How A-League clubs plan to run the A-League.

Discussion in 'Australian Football' started by midfielder, Feb 26, 2019.

  1. midfielder

    midfielder Well-Known Member

    A joint statement has been issued by teh A-League clubs on how they plan to run the A-League.

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  2. pjennings

    pjennings Well-Known Member

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  3. marinermick

    marinermick Well-Known Member

    From a post (Jubal) in the Sydney forum:

    "Short-term pain for long-term gain, the FFA is a bloated bureaucracy, stuffed with overpaid executives who produce f**k all and piss away money on junkets like there’s no tomorrow. They need to learn to live within their means.

    Longer-term, a larger professional league system, ultimately with 30-32 teams across 2 divisions should drive up league income significantly and mitigate the drop in income from A-League TV revenue.

    FFA have failed to grow the domestic game, they cannot be left in charge of it, and owning a club has to stop being a guaranteed money sink."

    I just cut and pasted it as it beautifully articulated, more than I could have, my feelings on this.
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  4. Spacks

    Spacks Active Member

    #15 gives me hope for a CCM Youtube streaming service that you can purchase a subscription to view games/interviews/behind the scenes.
  5. Insertnamehere

    Insertnamehere Well-Known Member

    FFA, well nikou, reckon 15 yrs to PnR. Really to get the HAL to 14-16 teams, establish AL2 and have the clubs bed in then start PnR. 10-15 yrs is reasonable.
    Unless money becomes a non issue all of a sudden.
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  6. Forum Phoenix

    Forum Phoenix Well-Known Member

    Clause 16 should be called the Mariners clause. Well negotiated Mike. :oops:

    Clause 12, the broadcast funds divided in accordance with each clubs perceived contributing value is, I guess to be expected, but also a bit of a worry for small clubs. But that’s ok, see clause 16 again. o_O
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  7. Insertnamehere

    Insertnamehere Well-Known Member

    Yeah #12 is a worry for us.
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  8. turbo

    turbo Well-Known Member

    I didnt notice that one when I skimmed over it initially. 12 should be a concern for everyone outside the biggest few clubs. Is value based on points, attendance, viewers, ACL qualification? Sydney, WSW, and Victory have huge catchments - so does city but that whole launch was botched - that everyone else is going to need to compete with. There's already monetary rewards for having captive markets so I'd hate to see the finances become further lop sided. I can get behind rewarding performance and giving an incentive to push for the top of the table.
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  9. Insertnamehere

    Insertnamehere Well-Known Member

    Absolutely correct. But reward excellence with prize money rather than punishing small market teams for being small market teams. Because they are then going to have be funded via #16, sinking fund.
    Little teams will never be competitive if they're behind the 8 ball from the get go in terms of equal division of league tv and sponsorship resources.
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  10. Capn Gus Bloodbeard

    Capn Gus Bloodbeard Well-Known Member

    Clause 12 -give the richest clubs the most money. FMD. Big clubs having too much say was always a concern with an independent league. That just undermines everything
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  11. nero

    nero Active Member

    Hey Guys, I love this club forever but after the fox deal ends in 2 or 3 years do you think we will still have a league to follow and a team to support?
    If there was a way to short the A League right now I would be throwing money at it.
    How does the A League get out of this bind? I would love to know your thoughts. Am I just being paranoid?
  12. Tevor

    Tevor Well-Known Member

    They have 4 years to come up with a viable streaming solution. Something similar to the J league would be ideal.
  13. nero

    nero Active Member

    I agree. Since Optus took the EPL away from Fox the A League has suffered. The A League needs to make it not to expensive as I feel 25/month for Kayo is steep. Maybe have the option of just viewing your club games or a whole package A League app.
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  14. Forum Phoenix

    Forum Phoenix Well-Known Member

    We'll be ok I think.

    A Foxtel executive told me that Sports are one of the last bastions of programming that can still reliably guarantee ad spend. That's why the competition to secure them has become so competitive.

