Capn Gus Bloodbeard
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So, shit hit the fan a bit today.
I'm not going to post the article because every click means financial support - but basically, that old-poo-and-crud-that-forms-under-the-lip-of-the-toilet-bowl excuse for a human being Rebecca Wilson has come all out with a stack of blatant lies about how bad the HAL is. Then they've displayed the names and photos of what is apparently every person currently banned from the HAL.
This is the text from the link provided by the first respondent in this thread (thanks!):
The other concern is the publishing of all the people who have been banned. The concerns have already been mentioned on here - some who are banned are claiming innocence, but there are no rights to appeal or anything like that. Given people get kicked out just for standing on seats - heck, I remember Jesus got kicked out just for walking in front of Bay 14 when SFC occupied it, even without so much as looking at the supporters - it's not farfetched to wonder if there are innocent people among that. But innocent or not, if this leak has come from the FFA, then they've blatantly breached their privacy policy:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1139736302717062&set=p.1139736302717062&type=3&theater
I know a number of those affected are seeking legal advice. There is a possibility of a class action suit against the FFA over this. I wonder if it's possible this would have come from the police instead of the FFA, but this information may come out later. If it has come from the FFA, then it's absolutely disgusting and heads need to roll. I wonder if this is poor timing for Lowy Mk 2 - here's hoping he hasn't had anything to do with it. Regardless, this is his first leadership test - how will he handle it?
Of course, it doesn't help when the dickead police spokespersons keep on with their anti-football garbage:
https://scontent.fadl1-1.fna.fbcdn....=b85cabef884d72c7cc01bee2a83d242e&oe=56E9CDEC
It will be interesting to see if there's a genuine fallout from this, or if it will just fizzle.
I'm not going to post the article because every click means financial support - but basically, that old-poo-and-crud-that-forms-under-the-lip-of-the-toilet-bowl excuse for a human being Rebecca Wilson has come all out with a stack of blatant lies about how bad the HAL is. Then they've displayed the names and photos of what is apparently every person currently banned from the HAL.
This is the text from the link provided by the first respondent in this thread (thanks!):
THIS is the shame file Australian football bosses didn’t want you to see, the louts who’ve sent the sport into a downward spiral.
The top secret document features 40 pages of photographs of 198 soccer louts banned from the 10 A-League clubs, with nearly half hailing from the Western Sydney Wanderers.
While the FFA claims cricket and rugby league contain just as many bad eggs, The Sunday Telegraph can reveal that league has only 19 banned fans and cricket fewer than that.
The football shame file features fans who have engaged in conduct ranging from violence, assault or flare throwing to general thuggery in a three-year period up to October 30. More than a quarter of them have tried repeatedly, and often succeeded, to re-enter grounds even after bans have been imposed.
Police Commissioner Andrew Scipione believes crowd behaviour from some fans is spreading away from the stadiums, where police are witnessing horrendous assaults by some supporters on rival fans as they walk to the ground.
“The last thing we want to get to in Australia is putting rival fans in cages like the UK model,” Mr Scipione said.
“It should be a privilege and an enjoyable thing to attend sport in Australia. The sport must look deep within its culture to admit there is a problem.”
The issue has become so serious that stadiums are now moving to ban the local derbies between the Wanderers and Sydney FC until the FFA can contain the turmoil.
Officials now lock down the stadium 24 hours before the local derby contests so seating areas, toilets and even plumbing can be searched. Flares have been located in toilet pipes, planted by ground staff in collusion with fans.
Police are at their wits’ end with fans, clubs and the FFA. While there have been wide-ranging crisis talks over the issue with soccer authorities, the government and police say they are far from solving what has become the worst problem in Australian sport.
The head of the Major Events and Incident Squad, Assistant Commissioner Kyle Stewart, said that while the A-League is meant to represent the so-called beautiful game, fan behaviour of those on the banned list is “ugly, dangerous and extremely selfish”. Mr Stewart said controlling fans was not just a police matter.
“There is a bloody-mindedness within some of the clubs and the FFA that does not accept responsibility for the culture. It is their responsibility to mend that,” he said.
“The diatribe about us being the fun police comes from those who have an exceedingly huge level of ignorance about the role we play.’’
A violent fan is led away by police during a previous match between the Newcastle Jets and Western Sydney Wanderers.
FFA boss David Gallop admits there is a problem but says anti-social behaviour around games goes beyond football’s jurisdiction.
“It’s a problem from parents, school teachers to police,” he said.
“By and large, behaviour within our venues has improved but many of the problems now exist outside the venues.’’
A quick glance at the list of incidences suggests the FFA is in a state of denial over the extent of the problem.
The conduct, described by one law enforcement officer as “Moore Park mayhem” when Western Sydney play Sydney FC at Allianz Stadium, now include vicious assaults on rival fans by some supporters as they walk to the stadium.
“Behave like a civilised human and not some grubby pack animal and you’ll find yourself buying many, many more season passes,” Mr Stewart said.
One of those “grubby pack animals” is a Wanderers fan who is a kindergarten teacher. He has been banned for violence and offensive behaviour.
