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Tassiemariner

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This outrage over this banner is laughable. It's a marketing stunt. Fox even had the graphic ready to go advertising the F3 derby!

Both sides are clearly disappointed with the lack of marketing from the new Working Group, and thought they'd do something about it. Yeah Lawrie went a tad too far, but it wasn't like he burnt an effigy of Shaun or anything. Maybe this might inspire a cheeky boost in marketing from Charlesworth/a director, and something will be done by us for the next F3 derby. It's something that will make noise outside of us die-hards and #sokkahtwitter, and didn't involve signing bolt which I'm all for. .

Also, if Lawrie is such a Scummer who promotes such visceral hatred among supporters, why was he able to mingle at the YA pre-match event?

Take a breath people
 

Rowdy

Well-Known Member
Anybody who is s member should consider emailing the club to formalize their displeasure at this cockup
There's NO need, Shaun & other staff members read these boards regularly.

I'm sure the sentiments expressed on here regarding #Lawrie''sBanner-gate, will have been duly noted
 

FFC Mariner

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This outrage over this banner is laughable. It's a marketing stunt. Fox even had the graphic ready to go advertising the F3 derby!

Both sides are clearly disappointed with the lack of marketing from the new Working Group, and thought they'd do something about it. Yeah Lawrie went a tad too far, but it wasn't like he burnt an effigy of Shaun or anything. Maybe this might inspire a cheeky boost in marketing from Charlesworth/a director, and something will be done by us for the next F3 derby. It's something that will make noise outside of us die-hards and #sokkahtwitter, and didn't involve signing bolt which I'm all for. .

Also, if Lawrie is such a Scummer who promotes such visceral hatred among supporters, why was he able to mingle at the YA pre-match event?

Take a breath people
No one from the office turned up as far as I know.
 

Josho Howe

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Everything l wanted to say about last night has been said really but my two cents

The game - I thought we were excellent for the first 70 minutes of the game. The energy and desire to win the ball high up the pitch and give Adelaide no time to settle in possession was refreshing to see as we've not done that for a long time. Defence showed an improvement and we looked solid till the end of the game. Adelaide finished over the top of us and we allowed them back in the game due to Simon's idiotic red card.

Bay Rd - Bay Rd was a big success for me. Great turnout and thanks to everyone who came. We'll hopefully continue on with Bay Rd going into this season. The beers were good and the vibes were too. Now we know why Lawrie was here for the game and was free to come down for a quick chat huh.

The Banner - It backfired on us and made us look silly imo. I don't know why we allowed that. I think that the idea was fine, a way to promote the derby but what actually happened is that Lawrie put one over the club by displaying their logo in our ground which should never ever happen. You never promote your rival in your ground. Someone said it earlier but if that happened in many places in Europe, the backlash would have been immense. Lawrie was given the chance to promote his club on what was our night and that annoys me. If the shoe was on the other foot, there would be absolutely no way Lawrie would allow us to unveil a CCM logo banner in the scumdome.
 

style_cafe

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What can you say ... Matty words fail me ..

Our 3 little mid guys are awesome and with a half decent striker we will go a long way ... but with Matty & Murray we will struggle to score...

An observation is when we got in front we started to fall back in defence and allow them to run ... we stopped closing down from about the 70 minute mark...

Keeper looks good, backs played well... Clisby gives away a lot of ball ..

IMO its simple make Kim captain ... drop Matty and if in doubt bring on the academy striker to replace Matty ..


The problem with Kim being captain is that he`s not going to be on the park much.
I hope i`m wrong but Kim looks like he`ll be injured every second week...:popcorn:
 

style_cafe

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Have it on good authority that @Shaun Mielekamp met with Lawrie & his 2iC 'Sack Whacker' - (Griffiths) about a week ago, to plan this bullshit stunt.

Can't honestly get my head around why a Mariners CEO would allow a Scum CEO to unfurl the 'mortal enemy's' logo/colours on a banner
... the size of a goddam Bay
.... in the top tier of your own fcuking Stadium
.... on what is SUPPOSED TO BE 'your night to shine' in an FFA Cup Semi-Final.

If Lawrie was the CEO of the Mariners and the CEO of Newcastle asked to do this exact same thing I have absolutely NO DOUBT what his response would have been:
a) "FCUK RIGHT OFF" ... or
b) "Yes, Yes you can do it !" ;)
...... (tips off Pete Prior, Eggy, Boycey & myself to 'handle' the little Squadrunts just as they're about to do it)

What an absolute embarrassment
:oops::oops::oops:

Probably did it to boost the crowd when we play the Jets.
It`ll be interesting if Shaun does the same thing at a Jets game before we play them
 

BrisRecky

I'm an idiot savant without the pesky savant bit
Umm, that ref last night wasn’t the drongo that Simon sprayed last year was he ?
 

style_cafe

Well-Known Member
I didn`t see the banner at the ground last night but FMD that`s so dumb to have anything to do with it.
To even approve of flag waving and a small tifo is infuriating.
This shit should be left to the fans not the CEO`s.
Promote the f**king game not piss off the die hard fans that support the club.
It just shows the lack of understanding that Shaun and Lawrie have for a derby game.

