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Wombat

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Rainman.....why did you rate that post Dumb???

Did you think Moss what a good coach?.....good bloke......nice sun tan????.....came from Manly?

Can you help me understand or do you just like clicking on icons?
 

Wombat

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Want me to tell you why I thought it was funny?

:innocent:

If you like FP.
I was interested to know which part of the post was Dumb......lots of my posts are somewhat foolish ramblings.....but I didn't think that was. I'm not a fan of Moss at all.
 
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pjennings

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Not sure where to put this but a great write up about the IFS in the Scum Herald..


The International Football School on the Central Coast is kicking goals
Damon Cronshaw
12 Aug 2016, 7:30 p.m.
James Quigley is 16 years old and loves school.

Sounds unusual, doesn’t it? That is, a teenage boy being passionate about school.

Something is happening at the International Football School at Kariong on the Central Coast.

A new way of approaching education has taken hold. Could this be an answer to teenage apathy and frustration?

James, of Eleebana, is among about 30 Hunter students who attend the school, which has been running for 3 ½ years.

Students spend about two hours a day playing soccer or tennis and four hours of regular schoolwork.

“It felt like a dream when I heard we could train for two hours a day at school,” James says.

The school uses a technique known as “project-based learning”.

James says this helps with comprehension.

“I love the school aspect of it – it’s more hands on,” he says.

The school takes a different approach to students sitting at desks and taking notes, while teachers talk.

“The way they teach, the projects you get – it makes more sense than writing lines and that kind of stuff,” James says.

“It helps get into your brain more and it’s more fun and enjoyable.”

James’s father Richard Quigley says it is “a miracle to have a 16-year-old boy who wants to go to school every day”.

“We’re over the moon, to be honest with you,” Quigley says.

“He’s happy.”

Quigley says his son “seems to have a broad knowledge and a deeper interest because things are taught slightly differently”.

“Everything’s intrinsically motivated. If you don’t do your work, you don’t train,” he says.

“They’re more likely to want to try harder because they’ve got a reason to do it.”

Quigley makes the point that many people have “gone through high school” without being engaged at all.

His son wants to be a professional footballer, but is also “looking at plans b and c, as well as trying to achieve plan a”.

“It’s not all about football, although it’s called the International Football School. The preconception is it’s about football, but that’s so far from the truth,” he says.

Quigley says the school is “genuinely working extremely hard not to disadvantage the kids in any way”.

Through that process, they are creating a better model than the old-fashioned way that remains in most high schools.

“This project-based learning model engages the child at a different level, at a problem-solving level.”

The school’s chief executive Paul Chapman says education research is showing project-based learning to be “the best way to engage kids”.

“That’s the focus of our approach at the moment,” Chapman says.

“That’s not to say we’ll necessarily be like that forever.”

The school will continue to reflect on what’s happening in the classroom. If it can do things better, it will change and adapt.

“For me, it’s really about creating an environment where staff and students can be the best they can be,” he says.

The school’s enrolment officer Damien Brown says the school adheres to Board of Studies requirements, while teaching in “an exciting way”.

“You’ve got kids wanting to do their work because they’re excited to learn about something they’re passionate about,” says Brown, a former professional soccer player with Central Coast Mariners and Newcastle United.

Academic work can be linked to football or tennis, under the project-based learning model.

“They can use their imagination and dreams of one day playing for the Socceroos, Man Utd or Barcelona,” he says.

This, for example, can involve being marked on English for a letter to the CEO of Barcelona.

“With the older ones in high school, it’s not just a pretend letter. They might have to send a letter to a company.”

One project involved students building toys from scratch for a charity and delivering them to children at a hospital.

“They had to write letters to proper authorities to get approvals to do that,” Brown says.

Chapman’s efforts in founding the school have earned him the label of “visionary” in some circles.

His experience working at other schools inspired him to follow a different path.

“Those schools didn’t really cater for kids who wanted to pursue an area of specialisation,” he says.

“The initial philosophy was about creating time during the day to allow kids to follow their passion.”

Chapman is a devotee of Stephen Covey’s book, The Seven Habits of Highly Effective People.

“His philosophy is around getting away from the victim mentality and being proactive,” Chapman says.

“That’s one of my personal beliefs.

“It does my head in when I see kids, adults, parents and staff blaming other people for whatever decision they’ve made.”

He believes individuals are always responsible for their own actions “and the outcomes of those actions, be it positive or negative”.

