You can help CCMFans expand!

Discussion in 'ccmfans.net' started by adz, Jan 3, 2015.


  1. adz

    adz Moderator Staff Member

    Hi all, coming into the new year we are looking at expanding our little community here. Established in 2004, we are the longest running CCM Fan Community around. We've seen groups pop up over the years, some sticking around, some fading away.

    In recent weeks, we have started using our facebook page more, and have plans of doing even more in 2015 with fan related updates and information, maybe a contest here and there.

    Getting the word out on facebook is a great way to get more attention to the site. More fans, more posts, more discussion!

    So please, help us expand our community; LIKE and SHARE our facebook page.

    Thank you.
     
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  2. sydmariner

    sydmariner Well-Known Member

    :shoutclap::shoutclap::shoutclap:
     
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  3. MagpieMariner

    MagpieMariner Well-Known Member

    Done.
     
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  4. nearlyyellow

    nearlyyellow Well-Known Member

    I'd like to help ... but this old dinosaur doesn't Facebook, at least, not publicly, it's a private presence, all locked down to the very tight family member group. Sorry. :cool: But I can see that this is a very good initiative and I hope that it does achieve the desired outcome. ( I have an anonymous Facebook alias but there's absolutely no point in liking from that and I can't share, I'm anon. remember? Nobody there but me! :p )
     
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  5. adz

    adz Moderator Staff Member

    No worries! Plenty of people don't have Facebook, and plenty of people don't read the forum.
    Hoping that by spreading the word a bit via facebook, that will raise awareness a bit of the forum and the fan community in general.
     
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  6. VicMariner

    VicMariner Well-Known Member

    This forum has 1799 members but how many are regular posters?
    Is the number of regular posters climbing or remaining steady?
     
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  7. adz

    adz Moderator Staff Member

    Nobody has ever asked for stats before... when I've posted them (and other things regarding site design/development) in the past I've actually been told "we don't give a shit, as long as it works!!"... ha!

    So anyway, and this may be a bit more than you wanted, but here goes...

    This is raw data pulled from our DB, starting with number of people posting per month;

    Code:
    Year - Month - People Posting
    2015    1    61
    2014    12    80
    2014    11    78
    2014    10    72
    2014    9    59
    2014    8    64
    2014    7    59
    2014    6    61
    2014    5    68
    2014    4    75
    2014    3    69
    2014    2    81
    2014    1    79
    2013    12    81
    2013    11    84
    2013    10    96
    2013    9    73
    2013    8    72
    2013    7    69
    2013    6    61
    2013    5    88
    2013    4    117
    2013    3    91
    2013    2    81
    2013    1    77
    2012    12    66
    2012    11    67
    2012    10    79
    2012    9    58
    2012    8    40
    2012    7    52
    2012    6    41
    2012    5    72
    2012    4    91
    2012    3    93
    2012    2    86
    2012    1    97
    2011    12    92
    2011    11    76
    2011    10    99
    2011    9    68
    2011    8    59
    2011    7    70
    2011    6    60
    2011    5    71
    2011    4    66
    2011    3    139
    2011    2    107
    2011    1    120
    2010    12    100
    2010    11    113
    2010    10    105
    2010    9    119
    2010    8    141
    2010    7    135
    2010    6    121
    2010    5    126
    2010    4    120
    2010    3    148
    2010    2    172
    2010    1    172
    2009    12    180
    2009    11    171
    2009    10    183
    2009    9    185
    2009    8    211
    2009    7    166
    2009    6    172
    2009    5    194
    2009    4    198
    2009    3    196
    2009    2    217
    2009    1    222
    2008    12    219
    2008    11    209
    2008    10    221
    2008    9    178
    2008    8    200
    2008    7    205
    2008    6    188
    2008    5    173
    2008    4    169
    2008    3    219
    2008    2    329
    2008    1    279
    2007    12    157
    2007    11    39
    2007    10    37
    