    It may not be Fox, nor perhaps exclusive, but unless the league really goes down the toilet a reasonably lucrative deal will still be able to be packaged I think.
  15. Big Al

    Big Al Well-Known Member

    The NBL is really hit right now as well and they go head to head so that won’t be helping
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  16. pjennings

    pjennings Well-Known Member

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  17. pjennings

    pjennings Well-Known Member

    New Leagues Working Group (NLWG) Reaches in-Principle Agreement on Recommendations for a New Era for Football in Australia

    • NLWG recognises the immediate need for commercial self-determination for professional Leagues
    • FFA to receive ongoing yields from Leagues for National Teams and grassroots football
    • FFA to hold “Good of the Australian Game” rights and governance representation
    • FFA and APFCA to immediately progress long-form agreements reflecting NLWG recommendations with completion targeted by August
    • The New Leagues Working Group, the body mandated by the FFA Congress in October 2018 to create recommendations for the optimal future of Australia’s Professional Football Leagues has reached an in-principle agreement on recommendations to bring about the evolution and re-invigoration of Australia’s professional domestic competitions – the A-League, W-League and Y-League (the Leagues).
    At the heart of the recommendations is the wish to see Australia’s professional Leagues flourish and achieve their full potential for both the men’s and women’s games and their respective pathways, whilst at the same time ensuring that FFA can optimally deliver against its responsibilities to National Teams, enhance participation among men and women in grassroots football, complimentary pathways and competitions and regulate the game overall in Australia.

    The recommendations are predicated on creating two focused bodies within Australian Football that will compliment and benefit one another. For Australia’s professional Leagues, the NLWG has recognised the immediate need for commercial self-determination in order to stimulate and generate growth and development. The view of the NLWG is that the game as a whole will be best served by such an approach.

    The NLWG recommendations will see Clubs having full and perpetual use of their intellectual property rights with the mandate to oversee the running of the Leagues. As such, Clubs will have unimpeded control of all commercial rights associated with their clubs.

    The recommendations also foresee an appropriate and rigorous governance structure for the Leagues overseen by an independent Chairperson and representatives of each of the 12 Club license holders[1] with two additional representatives from FFA. The NLWG recommendations include a number of “Good of the Australian Game” veto rights to be held by FFA.

    The management of the Leagues will be delivered by a dedicated organisation that in the first instance will be transitioned from FFA and evolved rapidly in the coming season and thereafter with Clubs committing to providing the necessary capital and human resource investments.

    The Leagues’ management organisation will be responsible for the commercialisation and growth of the Leagues’ intellectual property and commercial rights. The organisation’s work will deliver multi-year strategic plans for each of the three Leagues, which will include areas for collaboration with other football stakeholders to grow the game. Australian Professional Football Clubs Association (APFCA) has committed to the finalisation of those plans in the coming weeks as part of the NLWG process.

    In the interests of ensuring the whole of the Australian game benefits from the commercial re-focus of the Professional Leagues, a number of recommendations have been agreed upon, including:

    • There will be an annual contribution from League revenues to FFA including for National Team programs and grassroots initiatives. This contribution will be equal to 1.125 times the amount that will be distributed by the League to any individual Club in the same year. The minimum contribution will be A$4.5m per year in the first instance and indexed linked to CPI thereafter;
    • The Leagues be relieved of the licence payment obligation for the next four seasons in order that investment in the long-term sustainability and growth of the League is maximised. In effect, this recommendation will see FFA re-invest its licence fee in the Australian professional game in order to help ensure longer-term sustainable returns;
    • Once adopted, the recommendations will precipitate the injection by the Clubs of significant capital in the Leagues to enhance the on-field product and bolster their commercial and marketing appeal.
    For the benefit of the National Teams and grassroots programs, the NLWG has identified a number of ongoing funding opportunities that the Leagues will provide, including:

    • FFA will receive 10% yields from the sale of new Club licenses and on the net profits from any sale of existing licenses;
    • FFA will receive a funding allocation annually equivalent to 10% of the value of transfers of Australian domestic players internationally;
    • FFA will retain a 20%, non-diluting and non-voting, ‘carry’ equity share in the League. Importantly, if a portion of the Leagues are ever sold in order to generate investment funds for further growth of the League then 20% of those proceeds would be allocated to FFA for investment in accordance with FFA’s objects
    • Fundamental to the NLWG agreed recommendations is the assertion that FFA should be “no worse off” from the re-organisation. A body of work, already under way, is to be completed by FFA and APFCA as an immediate priority to ensure that there is no adverse cost impact to FFA from the transition to the new organisational structure
    The final agreed recommendations of the NLWG relate to the FFA Congress. It is recommended that the Club’s right to appoint three members of the Women’s Football Council of the FFA Congress be reduced to a right to appoint one member of the council. These two positions will in future be nominated independently as per the FFA Constitution. Moreover, the NLWG recommends that a Congressional review of the make-up of the FFA Congress should commence as soon as practicably possible via a committee mandated to review the impact (if any) of a new Leagues structure on the democratic make-up of the FFA Congress. This committee should provide observations, and where appropriate recommendations and associated resolutions, for consideration by the FFA Congress at the 2019 FFA AGM.