“I challenge staff and students around that all the time,” he says.

Brown, now 41, was the first player to sign for the Central Coast Mariners for the inaugural season of the A-League in 2005.

He helped establish the link between the school and the football club.

In January, Trent Buhagiar became the first of the school’s students to sign for the Mariners. Brown presented Buhagiar with his first jersey.

It was a watershed moment for the school – a sweet reward for the hard work that went into its creation.

Central Coast Mariners CEO Shaun Mielekamp spoke at the time about the significance of Buhagiar’s signing.

“This is one of the proudest signings we have made since my time at the club,” Mielekamp said.

“This is a testament to the school, which played a crucial role in Trent’s rapid development towards the Hyundai A-League.”

The school’s football coaches include a host of former Mariners. There’s Patrick Zwaanswijk, Andre Gumprecht, Daniel McBreen, Adam Kwasnik and Brad Porter. Newcastle’s Joey Peters, who played 110 internationals with the Matildas, is also a coach at the school.

Brown, a qualified teacher, says many parents are looking for something different for their children’s schooling.

Parents want their children to “come home from school with stories that they’ve had a great day”.

“They know their child has the potential to be happier. In most situations we can provide that,” he says.

Quigley believes the school’s students have a level of maturity that is “different to a lot of high school teenagers”.

“These kids don’t feel the need to rebel because it’s more of a partnership than a dictatorship,” he says.

“It’s a way forward, especially for boys and students who like hands-on work.”

The school sought to move away from outdated notions of education, oppressive rules and institutionalised discipline. Rigid, stern and hardline approaches had been discarded to the dustbin of history.

“That’s good because they’re treating the students like human beings,” Quigley says.

Brown says students need to show they are “making good decisions in their behaviour and attitude towards schoolwork and show that they’re focused”.

“You still have to be respectful,” he says.

But he says the school does things differently.

“If your uniform isn’t tucked in, you can’t get in trouble – we don’t have a uniform here,” he says.

Students aren’t “shut down in negative ways”, but encouraged to take responsibility.

“We have no fences here. We say to the kids, ‘there’s the boundaries, if you go outside those boundaries you’ll get in trouble’. We trust them to make the right decision and most of the time they do.”

Chapman says the school has a fundamental way of thinking about student behaviour.

“It comes down to whether the child wants to be there,” he says.

“Kids and people tend to break rules when their needs aren’t being met.”

If a student is misbehaving, the challenge is “working out what’s going on and what’s missing for them”.

The school includes about 300 soccer players, 50 tennis players and a dozen or so kindergarten pupils who do multi-sports. Years 1 and 2 are expected to be added to the school next year, fulfilling the aim of having grades from kindergarten to year 12.

Fees to attend the non-profit school are $5600 to $6800 a year.

The school is proud to have three full-time chefs. Healthy lunches are prepared for students each day.

“It makes a big difference to families – we see massive results in the classroom,” Chapman says.

“We don’t have issues with kids going to class not being able to think properly because they haven’t eaten properly.”

There’s no vending machines and the kids are encouraged to drink lots of water.

It almost sounds like utopia. Chapman admits he’s proud of what’s been achieved, but believes much more progress is possible.

“We’ll continue to strive to improve.”

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4...o-hours-a-day-of-sport-photos/?cs=305#slide=1
 
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Forum Phoenix

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If you like FP.
I was interested to know which part of the post was Dumb......lots of my posts are somewhat foolish ramblings.....but I didn't think that was. I'm not a fan of Moss at all.

It's a bit like that great post by Fishs'dad the other day about liking the diversity of opinion... I've come to feel the same way about the different characters of our posters in general. In short... I've actually acquired a taste for a good ol Wombat rant. Followed by a main course of Dibo dress down and rebuttal, then crowned by a Syd's signature 'dumb emoticon'. It just cracks me up. And it's comforting, like getting up to see your paper on the lawn... and yeah for mine, Moss deserves any fan ire he gets.
 

Gratis

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Ha I was just looking up something Mariners related and came across this article from about 7 years ago...

Central Coast Mariners set for financial boon with Russian consortium showing interest in takeover
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Saviour ... Will a Russian consortium steer the Mariners to happy days? Source: Robert Mckell / News Limited

Financially embattled Central Coast Mariners could be the latest club to surrender to overseas ownership, with a Russian consortium expected to agree to a deal as early as Friday.

