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Wonders will never cease - Fozzie praises Mariners

midfielder

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Unbeliverable but true Fozzie has written a positive article about us...

http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/craig-foster/blog/1067437/Mariners-an-example-for-all

Mariners an example for all17Comments
05 Aug 2011 | 00:00-Craig Foster


Central Coast Mariners, not for the first time in the club’s short history, is leading the way in community engagement.



Bravo to all involved in Central Coast Football. You have demonstrated leadership and shown the way forward for the rest of the country.

In the early years of the A-League Mariners committed its players to meaningful roles within the grassroots community, with senior players adopting a number of junior clubs and becoming recognised mentor figures.

Players attended training sessions, club functions and got to know the volunteers and kids at the clubs to which they were responsible. It was a world away from the out-dated ‘solitary visit model’, where a group of athletes comes to a club or school for one visit, then disappears.

Now the club has done it again, signing a landmark agreement with Central Coast Football (CCF) which brings the entire local football program under the Mariners banner. Where there once may have been disconnect between the A-League franchise and local clubs, there is now an elite coherent pathway for junior players aspiring to reach the top level.

It’s fantastic to see. Two groups in football have got together to find a solution for a fractured system where young players don’t know which way to turn, whether to play for development squads of the local association, the state body or the A-League club.

What they’ve created is a fully integrated, top-to-bottom pathway which allows every talented child the opportunity to train for Mariners and dream of a professional career.

It’s refreshing to see. Too often in our game different parties are too interested in advancing their own agendas, protecting their turf, keeping hold of their talent and making the mistake of thinking they own a talented player.

Rarely are the competing demands on young players ever considered.

Speaking this week to a youth coach of elite girls, I was told of how a Football NSW development camp had been scheduled at a critical time of the season, jeopardising all the important work carried out over many months.

Some girls had to pull out to take part in NSW Combined High Schools (CHS) trials. The school system hadn’t considered the effect on club football. A few weeks later, some girls had to leave before the finals series because they had club futsal trials for a league starting many months later.

There was no consideration of the training load on the girls as each different organisation fought to get their piece of the talented players with with scant regard for the other sectors within the game.

Each of these competitions has its own vested interest and with a limited talent pool, the same girls or boys are training and playing in the same elite competitions across all of these areas, with no co-ordination whatsoever.

The effect on player development is alarming. With some kids playing and training so much, they are breaking down physically in their early teens because they are in a State development program, attending a school with its own elite development program training and playing club football simultaneously.

It’s a total mess and parents of talented children spend a fortune in time and money trying to navigate through the system to find the best solution for their child.

It is all the same game and we need to ensure that our talented youngsters are educated correctly, nurtured scientifically, directed properly and supported thoroughly.

In order to succeed as a football nation, we cannot afford any ‘wastage’ from the system. Children must be tracked and monitored and given every chance to succeed methodically and sustainably, for their health and the health of their career.

We need Football Federation Australia to develop an integrated system that takes into account all club, school and elite programs and to track each talented player to ensure they are being taught by trained educators but not overloaded.

The first step is for all elite programs to come under the A-League clubs, like what’s happened at Mariners, to ensure everything the child does is geared towards playing in the A-League and thereafter, internationally.

Every grassroots region of the country should be a part of an A-League club catchment area, both recreational and elite development programs, to finally integrate the game from bottom to top and drive everyone in the game into the stadia to support our professional league.

Congratulations to the Central Coast football community, I love what you’ve done for the simple reason that it is the best interests of the children and the game. You are the benchmark for the rest to follow.
One caveat, though. At the end of the press release it says the ‘agreement is subject to relevant approvals by FFA and FNSW.’

That could be where the problem lies.
 

Muppet

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Kudos to him for recognising the great work that the Mariners are doing with Football in Australia and spreading the word. When he is not pontificating Fozzie does some wonderful stuff in the football community.

I think one of the interesting aspects about this tie up with CCF is the financial side. Correct me if I am wrong but when Hummel signed on as a sponsor the Mariners were given the distribution rights for Hummel throughout the Coast. Does this mean from next season that all local clubs will be directed/encouraged to buy Hummel gear? Not against it per se. It could be a wonderful opportunity for all parties if the price of strips are kept at a financial level which clubs/players/supporters can afford.
 

FFC Mariner

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I for one will never forgive him for his racist assault on Lawrie a couple of years ago.

The man is an oxygen thief.

/end rant
 

Forum Phoenix

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Well well, pigs can fly. Well done Mr Foster.
Though I was about to mirror FFC's comments.
Hard to believe he would have ever written this if Lawrie was still coaching us.

But we are playing some pretty bloody good football now it has to be said.
Combine this with the CEO etc etc...
We are one impressive Thomas the Tank engine of a club.
 

dibo

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I for one will never forgive him for his racist assault on Lawrie a couple of years ago.

The man is an oxygen thief.

/end rant


Welcome back FFC Mariner :pirashoot: :pirashoot:

Noice boys!

I think the main thing here is Foster's using us to attack FNSW, rather than just directly praising us. He's saying the nice things he has to in order to line up the swings at the Glenwood crew, and I'm not sure that they (through Tobin) weren't a pretty big part of the Mariners' program's genesis.

Tobin's rewriting the entire rep structures for 2013 for FNSW (in consultation with FFA who are building nationally consistent elite pathways) right now. Tobin was wearing a 2009 era Mariners tie when last I saw him at Glenwood too. Today the Mariners, tomorrow... Just sayin'...

