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Huddo

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In fact, despite having always been an Arnie fan, I can't help but feel he's lost the plot with some of his recent selections (and non-selections).

Would not mind at all seeing Staj put a new broom through the Socceroos.
Dunno how half these players have been selected.
Major issues in the whole team.
Ryan riding pine.
Vuks riding pine and 36.
Redmayne mediocre at best.
Behich has been shocking, and is trapped in Turkey.
Degenek was up until 2 days ago was with out club.
King and Grant, WTF
R. McGowan is in the Kuwaiti league.
In attack there is 4 MC Players, now MC have been good but not that good.
 

pjennings

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Dunno how half these players have been selected.
Major issues in the whole team.
Ryan riding pine.
Vuks riding pine and 36.
Redmayne mediocre at best.

Behich has been shocking, and is trapped in Turkey.
Degenek was up until 2 days ago was with out club.
King and Grant, WTF
R. McGowan is in the Kuwaiti league.
In attack there is 4 MC Players, now MC have been good but not that good.
Who are your 3 keepers?
 

Tevor

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Dunno how half these players have been selected.
Major issues in the whole team.
Ryan riding pine.
Vuks riding pine and 36.
Redmayne mediocre at best.
Behich has been shocking, and is trapped in Turkey.
Degenek was up until 2 days ago was with out club.
King and Grant, WTF
R. McGowan is in the Kuwaiti league.
In attack there is 4 MC Players, now MC have been good but not that good.
Totally agree, it’s a real Mates team. Should beat Vietnam however Oman will be difficult away. Leckie has been ordinary for some time now.
 

Melange

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Dunno how half these players have been selected.
Major issues in the whole team.
Ryan riding pine.
Vuks riding pine and 36.
Redmayne mediocre at best.
Behich has been shocking, and is trapped in Turkey.
Degenek was up until 2 days ago was with out club.
King and Grant, WTF
R. McGowan is in the Kuwaiti league.
In attack there is 4 MC Players, now MC have been good but not that good.

I agree with a lot of your question marks esp Grant and King. King had a good Olympics but an ordinary ALeague season.

Interested in who else you'd choose to replace those players.

I'd stick with Ryan but would definitely look at alternatives for 2/3 keepers.

I've been going for Behich to slip to the bench for a couple of years now. Farrell needs more time but then he's been better than King this season, Jamieson/Galloway? I rate Galloway but he never gets a look in. Gerlach as far as I know hasn't kicked on?

Grant/Karacic??? I don't rate those selections and think there are a few alternatives. Maybe lack of game time has hurt Risdon's chances.

On form and playing time CBs might be Trent & Kye. I think there are a few alternatives to McGowan but they have been hot with injuries - Good/Ruon.

Forwards, our weakest area, a lot of good players in their leagues but not international standard. We have to make do. As a smokey I'd prefer Alou to Duke.
 

Huddo

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Who are your 3 keepers?
Ryan has to be 1, just don't agree the bloke should be riding pine.
2. Izzo, he's at Xanthi as first string, 9 games 7 clean sheets, high possibility of top tier football next year.
3. Birras/Bouzanis, personally I like Birras for the reasons we all see every week. But Bouzanis was with with National league team last year, and is going with them for a possible double jump to league 1 next year, it can be heavily attributed to his keeping.
 

Huddo

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I agree with a lot of your question marks esp Grant and King. King had a good Olympics but an ordinary ALeague season.

Interested in who else you'd choose to replace those players.

I'd stick with Ryan but would definitely look at alternatives for 2/3 keepers.

I've been going for Behich to slip to the bench for a couple of years now. Farrell needs more time but then he's been better than King this season, Jamieson/Galloway? I rate Galloway but he never gets a look in. Gerlach as far as I know hasn't kicked on?

Grant/Karacic??? I don't rate those selections and think there are a few alternatives. Maybe lack of game time has hurt Risdon's chances.

On form and playing time CBs might be Trent & Kye. I think there are a few alternatives to McGowan but they have been hot with injuries - Good/Ruon.

Forwards, our weakest area, a lot of good players in their leagues but not international standard. We have to make do. As a smokey I'd prefer Alou to Duke.
I'd like to add Atkinson, Devlin, A. Grant at Pohong, Genreau. All have had good years.
 

Michael

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Dunno how half these players have been selected.
Major issues in the whole team.
Ryan riding pine.
Vuks riding pine and 36.
Redmayne mediocre at best.
Behich has been shocking, and is trapped in Turkey.
Degenek was up until 2 days ago was with out club.
King and Grant, WTF
R. McGowan is in the Kuwaiti league.
In attack there is 4 MC Players, now MC have been good but not that good.