    Number of posts per month

    Code:
    Year - Month - Posts
    2015    1    734
    2014    12    1,648
    2014    11    1,479
    2014    10    1,077
    2014    9    774
    2014    8    801
    2014    7    969
    2014    6    951
    2014    5    1,103
    2014    4    1,397
    2014    3    1,280
    2014    2    1,706
    2014    1    1,703
    2013    12    1,482
    2013    11    1,391
    2013    10    1,468
    2013    9    1,272
    2013    8    1,116
    2013    7    1,025
    2013    6    1,020
    2013    5    1,741
    2013    4    2,022
    2013    3    1,194
    2013    2    1,134
    2013    1    1,365
    2012    12    659
    2012    11    538
    2012    10    632
    2012    9    408
    2012    8    270
    2012    7    487
    2012    6    271
    2012    5    777
    2012    4    1,324
    2012    3    1,578
    2012    2    1,127
    2012    1    1,175
    2011    12    959
    2011    11    730
    2011    10    993
    2011    9    533
    2011    8    614
    2011    7    862
    2011    6    770
    2011    5    663
    2011    4    420
    2011    3    1,322
    2011    2    1,154
    2011    1    1,650
    2010    12    1,094
    2010    11    1,266
    2010    10    1,086
    2010    9    1,120
    2010    8    1,408
    2010    7    1,704
    2010    6    1,458
    2010    5    2,186
    2010    4    1,656
    2010    3    2,719
    2010    2    4,146
    2010    1    3,598
    2009    12    3,261
    2009    11    3,746
    2009    10    4,525
    2009    9    4,404
    2009    8    5,937
    2009    7    3,943
    2009    6    3,834
    2009    5    4,022
    2009    4    4,304
    2009    3    5,059
    2009    2    5,720
    2009    1    6,670
    2008    12    6,370
    2008    11    5,851
    2008    10    5,271
    2008    9    4,768
    2008    8    5,072
    2008    7    5,475
    2008    6    5,500
    2008    5    3,857
    2008    4    4,627
    2008    3    6,688
    2008    2    8,669
    2008    1    8,100
    2007    12    3,018
    2007    11    195
    2007    10    258
    

    Thread views per month
    Code:
    Year - Month - Thread Views
    2015    1    6,326
    2014    12    25,914
    2014    11    46,414
    2014    10    21,119
    2014    9    9,239
    2014    8    6,906
    2014    7    23,236
    2014    6    28,485
    2014    5    25,763
    2014    4    24,730
    2014    3    30,082
    2014    2    111,403
    2014    1    37,305
    2013    12    64,748
    2013    11    41,253
    2013    10    61,668
    2013    9    29,862
    2013    8    36,283
    2013    7    17,967
    2013    6    55,860
    2013    5    67,166
    2013    4    86,427
    2013    3    52,170
    2013    2    52,474
    2013    1    181,456
    2012    12    186,372
    2012    11    32,768
    2012    10    43,315
    2012    9    17,211
    2012    8    21,342
    2012    7    18,998
    2012    6    25,110
    2012    5    52,142
    2012    4    37,654
    2012    3    109,817
    2012    2    52,084
    2012    1    132,180
    2011    12    84,406
    2011    11    76,100
    2011    10    43,598
    2011    9    42,375
    2011    8    42,723
    2011    7    38,949
    2011    6    45,092
    2011    5    45,563
    2011    4    43,444
    2011    3    144,059
    2011    2    101,170
    2011    1    117,210
    2010    12    64,260
    2010    11    93,799
    2010    10    153,389
    2010    9    107,527
    2010    8    122,676
    2010    7    82,618
    2010    6    89,208
    2010    5    72,866
    2010    4    63,792
    2010    3    118,344
    2010    2    251,452
    2010    1    164,795
    2009    12    166,663
    2009    11    140,571
    2009    10    302,970
    2009    9    195,559
    2009    8    345,977
    2009    7    153,483
    2009    6    169,297
    2009    5    202,037
    2009    4    232,358
    2009    3    243,043
    2009    2    253,591
    2009    1    358,556
    2008    12    583,152
    2008    11    290,489
    2008    10    375,952
    2008    9    369,645
    2008    8    554,062
    2008    7    342,727
    2008    6    336,725
    2008    5    443,934
    2008    4    379,072
    2008    3    696,777
    2008    2    746,972
    2008    1    1,066,855
    2007    12    567,177
    2007    11    94,414
    2007    10    152,127
    