And yes,I spoke to Lawrie at Bay Rd before the game as I`ve known him for years,but that sort of shit and the
future retaliations with get people hurt.

Maybe Shaun should have a sit down with Matty Simon to discuss the dumb shit that they keep doing...:popcorn:
 

Ads

Well-Known Member
I think it’s only fair we invest in a big banner for the second round.

We get a big freeze frame picture of Griffiths touching the linesman’s balls!

‘Cheap shots & low blows is all they have’
‘Scoring with the wrong ball’
‘Only in Newcastle’
 

Ozhammer

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Hey guys

To simply answer this, yes last night Sydney FC, WSW and Jets were all at the match which is common practice as the clubs are all now working together as part of the new A-League structure.

Lawrie has told us he would "wave some flags and maybe a small banner" just before kick off to catch Fox's attention, fuel the Derby and also requested parking. Neither I or CCM staff had any idea of the size or scale of this and never was a bay pull over discussed or approved - I would never have approved a bay pull over of this scale. I have spoken to Lawrie this morning on the matter and we will follow up again to ensure there are appropriate boundaries for promoting the rivalry between the clubs.

Also whilst there was a marketing meeting the other week all conversation was about other ways to promote the Derby, not this. Again this is common practice and happens every year and also happens with the other Sydney Clubs. The main topic was how do we promote the reciprocal membership offer to drive membership and attendance.

Lawrie's intention was to get everyone talking about the Derby so no doubt this has worked and the first shot has been fired.

Oh Shaun, just when I think that our beloved club can’t be turned into any more of a laughing stock than it has already become due to the continued underfunding of the team, wooden spoons, inadequate coaches, the Bolt affair, the Millar situation etc etc, you go and allow something like last night to happen on your watch.

As if the loyal fans of this once proud club haven’t been made to suffer enough for the past five seasons, we now have our fiercest rivals schooling us at every opportunity, seemingly with the club’s tacit blessing. You can tout the marketing line and promoting the derby all you like but that’s just corporate bs from where I sit but then your are very adept at that particular skill set. The derby already had enough interest from us fans given the incompetence that allowed one of our best performing players from last season to be poached right from under the club’s noses and last night’s stunt only resulted in many fans feeling like the club really has lost its soul. Staj has recently been speaking a lot in the media about the playing group losing its ‘victim mentality’, so perhaps management might consider taking a leaf from that book? (here’s hoping anyway)

As a loyal fan not only do I now have to bear the shame of what happened along with every other one of us that support this club, I also had the ‘pleasure’ of spending a lot of money to enjoy watching the game from our so-called ‘Old Boys’ box. Given your apparent ambivalence to the whole thing, I am not sure you can imagine my ‘joy’ at having to watch the smug grin on the corpulent Scots gits’ face along with his W⚓️ In Chief on what was supposed to be CCM’s night of redemption but I mention it for full disclosure. I can however say that if the club had told me that those two ‘individuals’ would be there, I would have chosen to sit in the stands with real fans, who truly love our club, but ‘thanks’ anyway for allowing salt to be rubbed liberally into the open wound.

As much as the final result was painful to bear, the apparent quiet capitulation of our club to our fiercest rival last night saddened me far more.

I know that there are many on this forum that will carry on defending Lawrie for what he did for the club in the past but his disrespect to CCM since he became Chief Scummer shows how little he thinks of us and I can only hope that this latest instalment of soddomy will finally wake others up to what he is all about. I may have been disappointed when Arnie left and some of his comments when he was at SFC might have rankled but he clearly still loves this club and that’s the sort of relationship that should exist with Lawrie. He is clearly still very bitter at how he feels the club treated him and I am sure there are two sides to that story but anyone with true class wouldn’t sh*t on their former club end of.

So in closing, I would very much like to believe that you understand how much what was ‘allowed’ to happen last night hurt not only myself but a great many other fans, although you will perhaps excuse me for not holding my breath. As our CEO, I do not believe it unreasonable to expect you to defend and fight for the honour of our club, however, it is clear to many that you now have a lot of ground to make up in that regard. Not just for last night but numerous other reasons as well.

Just so I don’t get labelled as ‘just another keyboard warrior’ I am happy to have a face to face discussion with you about the issues I raise and you already know how to contact me.
 

ryan

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If you want to promote the derby do it with a Central Coast Mariners banner. The game last night had nothing to do with Newcastle. I've lost some respect for Lawrie after that stunt and Joel Griffiths is still as scummy as he was as a player. Shaun should not have given permission to either of them for any of it
 

ryan

Well-Known Member
As for the game it was a very good performance and i feel reasonably confident that we won't be as bad as we have been these last few years. I would either add a starting striker to the squad or play Murray up front. I think the second yellow was harsh but Matty got himself in that situation by reacting to the niggle he got. A captain needs to raise themselves above that and lead and i'm not sure we've seen evidence of Matty doing that. I saw real leadership qualities during and post- match last night from Ziggy Gordon and if i were coach he would have the armband
 

Capn Gus Bloodbeard

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Hey guys

To simply answer this, yes last night Sydney FC, WSW and Jets were all at the match which is common practice as the clubs are all now working together as part of the new A-League structure.

