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Ancient Mariner

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‘We got it wrong’: Refs boss’ admission after controversial calls cost Mariners​

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer...sial-calls-cost-mariners-20210220-p5749p.html
It is all very well to say the got it wrong. The on field referee can make mistakes.
But what I cannot understand is how an idiot with a screen and countless replays cannot see what Delovski could see.
Delovski states they need more training.
Are referees less trained than all the commentators?
Are they less trained than everyone else who watched the game?
How do you provide more training in what is plainly obvious?
Is Ams that simple?

"Now try to remember Kurt, 2 + 2 = 4. Practise this all week and we will ask you again to see if you can get it right next time."
 

Capn Gus Bloodbeard

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The only thing that could actually achieve anyone feeling better about this would be to overturn the red given to Rowles.

The result isn't going to change, the points are gone, they are going to do a rematch. BUT they could do that as a gesture of, yep he f**ked it, have this player back
In all fairness, Rowles is still responsible for his actions regardless of the referee's actions.
You could have the result overturned and his red would still stand.
Love to know what he said, only rumours around though
 

Huddo

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In all fairness, Rowles is still responsible for his actions regardless of the referee's actions.
You could have the result overturned and his red would still stand.
Love to know what he said, only rumours around though

I can confirm from an extremely reliable source rowles said to the ref “you're a f**king disgrace”

It's no rumour, I don't want to reference the source but this is what was said.
 

Forum Phoenix

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We had them on the ropes twice and they were gifted penalties back in to the game. The natural progression of turning the screws was taken away last night by horrible unwarranted decisions.
Absolutely, they came out strong giving their all, and were launching at us for about ten minutes, but our defence was also excellent throughout even though they dominated possession and territory, and I was going well they won't be able to keep this up. Then we start to get some control, then we score, then we start to run over the top of them. Their bench is losing it's shit and we clearly look a class above. Then Mauk (what an absolute spineless douche of a player he is) dives... Worse case should have been we win 2 nil. But they would have been even easier to beat without the referees help. Probably would have given them a hiding. They looked like a team ready to break to me. But then their goal brings in the crowd, shuts up the bench and galvanised them.

Even with their confidence up and our massive levels of frustration, you could see we were a much better side. And that's what there is to be excited about. f**k the incompetence and the result. It's clear to see, the Mariners are the best team in the comp right now. And I don't reckon that's changing any time soon, regardless of what the ladder does.
 
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Tim

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Here’a a thought, how do the the betting agencies deal with a result like this? I don’t gamble but if I lost money last night on CCM I’d be having a quiet word with the relevant betting agency when the A-League have agreed 2 serious errors were made, which clearly changed the result of the game...
 
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Forum Phoenix

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There is no doubt in my mind we should have beaten a very average Adelaide side irrespective of the ridiculous penalties. However, those 3 decisions were simply horrendous! Kurt Ams has had an issue with CCM for some time and truly should not be allowed to officiate a CCM game again unless he can clearly and precisely explain why those calls were made and how they are, in any way, justifiable in light of the VAR’s role and his obvious influence over the referee. As for the celebrations re Juric scoring a hat trick, I’m sorry but 3 pens is hardly a great day out for a striker (other than on the scoresheet and the skill it takes to convert from the spot).

I hold no malice towards Adelaide because they simply took advantage of the situation. After the first pen, Maulk realised he could milk another and did so with Nesbit. While I dislike gamesmanship, I do not blame a player taking advantage of the circumstances, particularly when his side is in a hole. The fault clearly lies primarily with Kurt Ams and he should be stood down at the very least for incompetence and more likely, something far more sinister...
Mauk is a proven, repeat diver. Diving is cheating. I don't like cheating or diving. So I don't like Mauk.

Bottom line, he conned the referee with his cheating, and got away with it because the referees are utterly incompetent and or unprincipled cheats. Don't blame AU. But last night Mauk was at the heart of bringing the game into disrepute. There's a reason why diving is a serious yellow card offence, and is so looked down on, and why a player can be referred to the match review panel. It destroys games, shows disrespect to your fellow professionals and makes a mockery of our code.

Mauk doesn't get a pass just because the referees on the night couldn't see through his cheating. He shares the blame. If he plays fair, none of this embarrassing blight on Australian football happens.
 

Ancient Mariner

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Absolutely, they came out strong giving their all, and were launching at us for about ten minutes, but our defence was also excellent throughout even though they dominated possession and territory, and I was going well they won't be able to keep this up. Then we start to get some control, then we score, then we start to run over the top of them. Their bench is losing it's shit and we clearly look a class above. Then Mauk (what an absolute spineless douche of a player he is) dives... Worse case should have been we win 2 nil. But they would have been even easier to beat without the referees help. Probably would have given them a hiding. They looked like a team ready to break to me. But then their goal brings in the crowd, shuts up the bench and galvanised them.

Even with their confidence up and our massive levels of frustration, you could see we were much better side. And that's what there is to be excited about. f**k the incompetence and the result. It's clear to see, the Mariners are the best team in the comp right now. And I don't reckon that's changing any time soon, regardless of what the ladder does.
This in spades.

I said to Mrs AM at half time that their defence was completely porous and that anytime we get near their box we should score and Kuol will get a bagful.

I agree that we are the best side in the A-League and injuries, red cards, etc allowing, I see no reason why we should not be very close to the top of the ladder at the end.
 

Tevor

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Mauk is a proven, repeat diver. Diving is cheating. I don't like cheating or diving. So I don't like Mauk.

Bottom line, he conned the referee with his cheating, and got away with it because the referees are utterly incompetent and or unprincipled cheats. Don't blame AU. But last night Mauk was at the heart of bringing the game into disrepute. There's a reason why diving is a serious yellow card offence, and is so looked down on, and why a player can be referred to the match review panel. It destroys games, shows disrespect to your fellow professionals and makes a mockery of our code.

Mauk doesn't get a pass just because the referees on the night couldn't see through his cheating. He shares the blame. If he plays fair, none of this embarrassing blight on Australian football happens.
Totally agree and he is deserving of the social media backlash he is receiving. The Refs caused this so why don’t you thank them Mauk for giving you a terrible reputation. Soo many bad feelings out if this game and all because of two corrupt Refs. We didn’t deserve it, AU don’t deserve it nor does Mauk and all they say is sorry we got it wrong. Not good enough.
 

Forum Phoenix

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It is all very well to say the got it wrong. The on field referee can make mistakes.
But what I cannot understand is how an idiot with a screen and countless replays cannot see what Delovski could see.
Delovski states they need more training.
Are referees less trained than all the commentators?
Are they less trained than everyone else who watched the game?
How do you provide more training in what is plainly obvious?
Is Ams that simple?

"Now try to remember Kurt, 2 + 2 = 4. Practise this all week and we will ask you again to see if you can get it right next time."

What's to train? Honestly, how can you be at the level to be in charge of running a professional football game yet lack the "training" to tell what every half blind football punter in the world can tell you. They're either absurdly incompetent or malicious cheats. Either one should disbar them from officiating.

And the thing is with VAR. it should actually bloody work. I know it doesn't. But it bloody well should.

In a game where human error will undoubtedly occur because you may be unsighted or something can happens too fast to clearly perceive – slow motion video replay should be a very powerful tool in helping make sure you get shit right. The only way it's working here, is to prove the incredible level of incompetence of our referees. as you say, even with slow motion replay, they can't f**king get it right.

Embarrassing beyond belief, and even more frustrating for everyone when they are on the other side of it.
 
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