I get your points and agree with a few of them.
But who would you have over maty? Birra deserves to be part of the squad but not ahead of Ryan. Yeah it sucks he’s riding the pine at club level but he’s easily our best keeper since the golden gen and going forward.

behich does suck, grant is incredibly overrated. Joel King is there because he does have promise and is playing every week, I think Farrell has a red hot chance in a few years if he keeps on going how he is.

cold hard fact is that we don’t have a heap of depth for the national team and probably won’t for a couple years. Mostly it’s the a-leagues fault for firstly the stupid 20-21 age cap for NYL teams. And for so long up until very recently every aleague side just recycled incredibly average players instead of promoting youth and blooding them.
That’s why I love our club so much, we lead the way in Aussie football for youth development.
 

Ironbark

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I had assumed many selections would be influenced by covid and the ability to get players in or out, quaratine etc. and also with an eye to future games - so having a bigger squad to choose from by playing a few less than starters now
 

Huddo

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I get your points and agree with a few of them.
But who would you have over maty? Birra deserves to be part of the squad but not ahead of Ryan. Yeah it sucks he’s riding the pine at club level but he’s easily our best keeper since the golden gen and going forward.

behich does suck, grant is incredibly overrated. Joel King is there because he does have promise and is playing every week, I think Farrell has a red hot chance in a few years if he keeps on going how he is.

cold hard fact is that we don’t have a heap of depth for the national team and probably won’t for a couple years. Mostly it’s the a-leagues fault for firstly the stupid 20-21 age cap for NYL teams. And for so long up until very recently every aleague side just recycled incredibly average players instead of promoting youth and blooding them.
That’s why I love our club so much, we lead the way in Aussie football for youth development.
My issue is typified in one player, Genreau.
He was on the Socceroos fringe, so he goes overseas to expose himself to a higher level, ligue 2, his team is now top, and he could be on his way to ligue 1 very shortly, but Arnie chooses leckie??? Why?
 

scottmac

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I get your points and agree with a few of them.
But who would you have over maty? Birra deserves to be part of the squad but not ahead of Ryan. Yeah it sucks he’s riding the pine at club level but he’s easily our best keeper since the golden gen and going forward.

behich does suck, grant is incredibly overrated. Joel King is there because he does have promise and is playing every week, I think Farrell has a red hot chance in a few years if he keeps on going how he is.

cold hard fact is that we don’t have a heap of depth for the national team and probably won’t for a couple years. Mostly it’s the a-leagues fault for firstly the stupid 20-21 age cap for NYL teams. And for so long up until very recently every aleague side just recycled incredibly average players instead of promoting youth and blooding them.
That’s why I love our club so much, we lead the way in Aussie football for youth development.
In fact you could go so far as to say that the national team is struggling now because of OUR last 5-7yrs.............😲 🤣 (seriously though) Once this group of players go through the Mariners we'll probably see another 6 or 7 into the national team. 🤣
 

Huddo

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In fact you could go so far as to say that the national team is struggling now because of OUR last 5-7yrs.............😲 🤣 (seriously though) Once this group of players go through the Mariners we'll probably see another 6 or 7 into the national team. 🤣
Hall, Rowles and Farrell will all rep.
Nisbit should be given a chance. Garang, Alou, and now Cumdog may get a chance depending how they develop.
 

turbo

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but Arnie chooses leckie??? Why?
genreau and leckie dont play the same spot afaik (unless hes turned into a forward/wing over there). In the attacking mids he is up against Mcgree and Rogic and he isnt better than those two. Nabbout has been outperforming Leckie but still dropped.
 

Michael

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My issue is typified in one player, Genreau.
He was on the Socceroos fringe, so he goes overseas to expose himself to a higher level, ligue 2, his team is now top, and he could be on his way to ligue 1 very shortly, but Arnie chooses leckie??? Why?

different positions but I get your point.
Personally I’d have Genreau over Jeggo
 

Allreet?

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For me the four biggest selection bummers are Grant, Jeggo, Irvine and Behich. Grant had two or three years where he played out of his arse for the NT but those days are over. Not picking Atkinson is criminal - had a blinder this morning against Celtic (although I only saw the second half).

Irvine has never quite nailed his spot and has been one of our worst in recent times; Jeggo's had one decent game and a few forgettable ones. Genreau must be the future there and maybe Metcalfe/Devlin.

Behich is simply cooked. Move on.

Those four are all Arnie favourites and have not deserved their spots in some time.

Move on Arnie... or move aside.
 

Tevor

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For me the four biggest selection bummers are Grant, Jeggo, Irvine and Behich. Grant had two or three years where he played out of his arse for the NT but those days are over. Not picking Atkinson is criminal - had a blinder this morning against Celtic (although I only saw the second half).

Irvine has never quite nailed his spot and has been one of our worst in recent times; Jeggo's had one decent game and a few forgettable ones. Genreau must be the future there and maybe Metcalfe/Devlin.

Behich is simply cooked. Move on.

Those four are all Arnie favourites and have not deserved their spots in some time.

Move on Arnie... or move aside.
Spot on with those assessments. Irvine is a frustrating player for mine.
 

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