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Road to Brazil

midfielder

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After the match against Oman this is what I see...possible scenario

Japan (H) loss
Jordan (A) Win
Iraq (A) loss
Oman (H) Win
Japan (A) Loss
Jordan (H) Win
Iraq (H) win

4 wins, 1 draw, 3 losses 13 points ...would that be enough.

BTW I hope the socceroos put in a better performance in Brisbane, but what happened tonight, it will be an ask to get anything from the Japanese.
 

pjennings

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After the match against Oman this is what I see...possible scenario

Japan (H) loss
Jordan (A) Win
Iraq (A) loss
Oman (H) Win
Japan (A) Loss
Jordan (H) Win
Iraq (H) win

4 wins, 1 draw, 3 losses 13 points ...would that be enough.

BTW I hope the socceroos put in a better performance in Brisbane, but what happened tonight, it will be an ask to get anything from the Japanese.

13 points should be enough. You have assumed that we get no points against Japan. I think we may - but we should make the same assumption for all the remaining teams.

That in effect means you are asking can Iraq, Oman or Jordan get 4 wins from their 5 remaining non-Japan games. That is also what you expect from us. Simply put we have had a hard away game and are in no worse a position than we were before the game.
 

MrCelery

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This is Archie Thompson's record for the Australia national team:

No goals since 2006. Australia's best striker? Shudder.

Year Apps Goals
2001 7 16
2002 0 0
2003 0 0
2004 1 1
2005 8 3
2006 7 1
2007 5 0
2008 2 0
2009 2 0
2010 1 0
2011 0 0
2012 1 0
Total 34 21
 

midfielder

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This is Archie Thompson's record for the Australia national team:

No goals since 2006. Australia's best striker? Shudder.

Year Apps Goals
2001 7 16
2002 0 0
2003 0 0
2004 1 1
2005 8 3
2006 7 1
2007 5 0
2008 2 0
2009 2 0
2010 1 0
2011 0 0
2012 1 0
Total 34 21

Matty would be a better choice .... same for North he must have a photo of Frank or something to still be selected..
 

midfielder

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Has Osieck done his job well .... In terms of youth, people usually have the excuse that none of the young players are playing regularly in Europe and that’s why he is not selecting them as it isn’t his job to develop players but the job of clubs and the job of Han Berger (really he needs to be scrutinised over his role. I get the feeling that he is using the oldest trick in politics, set long term goals so that by the time people can evaluate your success, you will be long gone. considering there hasn’t exactly been any intermediate goals to monitor the progress to the long term success)

however the one player kind of destroy the argument with Nikita Rukavytsya. the most disappointing thing was why Ruka hasn’t been selected. He played 55 games for Hertha BSC in two seasons and 24 of that game was in the Bundesliga. Therefore he is the only young player along with Chris Herd who is getting regular game time at a top division side in Europe.

His non-selection really says it all about the regeneration process of Osieck.
 

Forum Phoenix

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Hard to be happy with his selection against Oman. what was it, youngest player on the park 28?

Biggest issue for me, was yo can't have Wilkshire and Mckay wide and expect to be too dangerous. Just not craetive enough.
Has anyone even seen Luke skin a player? I think this lack through the mids put too much pressure on Bresc and it became close him down and you close the roos down by and large.

Positives Carney was solid but they posed not real threat down that flank. Og was immense I thought.
Personally I think North should be dropped, Wilkshire back to RB. Kruse or other into RM.

Really think with some more dangerous wing play, we will be looking ok.
 

midfielder

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How important is the Japan game not just for the points but to show we still have it...

Gotta bad feeling about this match..
 

Forum Phoenix

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Yeah it's a huge ask coming off Oman in those conditions to play a pumped up Blue Samurais who have had the perfect opening.

I love a good underdog game though. And this feels like we are the under dogs.
 

midfielder

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Off to the pub to watch the match .... go Aussie .. but this Japanese is looking like its belongs in the top ten nations on recent permanence's..
 

pjennings

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No Kennedy, no Holman, no Kewell, no Emerton and Bresc off early in the first half. Milligan controversially sent off. This was an immense effort - not only in the result but the pressing of the Japanese in defense was great.
 

midfielder

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Saw this post on SBS and tho this is a great post … from The Volly on the SBS thread of the match…

I hope ppl stop viewing the Socceroos as with a half glass empty attitude as we read so many times on this forum and other sites. Before the match started tonight a friend of mine said he believed Japan would win. I replied by saying Japan is very good esp. this time round but Socceroos are always hard to beat. Even with one man down we hit the post. Just as it was in South Africa, 10 men Socceroos should have won against Ghana, and we beat Serbia, when most ppl were doubting the squad. We are not unbeatable but we are hard to beat. It’s been like that for years so why are ppl constantly doubting the team?
 