Mr Scipione said police have been unfairly targeted for being too heavy- handed with fans but that it’s time for the code itself to address the issues.
“I sat with Dave Gallop (when NRL boss) and the people at the Bulldogs when they had a terrible fan problem,” he said.
“We sorted the issues out but it started within the club and at the NRL.
So, there's the obvious lies, about the hundreds of HAL fans turning matches into battlegrounds, or about it being as bad as the worst of the EPL. And on that note, surely this has to cross the line into blatant libel? I'd love to see the FFA come out all guns blazing against this crap. I'd love a defamation lawsuit, personally.The top secret document features 40 pages of photographs of 198 soccer louts banned from the 10 A-League clubs, with nearly half hailing from the Western Sydney Wanderers.
While the FFA claims cricket and rugby league contain just as many bad eggs, The Sunday Telegraph can reveal that league has only 19 banned fans and cricket fewer than that.
The football shame file features fans who have engaged in conduct ranging from violence, assault or flare throwing to general thuggery in a three-year period up to October 30. More than a quarter of them have tried repeatedly, and often succeeded, to re-enter grounds even after bans have been imposed.
Police Commissioner Andrew Scipione believes crowd behaviour from some fans is spreading away from the stadiums, where police are witnessing horrendous assaults by some supporters on rival fans as they walk to the ground.
“The last thing we want to get to in Australia is putting rival fans in cages like the UK model,” Mr Scipione said.
“It should be a privilege and an enjoyable thing to attend sport in Australia. The sport must look deep within its culture to admit there is a problem.”
The issue has become so serious that stadiums are now moving to ban the local derbies between the Wanderers and Sydney FC until the FFA can contain the turmoil.
Officials now lock down the stadium 24 hours before the local derby contests so seating areas, toilets and even plumbing can be searched. Flares have been located in toilet pipes, planted by ground staff in collusion with fans.
Police are at their wits’ end with fans, clubs and the FFA. While there have been wide-ranging crisis talks over the issue with soccer authorities, the government and police say they are far from solving what has become the worst problem in Australian sport.
The head of the Major Events and Incident Squad, Assistant Commissioner Kyle Stewart, said that while the A-League is meant to represent the so-called beautiful game, fan behaviour of those on the banned list is “ugly, dangerous and extremely selfish”. Mr Stewart said controlling fans was not just a police matter.
“There is a bloody-mindedness within some of the clubs and the FFA that does not accept responsibility for the culture. It is their responsibility to mend that,” he said.
“The diatribe about us being the fun police comes from those who have an exceedingly huge level of ignorance about the role we play.’’
A violent fan is led away by police during a previous match between the Newcastle Jets and Western Sydney Wanderers.
FFA boss David Gallop admits there is a problem but says anti-social behaviour around games goes beyond football’s jurisdiction.
“It’s a problem from parents, school teachers to police,” he said.
“By and large, behaviour within our venues has improved but many of the problems now exist outside the venues.’’
A quick glance at the list of incidences suggests the FFA is in a state of denial over the extent of the problem.
The conduct, described by one law enforcement officer as “Moore Park mayhem” when Western Sydney play Sydney FC at Allianz Stadium, now include vicious assaults on rival fans by some supporters as they walk to the stadium.
“Behave like a civilised human and not some grubby pack animal and you’ll find yourself buying many, many more season passes,” Mr Stewart said.
One of those “grubby pack animals” is a Wanderers fan who is a kindergarten teacher. He has been banned for violence and offensive behaviour.
Mr Scipione said police have been unfairly targeted for being too heavy- handed with fans but that it’s time for the code itself to address the issues.
“I sat with Dave Gallop (when NRL boss) and the people at the Bulldogs when they had a terrible fan problem,” he said.
“We sorted the issues out but it started within the club and at the NRL.
The other concern is the publishing of all the people who have been banned. The concerns have already been mentioned on here - some who are banned are claiming innocence, but there are no rights to appeal or anything like that. Given people get kicked out just for standing on seats - heck, I remember Jesus got kicked out just for walking in front of Bay 14 when SFC occupied it, even without so much as looking at the supporters - it's not farfetched to wonder if there are innocent people among that. But innocent or not, if this leak has come from the FFA, then they've blatantly breached their privacy policy:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1139736302717062&set=p.1139736302717062&type=3&theater
I know a number of those affected are seeking legal advice. There is a possibility of a class action suit against the FFA over this. I wonder if it's possible this would have come from the police instead of the FFA, but this information may come out later. If it has come from the FFA, then it's absolutely disgusting and heads need to roll. I wonder if this is poor timing for Lowy Mk 2 - here's hoping he hasn't had anything to do with it. Regardless, this is his first leadership test - how will he handle it?
Of course, it doesn't help when the dickead police spokespersons keep on with their anti-football garbage:
https://scontent.fadl1-1.fna.fbcdn....=b85cabef884d72c7cc01bee2a83d242e&oe=56E9CDEC
It will be interesting to see if there's a genuine fallout from this, or if it will just fizzle.
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