    FFA and the APFCA will now immediately commence the preparation of long-form agreements having regard to the NLWG recommendations and in consultation with NLWG stakeholders. Once complete, the agreements will be presented for consideration and approval by the FFA Board and in turn, the key terms will be put to the FFA Congress for approval.

    FFA Chairman, Chris Nikou: “The recommendations of the NLWG serve to align and unite Australian football’s interests like never before. Clubs would have greater control over the strategic and commercial direction of the Leagues, in turn triggering significant new investment in the quality and marketing of all three Leagues, and FFA would be able to focus its energies and resources on the National Teams, grassroots and the overall strategic direction of the game in concert with all of FFA’s members, including the Women’s Football Council, State and Territory Member Federations and Professional Footballers Australia. Importantly, FFA would retain influence in key areas of the Leagues through the Good of the Game Share. I thank the members of the NLWG that have worked tirelessly over many months to produce these recommendations. Once finalised, the FFA Board will consider the full details of the proposed reorganisation of the Leagues in accordance with their directors’ duties.”

    Women’s Football Council, Ros Moriarty: “The unanimous support from Australian football leadership to a commercial restructure of the W-League, A-League and Y-League is a significant step forward. The FFA Women's Football Council looks forward to seeing the detail of the deal for W-League in the period before it is ratified, in the context of our charter of equality in football for women and girls. We applaud the recognition of the rising value of women's football in reinvigorating the game in Australia and look forward to working closely with the new Leagues management organisation."

    Anter Isaac, Member Federation Council Chair on behalf of all nine state and territory Member Federations: “The Member Federations have appreciated the collaborative way all stakeholders were able to participate in robust discussions towards advancing this significant and necessary evolution in Australian football. Progress has been achieved because of the commitment we all have to Australian football and by embedding the long-term interests of all its participants at the centre of every discussion. The Member Federations appreciate the efforts of all stakeholders in concurring with the firm position we have held that the enduring development and support of grassroots and community football, their pathways to the professional leagues and the competitiveness of our national teams must receive the paramount attention and resources they require for the game to prosper. Our hope is that this outcome validates the deep and collaborative relationship the stakeholders have with one another, as well as demonstrate to the football family the commitment we all have to the good of the Australian Game.”

    APFCA Chair, Paul Lederer: “For the Professional Game in Australia, and indeed the game as a whole in our country, these recommendations are the foundations for a critically needed evolution and vitalisation. Once executed they will create the environment for investment and associated opportunities that we all want to see. The 12 member clubs of APFCA are focused on completing the NLWG process and beginning the transformation process in earnest. Our members are committed to investing in and delivering the elevation of all three of our National Professional Leagues to the status they deserve and the levels that all of the stakeholders of our game rightfully expect. The real work begins now.”

    PFA CEO, John Didulica: “This consensus reached between FFA and the Clubs is an essential step forward. It is now critical that we shift our focus and start designing a footballing future that drives commercial growth, fan engagement and our international competitiveness; through reforming the A-League model, turbo-charging the W-League and ensuring we develop the Y-League into a genuine development pathway. It also remains necessary to embed the rights of the players and the position of the PFA in the new governance framework, and we will be working to reach agreement on these matters as a matter of urgency.”

    [1]Clubs with a W-League license only (i.e. Canberra United) will participate with observer status in matters relating to the W-League.
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  18. RECKY

    RECKY I'm an idiot savant without the pesky savant bit

    So, basically, the FFA can FF big bag of bloated shitheads were a hindrance at best
    Dunno about Fox Sports walking away , maybe if they dropped their prices they might have more subscribers from which to get cash....or maybe , and I’m using my own personal hobby thing here , The A League could get something like the streaming services like WWE network which I pay $13 a month or NJPW World which is $11 ....whichever as long as I get to see games that don’t cost a goddamn fortune
  19. Insertnamehere

    Insertnamehere Well-Known Member

    Thinking about it, essentially that should save the nux because they are now technically part owners of the HAL.
    Edit: Nux have an extra mill in their pocket now.... Sarpreet Singh to Bayern.

    As for a streaming service, I pay $25/m happily for Kayo because I like a lot of different sports. I dunno if I'd pay much for HAL only. Even HAL + Div2 + NPLs.... I don't like football that much. Maybe if CCU got into NPL level. I couldn't go more than $10/m
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  20. RECKY

    RECKY I'm an idiot savant without the pesky savant bit

    Yeah $10 would be a fair rate I reckon

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