment 223

And then the whole of 2011-12 went through looking like this

View attachment 224


So there you go. Probably a little too much information :D
Any questions/comments, fire away.
I love the look of the 2011-2012 it's better than the current one imo (no offence)
 
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