Sutton itching for a start

The Australian understands representatives of the group, which has ties to well known Russian club Spartak Moscow, are due in Sydney to go through the final details of a takeover, which will provide a much-needed lifeline to the ailing Mariners.

It is understood Football Federation Australia has met several times with the Russians, most recently last week, and the head body remains cautiously optimistic the deal will finally get over the line after five months of high-powered talks, due diligence and negotiations.

"The Russians appear keen," an FFA insider said. "The meetings have been quite positive. There is genuine hope of a good outcome sooner rather than later."

If the takeover is successful, the Mariners will become the second A-League club to be fully owned by an overseas consortium. Brisbane Roar this week completed the final paperwork for the Indonesians, the Bakrie Group, to take 100 per cent ownership of the Queenslanders.

The Mariners deal can not come quickly enough for the runaway competition leaders.

Despite the best intentions of its owners, which include chairman and property developer Peter Turnbull, Central Coast has struggled to keep its head above water this season.

The club reportedly owes 12 months in superannuation payments, owes the taxation department more than $1 million and has been late with player payments. In a situation closely monitored by Professional Footballers Australia, four players agreed to play against Sydney FC in a match last November despite being eight days behind in their wages.

Since then, it has been a battle to come up with the wages for the squad, coaches and management. The club even sold striker Matt Simon for $170,000 to Korean club Chunnam Dragons late last year, with the money helping to pay the players.

Still, it is understood coach Graham Arnold is owed a considerable amount of money - a situation which is likely to see him accept a huge offer to sign with Sydney FC for next season.

Arnold has firmed to replace Vitezslav Lavicka, who announced last week he was stepping down from the Sky Blues' job at the end of the season.

Given the circumstances, Arnold has performed a minor miracle to have the Mariners at the top of the table and heading for their first minor premiership.

The former Socceroos coach, more than anyone, has been the glue that has kept the players together and focused on the season. Any other group bar the Mariners would have already self-destructed under the weight of the problems the club has been forced to endure.

Apart from the uncertainty surrounding the future of the club, Arnold and the players have also had to cope with inadequate training facilities, as well as a lack of funds to pay for even the most basic of requirements such as requests to help with player bonding sessions.

Best Player in A-League
Who is the best player currently in the A-League?
Thomas Broich

34.55%

Harry Kewell

16.23%

Paul Ifill

18.04%

Liam Miller

11.04%

Patrick Zwaanswijk

9.53%

A.N Other

10.61%

Whether the likely influx of Russian money will be enough to keep Arnold, who has a strong bond with his players, remains to be seen.

Sydney's 5-2 loss to Newcastle Jets last Sunday has failed to dim the loyalty of the fans, with the club reporting its third-highest day of ticket sales on Tuesday for Saturday's match against in-form Perth Glory at the Sydney Football Stadium.
 

Rowdy

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Glory’s Reddy aims to play into his forties:
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Liam Reddy is convinced that at 35 he is about to enter his best years as a goalkeeper and can still be playing in the A-League as he pushes 40.

Reddy’s conviction comes from a combination of how well he feels physically, how sharp he feels at training and the fact several other veteran ‘keepers are still playing regularly in the competition.

Melbourne City’s Thomas Sorensen is 40 and Eugene Galekovic, the captain of reigning premiers and champions Adelaide United, is 35.

Michael Theo, 35, has had injury problems in the last two seasons, but he is right back in the battle with Jamie Young for top spot at Brisbane Roar.

Also, Ivan Necevski, at 36, has the inside running for top spot at Central Coast Mariners and Ante Covic was still playing in the A-League last season at 40, for Perth.

It was Glory’s decision to release Covic at the end of the season that opened up the spot Reddy has taken.

Reddy has always been prepared to move cities to accept career opportunities – Perth are his seventh A-League club.

He told The World Game that although he has only signed with Glory for one season, his ambition is to make that the first season of many there.

“I’m only 35 and I believe I’ve got another good four or five years left in me.” he said.

“That would be the ideal scenario for me, if it worked out that way. Kenny (Lowe, the Perth coach) has built a very good squad and it would be great to be a part of it long-term.

“Sorensen and Covic were still playing at 39 and 40 last season and myself and Eugene and Theo are all the same age. We’ve all looked after our bodies off the park, so why not play for a few more years?

“I think physically I’m in the best shape I’ve ever been in... I’ve been training well and I hope to have my best couple of years ahead of me. I’ve got every reason to believe it will turn out that way.”

