Australia's bid for the 2018 or 2022 World Cup

[Jerem]

russia i can understand, Ill probably go to it, but this qatar is bullshi+,
I would at least liked to have lost to the US or JAP where the game is
now building (in a more advanced position than the A-league)
It stinks a lil too much for me

2026 perhaps?

strategy from here, just back the A league as hard as we all can!!
build the game organically.

 

[timmers]

World Cup Voting
2018
Round 1: England 2 votes, Netherlands/Belgium 4 votes, Spain/Portugal 7 votes and Russia 9 votes (as no absolute majority was reached, the candidate with least amount of votes, England, was eliminated)
Round 2: Netherlands/Belgium 2 votes, Spain/Portugal 7 votes and Russia 13 votes (Russia obtained an absolute majority)
2022
Round 1: Australia 1 vote, Japan 3 votes, Korea Republic 4 votes, Qatar 11 votes, USA 3 votes (Australia eliminated)
Round 2: Japan 2 votes, Korea Republic 5 votes, Qatar 10 votes and USA 5 votes (Japan eliminated)
Round 3: Korea Republic 5 votes, Qatar 11 votes, USA 6 votes (Korea Republic eliminated)
Round 4: Qatar 14 votes and USA 8 votes (Qatar obtained an absolute majority)

If FIFA take a step back to look at this, it is so plainly obvious that this is not a fair system. Look at 2018, round 1, England gets two votes and are therefore bundled out, however by round 2, Russia now has 4 more votes than it did in round 1. Clearly, there has been collusion in the process to get England out early. That isn't fair, I'm not English in any way, but I feel just as sorry for them as I do for all of us.

Why is someone allowed to vote for country A in round 1, and then choose country B over country A in round 2? Have they had a last minute change of mind? Ofcourse not! It is incredible that people are allowed to vote this way, even if there aren't bribes, it is still highly unethical.

Did anyone else sense that Sepp seemed slightly uneasy about the fact that Qatar won? I got the impression that he was overjoyed for Russia but worried about Qatar because of the CLEAR evidence that it provides for corruption within FIFA.

We can all be proud of the FFA and the work they have done, obviously Frank Lowy was the driving force, but Ben Buckley and friends put together an incredible bid, and I think he especially deserves some credit after all the crap that A-League supporters have given him. Did it take some focus off the A-league? Of course it did, but the potential benefits far outweighed the potential costs.

 

[dibo]

Multi-round voting is f**ked. Instant runoff by single transferable vote FTW.

 

[serious14]

 

[scottmac]

Just read that Qatar spent an estimated AU$175 Million on their bid.

 

[Jerem]

qatar will also allow israel to compete even though the sharia or what ever dont recognise the israeli state
and will have fan friendly zones to allow the sale of alcohol

 

[midfielder]

A little part of me has died with the Qatar decision... I knew FIFA wa corupt but to allow yourself to be bribed about the WC location ... I guess no one like Qatar ever put up their hand before..

Like play in a sand pit
Hot as f**k
No experience at running anything before
no stadiums
no football history
small country


I watched it live and their was aside from Qatar almost complete slience in the room....

Will find it hard to ever defend FIFA agian...

The rumor Qatar for a long time now is Qatar brought the Afercian vote, and traded that with Asia to Spain to get Russia in get there voters in return ...

Poms knocked oput in round one and us also ... what a f**king joke...

 

[TysonP]

 

[marinersman]

I've been depressed all day. To sit up half the night waiting and then to hear the best part of an hour before the announcement that Middle Eastern and British news agencies were already reporting the (correct) winners severely damages any credibility FIFA had.

If we had lost to any of the other bidders but I wouldn't be as half as bitter as I am now. To award Qatar is a disaster for football worldwide and it's hard to imagine it even being a moderately successful WC. As far as I'm concerned FIFA owe the world an explanation as to how and why the EXCO voted this way. Their untouchable arrogance is a disgrace and they should be made accountable.

Their mottos of fair play and for the good of the game are nothing but a joke. Neither applied to the 2022 decision. Absolutely disgusting. Now the British journos really have a story to go after and I hope a broom is put through FIFA. Every dog has it's day.

You would have to say that bin Hamman is a master politician and must be laughing at all the other bidders.

 

[dibo]

Qatar should simply have been ruled ineligible. I was thinking about the Japanese and US bids in particular just thinking how awesome it would be to go to either. But f**king Doha in June? No thanks.

 

[TysonP]

Japan should cut a deal with all nations, other than Qatar, and install 3D holograms at our stadiums so we can watch all the games "live" without going there and dying.