As for schools, as someone who has to deal with combining kids' school and elite football programs, can I say it's a complete pain in the arse. For the most part schools don't care about development (that's someone else's problem), they care about trophies - it's a sideline for them, it's extra-curricular. Development is the job of clubs etc. Schools' coaches are often completely untrained. The competitions are structured to fit around terms and exams, not rep programs, and no two school systems seems to work on the same dates...

He's asking for a bit more than can be easily delivered.
 

curious

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Noice boys!

I think the main thing here is Foster's using us to attack FNSW, rather than just directly praising us. He's saying the nice things he has to in order to line up the swings at the Glenwood crew, and I'm not sure that they (through Tobin) weren't a pretty big part of the Mariners' program's genesis.

Tobin's rewriting the entire rep structures for 2013 for FNSW (in consultation with FFA who are building nationally consistent elite pathways) right now. Tobin was wearing a 2009 era Mariners tie when last I saw him at Glenwood too. Today the Mariners, tomorrow... Just sayin'...

As for schools, as someone who has to deal with combining kids' school and elite football programs, can I say it's a complete pain in the arse. For the most part schools don't care about development (that's someone else's problem), they care about trophies - it's a sideline for them, it's extra-curricular. Development is the job of clubs etc. Schools' coaches are often completely untrained. The competitions are structured to fit around terms and exams, not rep programs, and no two school systems seems to work on the same dates...

He's asking for a bit more than can be easily delivered.

I'm afraid i'm not a believer in the ffa, the Mariners or anyone else poking their nose in school sport other than to assist in the principle of school sport. It's purpose is just as it appears. A school programme for the enjoyment and benefit of the well being of the school kids and to provide some healthy inter-school competition, not a development pathway or regimented system as another means to an end for the aleague. At least at school, in school sport and unless a specialised sports school, let school kids be kids and enjoy it, just for the fun.

We need Football Federation Australia to develop an integrated system that takes into account all club, school and elite programs and to track each talented player to ensure they are being taught by trained educators but not overloaded

Who pays for qualified football coaches in each and every public school? "I have a dream........" said foz.

Every grassroots region of the country should be a part of an A-League club catchment area, both recreational and elite development programs, to finally integrate the game from bottom to top and drive everyone in the game into the stadia to support our professional league.

Is the purpose of 'recreational' football the enjoyment and health of all participating or is it a means to gain higher crowds to aleague clubs? There appears to be a trend towards a mindset that all football, including the hundreds of thousands of weekend recreational players are there to serve the aleague and only the aleague. What's happening in football to the thought that the priority of all community sport, including football, is to serve it's community?

Foz would love all Australian football, from giggling 5 year olds to pot bellied all age players, to be baptised in the Church of Evangelistic Football Brethren and attend pulpit thumping sermons every other day, when all the majority prefer is a bit of fun and recreation on the weekend.

Foz, the Fred Nile of Australian football.
 

bikinigirl

Well-Known Member
I think the main thing here is Foster's using us to attack FNSW, rather than just directly praising us.

. don't know about all the other political stuff ... but this is what crystallised my thoughts at the end of the article - sad isn't it

. reminded me of a comment i read in an article the other day attributed to jan verse-slayin (sorry, too lazy to look up the spelling) after foz had criticised his coaching of the joeys. regardless of the merits of such criticism the response was spot on - to paraphrase: 'when isn't foz complaining about something ... not too long ago he was heaping shit on ange and arnie and they are the best coaches in the land at the moment'

. occasionally i see myself agreeing with him ... but most of the time i just want him to STFU - its a shame he has to act like such a cock* all the time

* constantly strutting around with nothing new to contribute, scratching around the edges and kicking sand in the face of those actually out there trying to do things. then putting himself up on a pedestal and cock-a-bloody-doodle-doing from a position where people are forced to listen whether they want to or not
 

bikinigirl

Well-Known Member
I'm afraid i'm not a believer in the ffa, the Mariners or anyone else poking their nose in school sport other than to assist in the principle of school sport. It's purpose is just as it appears. A school programme for the enjoyment and benefit of the well being of the school kids and to provide some healthy inter-school competition, not a development pathway or regimented system as another means to an end for the aleague. At least at school, in school sport and unless a specialised sports school, let school kids be kids and enjoy it, just for the fun.



Who pays for qualified football coaches in each and every public school? "I have a dream........" said foz.



Is the purpose of 'recreational' football the enjoyment and health of all participating or is it a means to gain higher crowds to aleague clubs? There appears to be a trend towards a mindset that all football, including the hundreds of thousands of weekend recreational players are there to serve the aleague and only the aleague. What's happening in football to the thought that the priority of all community sport, including football, is to serve it's community?

Foz would love all Australian football, from giggling 5 year olds to pot bellied all age players, to be baptised in the Church of Evangelistic Football Brethren and attend pulpit thumping sermons every other day, when all the majority prefer is a bit of fun and recreation on the weekend.

Foz, the Fred Nile of Australian football.

. curious, i have to agree

. i was reading and thinking 'but what if you are just a kid (could be anyone) who wants to have a knock around with his/her mates' ... the way it read to me was that there is no place for them in the game - except to raise the a-league higher. heaven forbid someone should actually enjoy themselves

. perhaps i am just showing my prejudice against foz :p but it is as if he cannot comprehend that people may want to do something for the simple enjoyment without wanting to be the best of the best
 

Wombat

Well-Known Member
Life is good..............EPL is about to start (if stadiums dont get burnt down!), I just signed up for Mariners season ticket, FFC is back and Fozzie is not being an off the scale cock-head for a change.

The planets must be lining up nicely.
 

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