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Reddy is backing himself to stretch his stay. Rather than leave his family behind on the east coast and adopt a wait-and-see brief for this season, he is bringing his wife, Christie, and their three boys – Marley, nine, Hendrix, seven, and Ziggy, three in November, over to Perth soon.

“They’re still at Terrigal for the moment.” he said.

“Two of the boys are at school, so they’re just going to finish the third term and then everyone will move over at the end of September and the kids will start school here.

Reddy was in goal when Perth went to Brisbane and beat Roar 2-0 in an FFA Cup round of 32 game on August 10th.

Perth will host Sydney FC in a round of 16 game at Dorrien Gardens on Tuesday, but first will play a practice match against the Iraq national team on Thursday. Iraq are preparing for their upcoming World Cup qualifier against Australia.

Getting a game like that is a coup for Glory, which has had a surge in membership as fans look forward with optimism to the season kicking off in October. There are now 5500 members, up 40 per cent on the same time last year.

“I think the good thing about Perth this year is that we’ve got a really strong squad and the boys are pushing each other in all positions.” Reddy said.

“I think we can definitely compete for some silverware this year.

“I haven’t been told anything in terms of whether I’m number one or number two ‘keeper or whatever and I don’t think Nick has either and we’re just pushing each other.

“Hopefully I get the nod in the FFA Cup game and when we play Central Coast in the first round of the A-League. That’s my focus. I’ve got to do what I can to play every single minute in every single game this year.”

 

Rowdy

Well-Known Member
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Newcastle Jets CEO and ex-Central Coast Mariners Premier’s Plate winning coach Lawrie McKinna says the passion of the A-League’s longest standing derby needs to be reignited.

Both the Mariners and the Jets have struggled in recent times with both teams taking turns on the bottom of the A-League ladder after winning the wooden spoon.

After a decade as a club coach, administrator and mayor, McKinna swapped the Central Coast for the Hunter when he became the Jets CEO.

The passion off the field has already been sparked when Central Coast CEO Shaun Mielekamp was upset at McKinna regarding comments he made in a FourFourTwo story on player and coaching changes at his former club.

However, it’s off the field that McKinna feels the hunger and desire of both teams needs to be expressed and that’s in the F3 derby.

“I don’t think there has been a tackle made in the derby in the last four or five years,” he told FourFourTwo.

“We need to get back to that passion between the two teams and it’s important for the A-League that the regional teams like Central Coast and Newcastle are actually challenging and start being in the mix again because over the last few years we haven’t.

“I know we’re the smallest clubs but you don’t always want the smallest clubs at the bottom of the league.

"Leicester proved that and Wales proved it at the European Championships. It’s important that we re-engage the fans, get the passion on the field and off the field for the derby games.

“Me moving to Newcastle might help make that happen.”

After finishing bottom of the A-League ladder last season the Mariners woes continued when coach Tony Walmsley was sacked after being knocked out of the FFA Cup by Victorian NPL Club Green Gully.

Since then Melbourne Knights coach Andrew Marth called the club an embarrassment, but even as a rival CEO, McKinna wants the club he coached to two Grand Final appearances get back to its former glory.

“Over the last few years I’ve not agreed with what the Mariners have done,” he said. “But that’s their choice they run their club.

"Even though I was a successful coach and a big part of the community they have to do what they think is right and sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn’t.

“I want to see the Mariners being successful on the field because it’s good for the A-league, it’s good for the Newcastle/Mariners Derby when both the teams are competitive.

“The two clubs have done a deal where members from each club will get in free for the derby games which is fantastic, it’s the first time that has been done.

“We’ve got roughly 10,000 members, if they want to go to the Central Coast they get in for nothing. So it’s like extra games on their membership and I think it’s a great initiative done by the club and FFA before I came in.”
 

Timmah

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I feel as though Lawrie has talked more about CCM since signing on as the Jets, than about his own club? :tinfoilhat:
 

FFC Mariner

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By all accounts the scum are a complete shambles on and off the field.

I'd be talking about something else too lol
 

Rowdy

Well-Known Member
Spotted this in todays CC Express,

Lawrie tells story:
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Lawrie McKinna during his days as a coach with the Mariners.

Ex-Mariners coach launches autobiography.
Emma Herd.

Lawrie McKinna details how close he came to leaving the Central Coast Mariners after their inaugural season in his autobiography, Political Football, launched at the Avoca Beach Surf Life Saving Club last night.