 

[Jazzie]

A little part of me has died with the Qatar decision... I knew FIFA wa corupt but to allow yourself to be bribed about the WC location ... I guess no one like Qatar ever put up their hand before..

Like play in a sand pit
Hot as f**k
No experience at running anything before
no stadiums
no football history
small country


I watched it live and their was aside from Qatar almost complete slience in the room....

Will find it hard to ever defend FIFA agian...

The rumor Qatar for a long time now is Qatar brought the Afercian vote, and traded that with Asia to Spain to get Russia in get there voters in return ...

Poms knocked oput in round one and us also ... what a f**king joke...

Agree, agree, agree.

TBH, I didn't bother staying up for the announcement. With FIFA kings of sleaze and corruption, Sepp and cronies at the helm would make sure oil and money would win. And they did. Feel very disappointed for Frank and the Aussie bid team. They had a good one. In the end it seemed all a bit pointless. My ESP tells me that Qatar will be a crock.

 

[midfielder]

Don't be surprised if a break way group is formed by UEFA and America (both North & South) along with a new Asian association essentially the existing Asian group without the middle east nations...

As someone posted earlier ... "The Day Football Died"

 

[Jazzie]

Don't be surprised if a break way group is formed by UEFA and America (both North & South) along with a new Asian association essentially the existing Asian group without the middle east nations...

As someone posted earlier ... "The Day Football Died"

That sounds impressive ... is it feasible?

 

[Jazzie]

Just read that Qatar spent an estimated AU$175 Million on their bid.

That's a lot of camel milk! :blink:

 

[midfielder]

This has been hard and did this today so may have missed a few, decided I should at least put the media links after we lost so there is a fuller record …

If I was to pick one as I think the best it was from Simon Hill from Fox.. anyone feel free to add other media outlets articles..


From the smh

Misguided bid proved we're not ready to host the globe

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/football/misguided-bid-proved-were-not-ready-to-host-the-globe-20101204-18kns.html

Let's put the disappointment behind us and focus on getting bigger and stronger, urges Wilkshire
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/football/lets-put-the-disappointment-behind-us-and-focus-on-getting-bigger-and-stronger-urges-wilkshire-20101204-18knu.html


Big chill the last straw for Cup bid team
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/football/big-chill-the-last-straw-for-cup-bid-team-20101204-18ks7.html

Cahill: my anguish
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/football/cahill-my-anguish-20101204-18kop.html

Qatar quickly becomes hottest ticket in sport
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/football/qatar-quickly-becomes-hottest-ticket-in-sport-20101203-18jsh.html

FIFA leaves bidders punchdrunk
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/football/fifa-leaves-bidders-punchdrunk-20101203-18jsi.html

They did us a favour - why we're better off without that Cup
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/football/they-did-us-a-favour--why-were-better-off-without-that-cup-20101203-18jsj.html

Cup vote hides the ultimate betrayal
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/football/cup-vote-hides-the-ultimate-betrayal-20101203-18jsk.html

A humiliating miscalculation that cost us $45 million
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/football/a-humiliating-miscalculation-that-cost-us-45-million-20101203-18jsl.html

Anger greets committee's about-face on Cup bids
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/football/anger-greets-committees-aboutface-on-cup-bids-20101203-18jsm.html

Disaster but not end of the world
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/football/disaster-but-not-end-of-the-world-20101203-18jsf.html

Now where were we? A-League, state comps back on FFA agenda
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/now-where-were-we-aleague-state-comps-back-on-ffa-agenda-20101203-18jsg.html

The boot goes into FIFA over World Cup 'farce
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/football/the-boot-goes-into-fifa-over-world-cup-farce-20101203-18j65.html

From the Roar

Our FIFA problem: We are small and speak English
http://www.theroar.com.au/2010/12/05/australias-fifa-problem/

Skippy is not to blame for our World Cup demise
http://www.theroar.com.au/2010/12/04/skippy-is-not-to-blame-for-our-world-cup-demise/

Little sympathy for Australian football from rival codes
http://www.theroar.com.au/2010/12/04/little-sympathy-for-football-from-rival-codes/

FIFA disgraces game with farcical decision on Qatar
http://www.theroar.com.au/2010/12/03/fifa-disgraces-game-with-farcical-qatar-2022/

Qatar win 2022, but football will still thrive in Australia
http://www.theroar.com.au/2010/12/03/football-will-still-survive-and-thrive-in-australia/

A big thank you to Frank Lowy
http://www.theroar.com.au/2010/12/05/thank-you-mr-lowy/

World Cup bid loss reaction despicable
http://www.theroar.com.au/2010/12/05/world-cup-bid-loss-reaction-despicable/