    Some Google Analytics for the same period (main graph shows Users per month)
    ccmfans_analytics.jpg



    So that makes for some sad reading, really. :(

    So basically there was a big drop off at the end of the 2010-11 season, and it never recovered. Not sure exactly how to explain it; the Yellow Army started their Facebook page around the middle of 2010 so can't really say that was too much of a factor (??), but interestingly enough, here was our home page in the 2010-11 season:

    ccmfans_dec_2010.jpg

    And then the whole of 2011-12 went through looking like this

    ccmfans_feb_2012.jpg


    So there you go. Probably a little too much information :D
    Any questions/comments, fire away.
     

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  8. VicMariner

    VicMariner Well-Known Member

    Fantasic reply! Thanks very much.

    2009 - 2011 looks like the time with the most users and then tailed off a bit and remained steady since.
    I was hoping to see a gradual increase. Oh well.

    What does "bounce rate" mean?
    On the blue/green pie chart what does "visitors" mean? Members, Lurkers or all?

    ETA
    Thanks to google:
    Bounce rate = represents the percentage of visitors who enter the site and "bounce" (leave the site) rather than continue viewing other pages.
     
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  9. adz

    adz Moderator Staff Member

    I think it's a pretty common problem across the internets, people lost interest with forums.

    Here's a post (on another forum, funnily enough) in November that has a few links in it and they say "They've been declining since 2010. For pretty much the entire current decade." - http://forums.soompi.com/en/discussion/2025129/the-decline-of-internet-forums

    Another one discussing whether forums are dead (again on another forum) ... https://forums.digitalpoint.com/threads/are-forums-dead.2715554/


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    Anyhoo... there's quite a few discussions around on the topic of forums dying/dead or not.
    I never wanted the site to be "just a forum", but a few factors have lead to it being exactly that today.

    Here is an article on bounce rate, funnily enough we are in the "unlikely" category according to this...
    http://www.gorocketfuel.com/the-rocket-blog/whats-the-average-bounce-rate-in-google-analytics/

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    And as far as "visitors", a while ago Google changed up their terminology, and what they used to call visitors they now call "users" - so basically anyone on the site, logged in or not. I guess they didn't update the pie graph!


    There's another stat that we cannot quantify and that is the quality of posts. We may have had more people and more posts but I think a lot of the posts were arguments, stupid shit, and basically crap that nobody wanted to read anyway... but still did I guess ;)

    The quality is much better now, we have some good discussions going and better quality reviews, just less of it. Of course that's just my opinion, others may disagree.
     
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  10. VicMariner

    VicMariner Well-Known Member

    Thanks once again for your comprehensive reply.

    If forums are in decline in general then it is good this one seems to be steady.
    I'm sure over the years as the league grows this site will too.

    The bounce rate does seem to be good for this site.
    How to get unregistered people to join and non posting members to post more regularly is the big question I guess.

    Quality wise I think this forum is great. Wide range of opinions, no flaming and almost no arguments.
    Hats off to the people who put their time and effort into running it.
     
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  11. nearlyyellow

    nearlyyellow Well-Known Member

    imho it's not possible to get the same interaction and participation if you are a twat or if you facepage. Part of the enjoyment of this site is the to-ing and fro-ing between forum members. Topics can be defined, or not. Posts can be on topic or not. Humour, sarcasm can be used or not, and appreciated or not. This place and places like it are *flexible*. Why, you can even be semantic if you wish. ;) Nah, this forum and fora (forums) like it are great places to interact with others of a like mind. After all we can't all get in a room together to have a chat so this is the place for us.
    I enjoy coming here. My thanks go to the hard workers who keep the site up, current and moderated. Thanks guys. :cheers:
     
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  12. Big Al

    Big Al Well-Known Member

    I like the constant from posters. Great hardcore group with good knowledge very few arguements it resolved and no real time wasters.
    Quality over quantity.

    Keep up the good work ads and crew.
     
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  13. sydmariner

    sydmariner Well-Known Member

    I love the look of the 2011-2012 it's better than the current one imo (no offence)
     
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  14. adz

    adz Moderator Staff Member

    Are you talking about the under construction notice? lol
     
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