MrCelery

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No Archie Thompson - no wonder we were always in with a chance.

Thankfully not too many blunders from North either, although some of his clumsy feet first tackles could have gone horribly wrong.
 

true believer

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No Archie Thompson - no wonder we were always in with a chance.

Thankfully not too many blunders from North either, although some of his clumsy feet first tackles could have gone horribly wrong.

as a registered north hater. i thought he was very good.
as for milligan. what was osiek thinking? we had no other No10 option? god even dario vidosic would have done
 

midfielder

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Wonders aloud if Archie can get a run why this guy can't... from SBS..

http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/news/1111562/Porta-waits-for-Osieck-s-call

Porta waits for Osieck's call
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29 June 2012-SBS EXCLUSIVE


In-form Uruguay-based hitman Richard Porta is hanging out for a long-awaited cap for Australia but is still waiting to hear from Socceroos coach Holger Osieck.

Sydney-born Porta, 28, made the boldest possible statement of intent to Osieck this season, netting a stunning 17 goals in just 14 starts for newly-crowned Uruguayan champion Nacional, and is now on the wish list of clubs in Europe, Brazil, China and the UAE.

But the list he would most like to be on is the team-sheet of the Socceroos en route to the FIFA World Cup 2014 in Brazil, with Porta’s Sydney-based brother Gonzalo revealing his sibling’s frustration at being overlooked first by Pim Verbeek and now, apparently, by Osieck.

With none of Australia’s current crop of strikers producing the goal output to demand automatic selection, Porta remains a tantalising mystery to the public and also, seemingly, to Socceroos’ technical staff who have yet to see him play in person but have regularly viewed DVDs of a striker renowned for his direct style, heading prowess, raw pace and forensic finishing skills.

As recently as two weeks ago, according to Gonzalo, FFA representatives requested updated DVDs of Porta’s exploits in Uruguay where he has flourished under Argentine coach Marcello Gallardo.

“I have been contacted a couple of times by FFA asking if Richard would be happy to play for Australia and the answer has always been ‘yes’," Gonzalo told The World Game.

“I have talked lately to the Australian federation and they have wanted to look again at DVDs. But Richard is a little disappointed because this has been going on maybe for three or four years now and nothing has happened.

“Richard would like to meet somebody from the federation in person and have a coffee and catch up and talk.

“But he has never been watched over in Uruguay and doesn’t feel there is the intent there. He doesn’t feel he has anything to prove. He’s twice been top scorer in Uruguay which is a tough league and is surprised nothing has come of it.”

A Socceroos source said that Porta remained on the radar and that he would continue to be monitored.

Porta, who left Australia at the age of one, top-scored for Montevideo powerhouse Nacional this season, despite only playing half the year after going out on loan to Diego Maradona’s Al Wasl in the UAE back in September.

Porta played against Lucas Neill’s Al Jazira during his stint in the UAE, with the Australia skipper offering Osieck his feedback.

“Lucas spoke to him during the game and told Richard about the national team. After the game Richard tried to contact him but they didn’t meet,” added Gonzalo.

Gonzalo, who has extensive contacts in Uruguay, is so keen for Richard to be seen in his homeland that he is seeking to arrange for Nacional to come to Australia for a pre-season tour.

“It would be great to make that happen, then they (FFA) could see Richard in person,” he added.

Porta has unfinished business in Europe and is pondering offers from Germany, Portugal and Spain.

Gonzalo added: “My feeling is that he would like to go back to Europe because people said he failed there. People said he wasn’t good enough and he wants to show they are wrong.”

Porta feels he has a point to prove after his $3.7 million move to Serie A Siena in 2008 turned sour following a change of coach. That was followed by a loan spell in Portugal with Belenenses where another change at the top stymied his progress.

“In Dubai, he was carrying an injury and he wasn’t ready to play but Maradona put pressure on him to play and he was struggling with his fitness,” said Gonzalo.

“It’s ironic that when he was finally fit he was on his way back to Uruguay where he couldn’t stop scoring. He even got back-to-back hat-tricks. He was upset with Maradona because he really didn’t support him in Dubai.”

Porta could easily be lost to the Uruguay national team which, while boasting the likes of Edinson Cavani and Luis Suarez, may soon be looking to replace the ageing Diego Forlan, who will be 35 when Brazil 2014 rolls around.

While Porta has represented Uruguay at under-20 level, the closest he has come to a green and gold shirt was during a training camp with Australia's under-17 team in 1999.

“He is just waiting to see what happens but the Uruguay national team are more than aware of him and something could also happen there. He has been spoken to and of course he’d love to play for a national team,” added Gonzalo.

“Of course, growing up in Uruguay it would be hard to go against them if they made the offer.”
 

Gratis

Well-Known Member
reckon he's one Arnie is talking to at all? apart from bits and pieces haven't known much about Porta
 

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