FIFA, we didn’t want your stupid Cup anyway
http://www.theroar.com.au/2010/12/04/we-didnt-want-your-stupid-cup-anyway/

Where to now for football in Australia?
http://www.theroar.com.au/2010/12/04/where-to-now-for-football-in-australia/

The 2022 Qatar result should not be accepted
http://www.theroar.com.au/2010/12/04/result-not-justified-should-not-be-accepted/

Embarrassing result for the Aussie Cup bid
http://www.theroar.com.au/2010/12/04/embarrassing-result-for-aussies-world-cup-bid/

From SBS

Beckenbauer admits 2022 surprise
http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/2022-world-cup/news/1034771/Beckenbauer-admits-2022-surprise

FIFA cops media backlash
http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/2022-world-cup/news/1034633/FIFA-cops-media-backlash

FFA's plan to win Qatar 2022
http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/2022-world-cup/news/1034587/FFA-s-plan-to-win-Qatar-2022

Lowy pledges to push on
http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/2022-world-cup/news/1034557/Lowy-pledges-to-push-on

Grondona denies pay-off report
http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/2022-world-cup/news/1034831/Grondona-denies-pay-off-report

Wenger calls for FIFA reform
http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/2018-world-cup/news/1034711/wenger-calls-for-fifa-reform

Decisions from the twilight zone
http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/jesse-fink/blog/1034501/Decisions-from-the-twilight-zone

From Fox

Mark Bosnich says Australia must lose with dignity and deal with the disappointment of World Cup bid
http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/world-cup-bid/mark-bosnich-says-australia-must-lose-with-dignity-and-deal-with-the-disappointment-of-the-world-cup-announcement/story-fn3g9e47-1225965535291

Fox Sports commentator Simon Hill reflects on the FIFA World Cup bid defeat and asks what went so wrong
http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/world-cup-bid/fox-sports-commentator-simon-hill-reflects-on-the-fifa-world-cup-bid-defeat-and-asks-what-went-so-wrong/story-fn3g9e47-1225965608254

Julio Grondona denies Argentine Football Association received payment from Qatar World Cup bid team
http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/world-cup-bid/julio-grondona-denies-argentine-football-association-received-payment-from-qatar-world-cup-bid-team/story-fn3g9e47-1225965819923

Australia's 2022 World Cup consultant Peter Hargitay refuses to take responsibility for the bidding debacle.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/world-cup-bid/australias-2022-world-cup-consultant-peter-hargitay-refuses-to-take-responsibility-for-the-bidding-debacle/story-fn3g9e47-1225965817339

English Premier League managers join the chorus questioning FIFA's World Cup bidding process
http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/world-cup-bid/english-premier-league-managers-join-the-chorus-questioning-fifas-world-cup-20182022-bidding-process/story-fn3g9e47-1225965519030

Fox Sports' Robbie Slater says Australia's failed 2022 FIFA World Cup run could be final foray into bidding world
http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/world-cup-bid/fox-sports-robbie-slater-says-australias-failed-2022-run-could-be-final-foray-into-bidding-world/story-fn3g9e47-1225964938716

Former Socceroos boss Guus Hiddink says Australia deserved to host the 2022 World Cup
http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/world-cup-bid/former-socceroos-boss-guus-hiddink-says-australia-deserved-to-host-the-2022-world-cup/story-fn3g9e47-1225965545865

From 442

FFA's Positives From Bid Process

http://au.fourfourtwo.com/News/190411,ffas-positives-from-bid-process.aspx

 

[grendel]

This has been hard and did this today so may have missed a few, decided I should at least put the media links after we lost so there is a fuller record …

If I was to pick one as I think the best it was from Simon Hill from Fox.. anyone feel free to add other media outlets articles..


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Good effort! Well done...

 

[elevated position]

From the lack of(FFA) support the A League appeared to receive while they bid was in place it's failure now opens the opportunity to wholly promote the League in a way the other codes will wish FFA were still distracted.

 

[Wee-mac]

Just saw an interview on the world game with the bid strategist for our bid and he made many good points. I don't blame the FFA so much anymore.

 

[Forum Phoenix]

Yeah I watched that.

I don't blame the FFA at all and Frank Lowy should be hailed for his incredible efforts on Australia's behalf.
Yes the presentation could have been better I think - but it was irrelevant.

So many reasons why this is so wrong on a football and event level - but add in the human rights level and words just fail me.

I'd call it a disgrace. But that falls well short.

Very sad affair. That has, and I can't believe it, actually managed to soil and lessen my views of the amazing event that is the world cup. f**k you so very much FIFA.