McKinna, the former Gosford Mayor and now Newcastle Jets chief exucutive, went into detail about how he'd been chasing a contract from the A-League club in the first 12 months of his tenure and how John Singleton proved decisive in keeping him there.

"On that night when Singo called me I was 50/50," McKinna reflected.

"The Sydney offer was there but when someone like Singo calls to say I had to stay on the Coast, I decided before he got there."

During his 5 years at the club he was popular in the community.

Despite working for the Central Coast's fierce rivals these days, he had no qualms about holding his book launch at Avoca Beach, with former Mariners assistant Alex Tobin, Mariners assistant John Hutchinson and Mariners captain Nick Montgomery all accepting invitations to speak at the launch.

"The Central Coast is a big part of my life," McKinna said.

"From coaching the Mariners to being the mayor, my home is the Central Coast."

McKinna put together the book with Avoca Beach's Adrian Deans.

Mr Deans said working with McKinna was "funny".

"Lawrie is so open and not to afraid to laugh at himself, so it’s been a real easy relationship, " he said.

Mr Deans was hopeful the book could open up doors for him, with another high profile identity having already approached him about working on a story.

Political Football - Lawrie McKinna's Dangerous Truth will be available in book stores from mid-September.
 

Gratis

Well-Known Member
Mariners cannot afford Okon to fail

By Sebastian Hassett
30 AUG 2016 - 6:09
Once one of the A-League powerhouses, the importance of returning the Mariners to respectability has never been as essential as it right now.

Sometimes a cliché really does say it best: out of the frying pan and into the fire. That’s the lot of Paul Okon after leaving the national under-20 job to manage Central Coast Mariners.
It may well be the most critical appointment in club history. If this goes wrong and the Mariners don’t improve, there’s no guarantee of a sixth permanent manager.

That may seem dramatic - and an inordinate weight for Okon to bear - but the FFA is hungry to add clubs in the major cities. Yet the prospect of future success - and the gravitas that brings - can bulletproof their survival.
Down to business then. Okon’s immediate task is to restore dignity to a club that has been totally stripped of it.

It is not about implementing a grandiose playing philosophy - that can come later. As of right now, barely a month from the season proper, it is about getting the core fundamentals right.
There’s no time to overhaul the squad. But there is time for a change in mentality; a change in how the players approach season ahead. The highest standards should exist from day one.

The first point of business has already been made. And the decision to cut John Hutchinson may be indicative of Okon’s approach.
Only Archie Thompson rivals 'Hutch' for everlasting symbolism with an A-League team. He is the Mariners, but when Okon was handed the reins, the new boss cleared the decks. It can only be espoused that Hutchinson’s influence around the club was seen to be too great.
Unthinkable as it is to see the ex-Maltese international gone, he owes it to himself to 'upskill' - embark on a study tour in Europe, work with juniors, take on a state league club, find a mentor. He’s still got a big future in football. Maybe even at the Mariners. One day, anyway.

Okon needs to think carefully about the team around him. He’d love to have called in his great mate Aurelio Vidmar, but he’s just joined Bangkok Glass. There’s not loads of obvious talent floating around. Robbie Stanton, having done superb things with Sydney FC's NPL team, is an exciting prospect.
But if I was Okon, I’d look to Italy - where he spent five years - and find an assistant who could help tidy up the club’s defence and instill some tactical nous. Even on a limited budget, it would be an investment, not a cost.

Once a club with an unrivalled culture, it’s frightening to see how quickly that could all unravel. It should never have been allowed to happen - we’re talking about a club that made four grand finals in eight years.

Fingers will be pointed everywhere. At the chairman, Mike Charlesworth, and his right-hand man, Peter Storrie. At the ex-coaches, Tony Walmsley and Phil Moss. At the players.
But it doesn’t really matter who is to blame - what does matter is that it’s fixed. That’s the responsibility of Okon and Charlesworth. They’ll both be aware of that.

Curiously, in all my time covering football, I’ve got significantly more feedback about the Mariners than any other club.
The local community are intensely proud of the club and take any criticism to heart. I love that they care so much - it shows the Mariners are an institution that should be cared for and protected.
But even the fans’ patience has been tested throughout this process. Just have a look around online. They’ve been hurt. Once you burn the local community, winning back their trust is difficult.

That’s the challenge that confronts the club right now. It's a huge one, but so be it. We've reached high noon on Brisbane Water.

http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/blog/2016/08/30/mariners-cannot-afford-okon-fail
 

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