Lawrie has told us he would "wave some flags and maybe a small banner" just before kick off to catch Fox's attention, fuel the Derby and also requested parking. Neither I or CCM staff had any idea of the size or scale of this and never was a bay pull over discussed or approved - I would never have approved a bay pull over of this scale. I have spoken to Lawrie this morning on the matter and we will follow up again to ensure there are appropriate boundaries for promoting the rivalry between the clubs.

Also whilst there was a marketing meeting the other week all conversation was about other ways to promote the Derby, not this. Again this is common practice and happens every year and also happens with the other Sydney Clubs. The main topic was how do we promote the reciprocal membership offer to drive membership and attendance.

Lawrie's intention was to get everyone talking about the Derby so no doubt this has worked and the first shot has been fired.

Not good enough. You honestly couldn't have gotten this more wrong.
Promoting the rivalry for the derby DOES NOT mean the rivals get to come in and wave banners. I can't for the life of me imagine why you thought even small flags/banners were appropriate.
Promote the rivalry at the game? Then do something to promote it. Put together a promo video for the big screen or something.
That wasn't US promoting it - that was the Jets promoting THEIR CLUB.
Some people are pissed at Lawrie - I'm not. His job is to make his club look good and completely embarrass his rivals.
Your job is to protect the image of this club.
Lawrie did his job.
You didn't.

The fact that this happened with your collusion is astounding. Stating you didn't intend something so big isn't a defence - NOTHING should have been permitted. But the fact that Lawrie was able to expertly troll you is just embarrassing and is on you, not Lawrie.

But Lawrie has embarrassed this club before. We had the whole Millar incident (and I don't recall ever hearing if the club reviewed their processes to ensure the 'dead email' debacle can never happen again). He just apologises, claims he did the right thing and moves on.

I'm all for maintaining a relationship, but lets not pretend he won't shit all over this club to protect his own. I seriously hope you've realised that now.

The bay pullover didn't need to be approved - you left the door wide open for it; all Lawrie did was walk in the door.
Not even that - he simply had to drive in!!

And while you may not have approved it, you didn't put anything in place to explicitly ban it.

But what still concerns me about this response from yours is your utterly abysmal final line where you seem to claim it was some sort of victory because 'people are talking about the derby'. No, nobody is.

I mean, do you have any sense on here of anybody talking about the derby?
All anybody is talking about is how badly we were embarrassed.

You absolutely DO NOT get to gloss over that with some throwaway comment pretending it's for the overall good.

That comment just suggests that you haven't understood just how serious we are about what a debacle and utter embarrassment this was, and how furious a lot of us are about it.

The slogan for this season is 'for the badge'.

That means pride. Pride in the club, pride in the club colours, what it stands for. In the history, in the people, in Fortress Gosford.

Instead, you whored out the badge to our worst rivals who have become experts at embarrassing us.

You didn't just undermine the club - you undermined the season's philosophy in the most crucial year this club has ever faced.

That's why NONE of it should have been allowed. Our club identity needs to be jealously guarded. If the club itself, and the CEO, are showing so little pride in the badge that they're happy for our arch rivals to promote their own club at a critical game in our stadium that has nothing to do with them, then why the heck should any of the players or fans have pride in the badge?

There should be nothing more precious than the club's image right now. Even what you say you intended the display to be undermines the club and everything we're trying to achieve this season. The fact that you wanted any of it to happen is just......completely astounding.

And for the record, nobody really cares that they attended, along with the other clubs. Keeping relationships between the NSW clubs is great. You seem to have used that as some sort of justification in your post as well. Frankly, your reply so far here seems to have missed what the issue is.
 

Forum Phoenix

Well-Known Member
Lawrie’s a highly skilled salesman who has mastered the affable lovely bloke routine.

He’s obviously come at Shaun all Matesy and pitched him a tasty little marketing sandwich. Shaun admittedly should have had the good sense to open his rivals offering and thereby see the giant turd hidden inside and not just take a great big good natured bite. But he got played.

An error of judgement from someone who operates on good faith and good will is my reading of it, and I don’t see that as a hanging offence.
 

turbo

Well-Known Member
An error of judgement from someone who operates on good faith and good will is my reading of it, and I don’t see that as a hanging offence.
Agree, let’s see what we come up with in response as well. What’s done is done, whether the club responds with a whimper or a roar will be the bigger indication of whether we’re just the butt of the joke now.
 

Coast Football Ramble

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FWIW Lawrie still loves this club and attends every home game he can.

He didn't just come on Wednesday night to promote the Jets.

He does his job well, respects the fans of both clubs and I invited him to Bay Rd because I know how much he loves our club and wants to see it do well.

Both clubs are trying to bring back the agro the derby used to have and quite frankly needs for it to be successful. Storm in a tea cup.
 
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